http://www.pointmancebu.com/filipina_scammers_in_cebu.htm
Here is the new Pointman Cebu Rogue’s Gallery, our our very own Scam Artists Central. These are girls, without a doubt, who have proven themselves to be scam artists, by meeting up with a possible (and genuine) mate online, and then kindly separating these unsuspecting, and sometimes a bit naive folks from their money.
The reason we have listed these girls here, rather than on the “Cases” page, is due to the fact that we have obtained large amounts of additional proof from various different government agencies (and other reliable sources), in order to prove true intent to scam our clients, on their part. These are more “professional” scammers, than the typical cases we have conducted, and have placed on our cases page.
Additionally, these scam artists are helping to destroy the faith others have in people throughout the world. When you meet someone online, and you are a genuine person in your heart, it is a horrible thing to be used by the person on the other end of your internet connection. You feel in your heart, they are the “one” for you. However, the only “one” in their minds, are the “one-hundreds” they can steal from you.
And how much did they scam?
http://www.pointmancebu.com/filipina_scammers_in_cebu.htm
PMC Case Date: 12/12/2007
Amount lost: Approximately $8,000 USD, plus
Name: Jackelyn Cainday
DOB: 11/9/1977 – Not confirmed
and
PMC Case Date: 08/30/2004
Amount lost: Approximately $8,000 – $10,000 USD
Name: Jelly Mae Sumagang
DOB: 05/20/1966
and
PMC Case Date: 10/11/2004
Amount lost: Approximately $5,000 USD
Name: Jovenyl Entienza Mangyao
DOB: May 30, 1984
A lot of Filipina scammers don’t need fancy computer skills to spam foreigners, all they need really is to chat with them and concoct of some fake sob story.
http://www.pointmancebu.com/filipina_scammers_in_cebu.htm
I gave her money before i met her, she told me how she did not eat very good food, so I wanted her and her son to eat better. Then her “bad luck” started, I will try and list the problems she had.
Her son got a kidney infection. Hospital stay and medication. She got dengue fever. hospital stay and medication. Because she was sick and in the hospital she fell behind on rent, 2500php for the room.
By this time I was a walking ATM machine with bi weekly withdraws.
My visit was from October 5 to 14, it was after that she would have an emergency every week. Her veggie stand was broke into and they stole all her capital. Of course I’ll help you, you love me.
<Her son> needs English lessons @ 4000php a month (full time wage for part time teaching). She got evicted from her room, so i agreed to rent her a house for 5000php a month. I had to furnish the house, dining table chairs, couch, TV, queen bed, air-con for bedroom refrigerator. I think i gave her over $1000 just for this.
Overnight trip to CDO to get her birth certificate. Lies I am sure. While in CDO at her aunts house, the mp3 player I got for her is stolen. <Her son> gets bit by a dog. Rabies shots that cost way too much. 3, then 4 of them.
Her Lolo is sick and in hospital, he can pay all but 8000php of his bill, lolo will pay me back in January when he sells a lot in town.
Her trip to Cebu is where she got robbed.
It is really such a pity when Filipinas resort to such things. To think, sometimes the amount they ask is practically loose change from a foreigner. If I were a foreigner or even a Filipino living abroad, I really wouldn’t mind helping out a poor Filipina who keeps me company over the webcam regularly to relieve me from my problems and stress. And no, I will not ask sex from her.
My girlfriend has an internet cafe. Her top customers are:
a. Kids who play network games in between classes and after school; and
b. Filipinas, usually young to late 30s, who like to webcam. If they aren’t mothers talking to their spouses abroad, they are women try to snag foreigners.
If I’m not mistaken, at least 2 people have already found the “love of their life” online.
Many of these women have a healthy cashflow from these foreigners. 100 – 300 USD goes a long way back home.
hi may i see the picture of your girlfriend.. did she scam y
you too .. i hop to get you reply
Yeah, they’re everywhere.
that’s unfortunate. one really must be wary, especially online. then again, let me just add that scammers are everywhere, in the philippines, as well as probably every other country out there.
Well, this is what it amounts to: these same types of young Asian gals in their 20′s don’t want to date older guys in America. I know that from reading the ‘love wanted’ ads LOL Anyway, many of them probably think older guys are only for money. Would most guys give a lot of money to a women they were dating in their own areas? I doubt it. Why? It’s our money. Not theirs. If a guy has to give a gal money to ensure that she will be his gal, then she’s not really that interested in him in the first place. At least not for the right reasons.
I wanted to add that I don’t consider a gal to be my girlfriend unless there is some closeness and affection which requires that we are together as a couple. I’m referring to holding hands, hugging and kissing. If she’s not interested in it, then I’m honest enough with myself to realize she’s probably not that attracted to me. Being honest with oneself is a good way to avoid the problems that would increase over time in a bad relationship.
The first rule for the internet is to never send money to somebody you only know on the internet.
These filipina ‘scam/beggars’ are abundant on the internet.
You will run into many apologists for them…
‘they are starving’
‘they can’t find a job’
‘the country is corrupt’
etc.
A majority of ladies do this because it is easy to do, and it offers a higher income possible than a poorly paying local job, if they can find one.
Common reasons they need money?
School, medical expenses, burial expenses for relatives, travel to another city for exams, job hunting, or to visit relatives, food, rent, and the ever favorite ‘if I had a PC at home I could chat with you ALL the time and I had a cam you could see me naked!’
Don’t send money!
The sucessful pinay scam/beggar has several men on the hook, sending monthly support money, each in an amount far higher than needed for the local economy.
One more thing, some of these ladies are married, some are LADYBOYS, and some are porn cam girls on a break, and trying to create extra income.
Hey is there a way to find out if you got a hooker or scammer? I have a friend that is hooking up with a gal and he is so naive. He sends her money and goodies and they invite me to chat so i know alot about her. How can i find out. She just aint right and he is gaga. She told him that her boss husband is a lawyer and he could do all the paper work but he had to send his birth certificate. i didnt know until after the fact. Please feed me some information to help my friend. He is a semi wealthy guy.
thanks a bunch!
I don’t think he should give his birth certificate, if she is a scammer, she might be able to make some identification papers with your friends identity from those. You said that her boss husband is a lawyer? What is he courting her for, if he knows she’s married?
Is the woman your suspecting a filipina? If she is, i guess the best person to contact would be the person who made I quoted from.
http://www.pointmancebu.com/contact_pointman_cebu.htm
Unfortunately I also learned the hard way about filipina scammers. But in my case I met her “Kaye” locally.
Although she was highly educated in the Phils and was here on a two year work visa, her old ways did not stop when she landed at YVR.
She was and still is the epitome of what we all dread when trying to avoid these woman.
And even more sad….her group of several friends here in Vancouver all do the same.
Personally, I was not out a lot of money, but the emotional impact was far worse to me and my family.
Did or does she care about the several men she is intimate with? No. The money and electronics she sends home to mom and dad supercedes and feeling of regret or shame.
Would I trust another “filipina”? I don’t know, and I really hate myself for the feeling of lumping them all in the same category now.
dont trust any of them Go there for a holiday & meet beautiful girls, its so easy no matter what you look like. Take them to the hotel & have sex with them then dont contact them again. That way you wont get hurt or fleeced. Filipina women are cheap & sexy but not to be trusted. They will give you great sex, but make sure you get the sex before you pay them or they will have your money & you probably wont get your sex.
You’re an asshole for saying that. Fuck your opinions. You can’t blame the whole nation of the Philippines for your stupidity. And Pinays are not cheap. They are the best people I have ever met.
I agree with your reply! if there are people on here that only want to “Holiday and Have Sex!” then I hope you get scammed you deserve it! and you also give the other foreigners like me a bad name. I and many like me got scammed because we let our heart and kindness make the choices for us we want to believe and trust but a “FEW” bad apples out there take advantage of us. I have learned and everyone else will to especially those who learn from us and sites like this I wish I would have come across it earlier in my search for love but then I wouldn’t have met the one I am engaged to now but that’s another topic deeper thought lol
what was kaye second name
There is a great mix of both scammers and girls wanting to meet guys for real relationships.
It’s really not fair to mix all of us in the same category.
I worked on the cam sites, and gave service for every peso I earned.
But I know the internet cafes are full of girls, many who have Filipino boyfriends, but know they can earn money just chatting with guys.
Thank god that is just a small group of the girls in the internet cafes.
If you really want to meet a good Filipina, then the best way is to ask a Filipina that is here in the USA, already. We all have friends back home, and would be excited to help you meet someone nice.
Take care,
Leslie – The Hot Filipina
Hi,
Iam a filipina, i have a good job and is stable here in the Philippines and looking in the net for a white husband…why white and not local? because i have kids and i know that most western guys dont look at the past unlike local men. and most white guys are sweeter and gentleman. ive been in a dating site for a very long time, i chat to men there and i never, not even once, asked money from them..but having scammers around the net maybe the white guys are being cautious now and they think that all filipinas looking for a husband in the net are just after their money..
Hi, how are you? Can you email me a picture? My email is alwaysa_real1@yahoo.com.
of course you are just after his money, why else would you want to meet him. It makes no difference how old he is or what he looks like so it must be money. I live in the philippines & i know what you sluts are like
Hahaha….you make me smile peter of comment posted!.Thanks of the comment..its so touching and no doubt of it…haha!!
its simple as that,do not beleive easily of what the girl says to you about their family problems,cuz first,its nt ur obligation to support her or him.so dont send any money to them.
It’s so sad to hear about these stories. I do hope this won’t discourage foreigners from settling or even visiting the Philippines. Surely, these scammers give the Filipinas a bad name. But what comes around goes around. They won’t achieve anything by fooling other people. Hope I could help do something about this.
To all who have been scammed, it’s difficult but I suggest you don’t send any money to anyone you meet online. This is easier said than done. But I hope I can do something to stop this.
Thanks much.
i have american bf for 7 months i never asked him money so this coming july finally i can hug and kiss him for real! wish me luck guys!
man do i have a story for you. i met a girl on filipinaheart.com. my friend who served in the marines in subic bay before the base closure. she seemed really funny and sincere, i met her. her friends were nice the first visit. she told me her nanay gave her interntet money daily to find a nice man, she also said her nanay fed her three times a day. i seen their living conditions, so i helped them. in total a 4wheel drive muilti cab, refer, washer, dryer, and about 25 g’s, plus some. sold my home, left my job. in the end after i ran out of money nanay rallied the villiage, who made anti american remarks since day one, even from the church president, the villiage made death threats to me. the local bank metro bank sent me a pamphlet for a payment plan for a casket. i bought a parcel form nanay and built a new house there, in order for me to buy a plane ticket i needed to loan out on my house. my wife told me the deed was in the mail, it wasnt. its worse than this. the us. embassy in manilla called me a liar, and wouldnt help. come to find out nanay was making my wife sleep with others for groceries, even after all the help. no money no honey. good luck if you go there, learn for your self. p.s. the police hate you the same.
I believe all you say. i was also a victim but realised it after 152,000pesos.
well she just raked in another foreigner whom she said bought her a house even after my warnings to him via his email. If he is scammed then he deserves it.
also i read some where the legal age for sex is 12 for female. i seen what i thought to be a 13-14 year old gilr 8 months pregnant. my tatay told me brothers and sisters is a filipino culture. i have noticed my wife, and her sister having sex with their father. my wife came out of the bedroom pulling up her sweat pants, with her father still in the bedroom. to the applaud of nanay “mother” and several aunts. well, im glad they could lie to me, and take advantage of me the whole time i was there. why should the bother go out, and show his skills as being a decent man, and person to find his own mate, when nanay calls all the shots. sleep with your brother, all he has to do is ask mother, do it or she will be raped. three years worth living in a remote villiage will tell alot. they all speak english, main source of income. like getting a high school diploma learning english.
What country are you from?
I have spent many years in the Phills and have friends there who have lived there over 10 years with their wives. I know the country and the People and I can say without a doubt, that your story is colorfully flavored with copious amounts uf Bull Shit. The law is 18 years old or it is statutory rape, and I have never once seen a case of incest, I have filipino friends who are police officers and can tell you that they would take action against such a person immediately.
My suspicion is you have done something or several things to wear out your welcome.
you have to be careful about being alone in a room with any young girl as if they just make an allegation of rape without any proof you are put in jail with no bail. When you pay her off they will drop the charges. You have been warned. I suggest if you take youg girls back to your room for whatever purpose you secretly video with sound all that happens then you can be freed without paying.
all filipinas are whores. stay the hell away.
It’s Nice Post, keep posting and have a nice day… 09:12
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Hi guys,
I’m in trouble. I feel I’m a foolish man. I’ve helped my pinay gf with a lot of things ranging from her families problems to rebuilding her families house. I traveled to her home last March and met her whole family. I thought because i met her family and was introduced to the village i was pretty safe. After reading all of your posts I guess i’m not safe at all. I’ve had many clues but have brushed them aside giving my gf the benefit of the doubt. What a dope. Thousands of dollars later… I’m going to the philippines in November again to meet her. I’m hoping for a resolution to my misgivings and fears. One way or the other and i’ll have peace of mind.
hi, daniel. i’m wondering how the visit went. i’m kindda worried about you, lol.. and i’m worried about how you would look at us, Filipinas, after your visit. she might not be a scammer but i’m sure she is a pan handler..
I had a 4 year relationship with a filipina I met on line. I helped her out a LOT along the way, too. I did go there (from the U.S.) and met her for real. Had a great time, too. She was married before and needed an annulment. I helped with that but ended up being a scammer attorney. I forgave it. Later I helped her start a rental business. Then, I saw pictures of her at a resort dated the time she said she was moving to a new place. I called her on it. She made excuses. Finally, luckily I have other long-time friends near her and I had them pose as a renter. She did not respond to them like she was renting. I told her I know all these things and she got upset and disgusted. Yeah, I used thousands of dollars in total over 4 years. When I met her, she was very affectionate the entire time. I never felt used – also she never asked for expensive things like scammers often do. I think she is a professional pan-handler. Needless to say, I split from her but on friendly terms. NEVER will I send her another dime.
Hello Daniel,
A good way to tell if she is sincere is, how does she treat you? when you call does she answer right away? granted there will be some things that may prevent this. Also does she talk about a friend alot, but is vague as to whether it is a male or female friend? does she lie to you? scammers tend to be quite the liars, to the point where they contradict themselves.
I wish you the best. Another Daniel…lol
daniel my friend they will all lie to you collectively. Thats what they are like. Its your money they want. Whilst you are away she will be sleeping with her boyfriend or boyfriends & all the village will protect her. He will be introduced to you as a brother or a cousin or a family friend. They will all be laughing at you behind your back. Go there for a holiday but dont meet up with her just meet as many girls as you want, its easy & you can get as much sex as you want with no ties, but dont get conned as they will all try it. Dont trust pinoys as forget their religion they are a race of liars cheats & thieves
Even if your Filipina gf marries you for real, it doesn’t mean she’s any less of a gold digger. She’ll just need a permanent and legal provider of everything.
But most girls are gold diggers in different gradation anyway. Choose the one you can manage.
my mom is an expert when it comes to choosing dining tables, she is always after durability and style ;::
Some rules better always remind
Average monthly salary in Philippines is 4000 pesos/ month! It is good enough for living so PLEASE count,..90USD/ 65€!!
Date in Asia.com ,.many scammers will first built the trust and after few months,.attack. Burned houses,.ill relatives, schooling problems, so on,.. so on…
Honest devoted Filippina will never ask money any circumstances.
90% Filippinas in dating sites are looking for better life and providers,.10% are looking for love and romance.
Age won`t matter,..outlook neither as far western man got thick wallet and generous mind.
Many girls in dating web sites are already married or into deep relation. You are NOT onlyone.
i was in dateinasia and was looking for a true partner.i eventually found one, didn’t ask money and whether you believe it or not, i really loved this Australian man even if he’s a lot older than me. he’s 62, im 23, i never ever asked him money. but still, faithfulness was never a guarantee to make our relationship stay forever.i was innocent then, gave my all and trusted him.
why do you go for Filipinas who earn 4000 pesos? oh yeah, i get it. you find these girls sweet and really hot.
why not go for Filipinas who earn at least 5 times more than your 4000 pesos earner hot girls? oh yeah, i get it. they would not date you.
and why do you give money to your Filipina hot girls and their families? they are not your responsibility.. if they were decent, they would be working their asses off and not showing their assess and all to you..
and by the way, if you are 50+ big bellied white guy, don’t expect your 15 year old sweet innocent looking little tiny teeny brown girl to love you.. Filipino teenagers like Korean pop idols, not hairy big bellied white men.
and stop whining about being scammed. you are adults. you should have been mature enough to figure out what was going on.
ms.disgusted pinay you seem to be a scammer protector and defender. What the hell are you talking about? How many Filipinas are there on an average who earn 5 times the money than a white guy? And half of your silly disgusted country is poverty stricken and 90 % of all of them are scamsters. You live off others backs like parasites as you filipinas lazy people want easy money from foreigners. All ya foreigners should stop coming to philippines and then your country’s economy will crash as your economy depends on tourism the most.Then you will go back to stone age.
Great point disgustedpinay. Just to add to that, other Filipinas earn less than PhP4K monthly like the yayas or the maids. I feel for those who think that they were scammed, it is sad but our fellow Filipinas have their own economic reasons for doing so. And I hope that foreigners who are looking for Filipina girlfriends or just anybody who would like to go to dating sites are old enough to understand what they’re getting into. And it would definitely help if you all know your REAL reasons or intentions for joining these sites. GOOD LUCK to all in finding your true love and BEST WISHES to those who have found theirs:)
This also is not always true. The big earners tend to be in the Metropolis areas, they have more of a western atittude than that of the Provincial girls. I have seen here in Canada Many filipinas who have married older men and come to canada and had a very good marrage.
I have also seen many who have moved here from the Phils and have married much older men here, even though they had good jobs and citizenship. My own wife is much younger than me, but her ex-b/f is a PNP Officer who is a couple years older than me, but sadly was not a faithful man.
Many women in more traditional areas of countries and the world feel that there is a great advantage to marrying an older man. The website filipino cupid has been mentioned here often, I have even seen younger filipino/American women, some born in the US that seek older men. A lot has to do with the way they are raised.
My own sister, a white girl, married at 26, a 53 year old man, she made much more money than his public service job gave him, but she fell in love with him because of the way she felt truly loved, appreciated and treated well by him.
i dont know what kind of work those people you mention who are having an average salarry of 4000 pesos/month. when I started working i was earning 8,000 and that is the startig sallary in the company where I work. I was undergraduate so I guess thats the reason too, after graduation I transfer to another company and the starting is 12,000. 8,000 – was back in 2004 12,000 had it 2006, I heard these days just like my sister who just started working her starting sallary is 16,000. so if starting sallary is that amount how can it be that the average is 4000/month….(sorry but I just dont know where did the 4000/month came from.. or maybe these are the sammers information that they feed foreign people… well I dont know I am just a bit confused
The lowest is 8,000 (less tax would make it 7,700). the minimum wage for the province is 320 pesos per day how much more in the city. (city wage are higher)
not unless the stablishment, company they are working is not following the rules then maybe you could be right.
Your figures are very interesting but you viewpoint is undecerning. These wages can be made in Manila, however the cost of living in manila is also much higher than the province. Not to mention you were educated, most cannot afford to be educated. Many come from large families who live in Bamboo shacks with dirt floors and many mouths to feed.
Most of my inlaws work for a very large American company on a banana plantation, my father inlaw has worked there for 25 years, and they only make
5000 a month. He did his very best to raise his 3 step sons and 7 children. (thank the Catholic church for that). I look at the way he works so hard at his age, and has never asked for a penny from me, to me he is a hero.
Never judge a person or people unless you have walked a mile in their shoes.
most filipinas depend on ofw’s to send them money or foreign boyfriends. The other big earners arnt actually big earners they are people cheating the system , the corrupt officials. The average person has very little money & struggles every day. If you are a foreigner i say take advantage of these beautiful young girls with sex. They will do everything but you must pay them. Dont expect them to be faithful, they will say they are but filipinas lie so easily, but they sound very genuine people.
hi there
does anyone know if a man wants to marry a fil girl, is visiting them a mandatory requirement? Are there any exceptions? a friend of mine has been supporting (like a queen) a fil scammer and he says he is NEVER going over there. He has gout bad and will not go to a third world country.I have heard that it is mandatory. He gives her about 800 a month if you add it for 2 1/2 years. he knows she may never come and that she could be scamming him. he dont care. he has no heirs and enjoys her company and helping her. she has her hand out 24/7.
she makes he feel young, desired, and needed.. you can’t blame him. he’s is lonely and she is starving.
Filipina bashing!! I wonder why a foreigner like u guys choose a pick up girl instead of a decent woman.. I dont believed to a foreigner now a days i known a foreigner who do a barhopping and choose a pick up girls instead to me lol im only 21 I wondering why i don’t still have a bf despite the fact that im pretty, sexy educated yes im finished my bachelor degree in college i already have a licensed and i work in a medical field im not ugly. I join few site of dating but i realized i don’t get anything to those site.except to a cheaters and a liar men. My ideal guy before is a foreigner becaused i think they are nice guy but it change a lot when i know the reality here’s the fact! They did a filipina bashing once they get hurt they dont blme theselves they blame all filipina 2nd. They always choose a pick up girl in cebu, angeles, subic.etc They always do a bar hopping.. Instead to find a nice girl.. They dont realized that those picky girl love only their money.. They dont need to do those things they only get std.. They just ruin their life to the wrong purpose. Hope all foreigner know how to use their time to the right one please dont choose a pick up girls, cheap and bar girls!
ms.rose. i totally am in agreement with you that most of the foreigners are characterless cheap guys who come there to find girls for their pleasure and as they feel filipinas are easy to get.But i can also tell you filipinas also are equally desperate for easy money too and play and pretend with these foreigners by posing as really true honest girlfriends and later scam them and i’m sure you are not so naive that you don’t know that these filipinas behaviour.You know ms.rose i feel this is a classic case of demand and supply as how you study in economics. filipinas need easy money and white guys need their cheap filipina sex dolls for their pleasure so who is to blame? I think both of them. Sorry to say but you have to admit that filipinas are all looking for easy money and there might be one in a million who might be honest filipina. I always wondered why filipinas always dated white guys and want to marry them and not a local filipino? do u have an answer? Well, let me tell you the answer is pretty clear the reality is many filipino on an average don’t get much income and many are also jobless and some are also lazy dependent on their families to feed them while they relax at home.That is the reality. So i think you should be fair in your perception on foreigners and also accept that your country is fast becoming notorious for scams by filipinas.I urge all filipinas to get a life and stop living shamlessly on foreigners back by scamming them and i also urge all the cheap characterless white guys and arabic guys and the japanese guys to introspect your innerself and have some self respect guys.stop looking for cheap sex and pleasures in the philippines. and if u r really that desperate for sex then go find girls in your own country and not look for filipinas as cheap sex tourist spot in the Philippines.
i dont think saying that all filipinas are looking for easy money. I can prove that not all of us are like that. I am educated in a good school and I am working almost 12 hours a day I earn my own bread.
and my reason why I am looking for a western guy for possible (sorry should be was) relationship is because I am a single mom and locally most man is not open to the idea of marrying a single mom. If only I have a choice I would go date a local guy but that is so hard for me (though right now I am still hoping to have my luck)
At least a balanced and honest response from my experience, too.
Hi Rose , Im genuine guy , I first joined a Dating web site, thinking ah well this will be a good way to meet a nice lady and the reason why is ‘ I will not never look at a Loud mouth Big Bum Western woman again” Because they are so much into ‘Look At me ” So i joined one ok and i will admit ok i personally like philli woman ok, But all men I have been scammed once money just helping a person as i was genuine to help ” My trap” was me being stupid , But i will say ok i found a woman who can be on net most time of the days is a “SCAMMER ” ok if you work how you have time for net? or chat? if working?? well besides that this is my Observations of dating chatrooms ok , the one woman who flirts may not be a scammer but edging there bets for mens interests , And i found when you research alot of Pinai woman in America who are not with there husband? comes down to they did get more than he was willing to give? and any way is a view ok , and men who sell up and move there as Xpats seem to get the last true pinai complex woman , which is the true pinai lady she may get jealous and loving at the same time , its the real woman . I personally found Ok chat rooms have woman who are so false? Example than the Woman in a chat room all day hoping for a dumb arse foreign man to come meet them in pinai? which is another trap to i suggest if yyou go to meet a lady always have a escape plan ok as she will to and dont freely buy things as when you do this to a phinai woman you show your hand to quickly . And for guys who dont no a chatroom this is best way i found .
Go to room say little at first and watch the ones who make drama and talk apolute rubish and say of money or i need a Fafa ? watch ok and look at ones who say little as i found they are in the same boat working out the genuine ones to the ones who just go to pass time and use you up for chat , best to watch and learn and see the games woman do and there woman” Friends group is a good indication on them” as they will be crafty and yous the Sister Hood to fool You too so best to find woman who is not affilated to woman sis groups ok as You have 50% beter chance .
Sorry to say ok but there are some bad net woman and guys to so as i did work the system and watc to find a genuine person my method maybe not ok , but im engaged to a pinai ” Miss Average” she tells me she not good looking but to me WAAAA she is to me and she works in hong kong and is not false and works to keep her family ok shes never asked me for money as she believes she can make her own way and its disrespectful to her to ask when she doesnt need help when we holiday she will pay her own way there and bills i truly happy but to find her was i may say a very hard daunting task because as i have just indicated above Love is hard , but worth finding.
Hi Rose,
I have lived in the Filipines for 4 years. I am an Australian male. You ask why dont these foreigners go and look for other girls other than bar girls ? Where do you suggest we find normal women? If a foreigner approaches a woman and chats her up she will only pretend to like him. Normal women dont like to be seen walking down the street with a foreigner because the taboo in the Philippines will label her a prostitute. If he manages to get past that problem and she is still with him then some family member will try and tell her how she should manipulate the foreigner for financial gain. Foreigners if you dont know are seen by Filipinos to be used and abused. If Filipino attitudes changed you would see more normal type of relationships. You are in the extreme minority and thats only because you have had a taste of Foreigners and learned something. The rest of the Filipino society think foreigners are stupid, over sexed walking cash machines and even your laws support that. Foreigners end up in the bars and with prostitutes because the normal women all have a negative view of foreigners. In fact its so negative that we are ignored. I have stood at counters in shops and refused to be served. Filipinas even avoid eye contact with me in fear that I may chat them up and someone may see them with me. You are all pathetic and ignorant. Now we are Filipina bashers. Try living as a foreigner here for 4 years. Its only the bad women and women with bad agendas that seek foreigners. OK there are a few that are so innocent and normal such as yourself but you are very very rare.
Hello Rose,
I am a foriegner married to a lovely pinay lady. We are not all liars and cheaters, just keep your faith and a good man will happen by one day. But always remember that these guys that go bar hopping looking for pick up girls, are really not worth your effort anyways.
If they put a price on a womans body for self gratification, then they are bad men anyways, if they come on sites and bitch that these girls ripped them off, well they used her body like buying meat, showing no respect or care for as to why some of these girls have even resorted to that life. If they get ripped off, good for them, they deserve it because they get used right back the way they are using these girls.
Remember a good man would never even look at a filthy woman like that, you are obviously a good and well moraled young lady, keep faith and one day a good and decent man will come your way. And as far as money goes, My wife was very poor, but never once asked me for anything. However a good man cannot stand by and see the ones he loves live in poverty. I have since bought 3 motorcycles for the family, built them a mini market that is doing very well and a lovely new home. Why, because I love her and her family so much, How could I not help out a family that has become mine?
daniel see what happens if your money runs out. You are a fool, ive been married to a college professor for 9 years & she does nothing but mentally abuse me, soon she will get her come uppance. Im in the planning process right now, in the meantime i will have sex with as many of these young sluts who allow me & believe me there are so many off them. They will pretend to love you for a paltry 500p per week, see them once a week use them & they will do everything. i dont respect filipinas as they are all lying thieving scum.
Hi Rose, I was wondering if you could help me out. It s concerning a girl from a dating site , i ‘d love your feedback . if you can help, please let me know here: nomad11178@hotmail.com. thank you!
Hi to all,
I’m a Filipino and I never scammed anyone. In fact, I was the one scammed by a Nigerian who posed as an American army guy. He got money from me and I was really angry and felt stupid for my naivete. I had read stories and articles on this topic but I never learned from them. I was too ‘lovestruck’ to this guy. People can blame me for my stupidity. I admit it. I almost gave up my faith in humanity at that time.
My heart goes to all the people around the world who had been scammed. Who could blame us? We just wanted to find someone to love and cherish and be loved and cherished in return. I am now back on my feet. I did not give up on humanity because I know there are still good and honest people out there online who wanted to meet good and honest people too.
It really pays to use your brain not only your heart when meeting people online.
Cheers
Thanks a lot for this post. Its good medecine to read i was not the only one.
I have been scammed as well and honestly said i made it quite easy for her to scam me. So both sides are to be blamed. Me leaving the door wide open, her for taking the occassion. Fortunately i found her youtube channel registered under another name where she was posting her romantic in-love movies with her filipino boyfriend (published from the computer i bought for her). It took me some time and power to admit that i was the victim of my fantasy.
At the end i dont regret so much the loose of money but the waste of time i could have invested in much better projects.
Still hoping for a good heart out there.
hi heinz….probably its really important for two people to be together ..distance is a problem with online love…TRUST AND RESPECT ARE VERY IMPORTANT….i had my sad experience and i dont wanna be there again.
hi clarenze, yes this is true. She was still contacting me aftewards but it is hard to find confidence in somebody far away because you never know if it is true what she is saying.
When I met her I really was believing what she told me about her and her family. And many details were true. But by occasion I found out what she didn’t tell me and this was quite irritating.
But it is a good lesson for life as well.
i believe one has be very vigilant and careful enough about online dating…but im possitive that each and everyone had special someone reserved..hehehe..for now, im just keeping my fingers crossed ( and my legs crossed)…now and forever..lol.
sometimes when we hurry love it falls into the ravine, that it will just give us so much pain…….so better safe by just waiting…but also praying for it to come at the right time and at the right place.
HI HEINZ…i have my own story below..just subscribed right now….and im coping up still with the loss..but anyway, real “love will come someday” as the songs goes…lol
Yes I’m singing this song everyday under the shower hehehe
hahahaha..that song is one of my favorite from David Sunborn…lol
now i can sing it back too…in the shower..or in the beachline im going to be this easter holiday to heal my broken heart…lol..im not only going to sing it…im going to shout it…lol
now you make me go to you tube and listen to the song…lol…nice talking with you here..
Happy easter time and keep on laughing and shouting finger crossed hehe
…that i will..
and if i saw him there, i will light a fire under his butt…lol
happy easter.
jca you are a liar as no filipina has money. None of you would send a single centavo to anyone so go away & stop lying. This is exactly what pinoys are like. They are a race of liars & thieves & they all know it. They dont trrust each other as they know the others will steal from them as they also would steal.
Daniel.
WOW what an incredibly educated and thouroughly researched comment made on intimate knowledge of this person and in wisdom and experience. You come on this site with a user name like, it’s me?? what a coward, then you insult and make accusations calling people fools and liars? So I guess I can assume that you have met all 96 million people living in the philippines and the others spread out throughout the world working hard to support thier families?
It seems to me that you are simply a uneducated, narrow minded racist, so filled with hate that you cannot even see how ridiculous you make yourself look. If I had to guess, I would think you are probably one of the many fools who fell for a bar girl or cam girl…..HMMMM she will sell her body for money but I can trust her….DUHHHHH, there is no such thing as a hooker with a heart of gold, just after your gold. There are millions of unscrupulous people all over the world from every nation. If you go looking for your sweetheart on crack alley, metropolis USA, how smart does that make you? then to blanket an entire nation as having the same moral fibre??? Pretty Racist and pathetic.
Guy’s like you come through a site without an identity insulting and talking out the top of their hats like they know it all, making uneducated blanket statements are a dime a dozen. Racism is stemmed from ignorance, and you sir are a poster child for the ignorant…Bravo.
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It is hard to deny the beautiful nature of the asian woman.It is something which many men find lacking in western society and what is probably what attracts us the most. Why is it that we assume that it is only in the east which we find the scam occuring? In many ways it is so much the same here in the west. Women here want the same things..security…buying power, a nice home to raise a family, good food to eat….a good life. When you see the guy, whose character is less than ideal, with that great girl all because he has a super job and can drive the fancy truck. Is this any different from the girl in asia who basically desires the same? (i speak of women only because of the subject we are adressing) She will do what she has to do inorder to get along. I dont think its right on any level to be dishonest. We need to level the playing field. The problem goes on and on and the scammer continues to scam raking thousands from its victims….on both sides of the ocean but in a different way.
Carefull consideration should be used when embarking upon any relationship which is so long distant in nature.
Is it normal for a person to ask another for financial support so early on? Or, when you have never even met the Dad who needs the money to visit an eye specialist, and he lives 10,000miles away.
What I need info on , is the whole aspect of the asian who has a work visa and still continues the scam from within your own country. Is there anyone out there with information regarding this type of crime?……I’m all ears.
You are so narrow minded. How can you say American women and Filipina scammers are the same thing? Filipina scammers to it as a career. Western women get married the honest way.
Dont you mean western women marry a man and take him for all he has and then saddles him with years of alimony? there are in my experience many more self centered ruthless women in the western world than there is in the Philippines.
Distgustedpinay
You sound like a smart woman with a good head on your shoulders……Im just an ordiary, sensible guy working in the health care field…..Would you consider a chat sometime? It would be nice to learn more about your country.
I promise, I wont ask for wierd pictures or any such thing….but I will chat with you like a gentleman.
Sincerely, Will
I am 28 years old single with a good JOB earning twice the basic income of an ordinary pinay. I have my own house not that big but at least I own it. there are 3 girls in the family I am the eldest both of my younger sisters are nurses. Mom and dad are both working in the goverment not retiring anytime soon and they have phil health so I guess me and my sisters (all not married) wont worry about anything if they get sick. truth is my parents even refuse if we wanted to give money thats why we just send them things. I dont think I am ugly too, I can be ordinary looking woman but I am not ugly.
localy a woman who got a good job is already a good catch for the local man so in my case I dont think I’m going to have a problem with that BUT there is something that most local man wont accept… “a single mom”. I dont know but maybe its all about the culture which is for me a total BS.
one of my friend told me that westerners are not really so bias when judging a single mom, as they say they are open minded people. at first I was about skeptical to sign up in a dating site the way I see it before was a desperate move, but yes I guess I am desperate 28 turning 29 I think I have few years before my age pass the calendar. so I sign up in a site wrote detailed profile and for a month no one sent me a message (lol) then I begun to wonder what could me wrong in my profile so I went over other girsl profile and i was shocked because i saw some profile with totally nothing in it or sometimes just I’m sweet blah blah blah and they got a lot of comments. then I realize they posted pictures wearing almost nothing… so I guess thats the point well compared to my pictures almost covered like a nun and wearing my office uniform then I guess thats the reason but what can I do thats the only picture I have (not really but I think what is written on the profile is the first that people should read, I am wrong though) so I just let my profile be the way it is then one day someone message me and i was happy wow finally (hehe) but I was shocked with the message “hi babe I think your place is near my place care to meet”. I said I am sorry I cant meet you unless we at least become friends, then he replied the most dreadful message I have ever received in my whole life (except memo of course from my boss) “come on I know you are up for sex, all you single mom filipina are the same, all wanted sex and money”. I was really really so angry but there is one thing that I realize most man view filipina single mom (or just filipina) in a really really bad way and by reading all the comments here I think they have a basis just sad to say that there are some who are really looking for love who are being generalized just because of other peoples action.
and to end this all I just want to say that not all are scammers for sure there are scammers but then again they exist anywhere just that maybe filipina scammers get cought more often than the others. sigh!
BTW: I decided to remove my profile from that site and I never try dating sites again. maybe someone from the local will like me despite my past. if not I’ll just wait….
Jenny,
you sound nice enough, well spoken. If you see this and want to chat, let me know, I’m mid 40′s white guy in USA that stumbled upon this site while doing some reading to decide if I wanted to join one of the dating sites.
Hi Jenny
Isn’t it typical Filipinas always end up seeking a foreigner when in some sort of trouble. Either they need money, or getting to old, or as in your case have a child and Filipino men don’t want women with children. So the poor Foreigner picks up the tab everytime.. If a Filipino guy asked you for sex early on you wouldnt think twice because thats whats expected.
However, Foreigners need to earn their sex by showing total commitment first and satisfying your ambitions and proving their worth and accepting the baggage Filipino males created. Thank you for sharing that simple example. Its a double standard society.
i would tell any guy dont meet a pinoy with children. Their own men wont marry them they look on them as sluts as that is what they are. If you are so stupid not to use contraception then thats your fault. If its because of your religion then ask your church to financially help you. If you are a foreign man & your pinay girlfriend has a child she will want you to be an atm. Dont listen to their lies as they are very subtle & clever. They know how to do it. Listen to the stories on here how men have been scammed by pinay women, the men are telling the truth.
Jenny,
I have been doing a lot of research online, with regards to learning more about the Philippines and happened to do a “google search on scamming” and this one website popped up. I have never posted a comment to a chat website. Comment is probably not the right word, but more of a desire to respond to yours. Being a person that does not judge other people, I find it so unfair that being a single mom this is something like being ostracized in your culture. You seem to be a nice person. It was unfortunate that your one and only experience with a dating site should be like that. Yes, there are many scammers, gold diggers and from what I have read many men of low moral character as well. I looked at a couple of dating sites and found that there approximately 20,000 Philippo women on them. I chose a free one. I have been on it for a few months and it is difficult to discover what someone is really like, but not impossible with enough communication it becomes very easy to read between the lines and find the ones who are being deceptive. Personally I don’t initiate contact with women to try to look sexy and or shallow profiles, but look the profiles that have substance and many be truthful. I have been contacted by many women, but in my youth I have lived in a few and visited many places in the world (including Okinawa, Thailand, Viet Nam and the Phillippines and I’m not worried about being scammed but found it interesting reading by those who have. Anyway getting to the point of my writing this, perhaps you should give it another try and not judge everyone on dating sites by one bad apple.
Gentlemen- The best scammers in the world are American women and the system that supports them.
Between marriage (rings, wedding, etc) cost of support and then divorce- including loss of assets, alimony and child support- it costs six-figures to most guys in cost or losses by the time its all said and done.
yeah heard lots of that here in u.s that’s also the reason why my husband didn’t wanna marry american girls.
WOW, exactly my feelings on the matter, in the Filipino society, if your wife cheats she can be charged with adultery and face from 7 to 14 years in prison. And if they leave the relationship, the children belong to the husband.
Here, she can be a slut and sleep around all she likes, divorce you, and make you pay hundreds of thousands while giving you nothing but grief when you try to see your children. And guys have the nerve to say their society is screwed up…kinda the pot calling the kettle black hey?
Hi, first of all think about it is so right ! lol funny;)
im planing to open biz there, sense i have been to philipine 5 time i realy like it there, ppl are so nice and they happy even though they are poor they more happy then we are. they know life is not about having things but about being happy and family. the haters here i think yes if u over 50 and fat and is looking for a 20 years old girl you be desapointed you should look for a older pinay. and if u dont its because you probably bad too cuz u looking for a young girl that is 30 years old then you. so im glad those guys get cheated by those girl haha. for the rest i say pinay are great girls and very loving is no compareson with usa or europ woman. peace!
but anyway, iv been cheated many time on line by pinay but im still trying to find the right one and i did! ev met her in a cam girl site and we been just friends for fiew months and we fall in love and i ask her to stop working that i will send her help each month. yes she ask me for help before and i help her but that is because they realy poor ppl anyone would do the same. but anyway, its not becuz u send 50 buks here and there that its ging to ruin u right? but anyway now im suporting her and im going to meet her in november:) im 40 and not bad looking
Will good luck to you David,any way,not all filipinas are scammer,WE are the most sensitive,caring,sweet and loyal to our family,maybe the big problem you will get is we can’t stop helping our family,most father and mother,that’s how our culture is,but other country’s don’t understand that culture,we don’t send our older’s to the home of the agent,we want to be with them until they die,and we can’t eat good food while we know that our parent’s are starving,so that is some of the reason why they believe filipina are scammer’s.But please open your eyes guy,yes a lot of filipina are selfish but those kind of filipina,who used drugs,cigar,alcohol,and most I can’t deny it when simple filipina turn to be materialistic,you can observe their behavior when you meet them,be smart,…but I promise to you most of filipina don’t care size,age,and personality,as long as you treat them as a human,….
go for it david & in a few short months or years i bet you are singing a different tune. you seem to know everything so do it, i bet it all ends in tears, your tears
My advice to u old folks stay away from teenagers..you are not hollywood actor hot dude or local filipino celebrity..come to think of it..teenagers will not fall in love with u..they will fall in love with ur money…most foreigners are looking the cheap pinay, bar girls..then later on you old folks you shout out loud if ur cheap girl pinay screwed up..you end up crying when u run out of money..
BEWARE TO ALL THIS WOMAN THE MOST WANTED SCAMMER
ALL OVER INTERNET
WATCH OUT GUY DONT LET SCAMMER SCAM YOU.
1.LUCHIE RIBAGORDA
2.ELVIE JEANE CALIS
3.BREGETTE TUBALLA
4.CHRISTY CAPARAS
5.CHERYL POGAY
6.MARICAR DEBULOSAN
7.DIANNE ROSE HIPOLITO
8.KERUBIN CRUZ
9.KAREN PEREZ
10.ANGELIE PEREZ
11.CRISPIN SABIDOR
12.MAE CABALLERO
13.DEXTER AROA
14.LOURDES AQUINO
15.IMEE ATILANO
16.DAISY CAWAG
17.MICHELLE CORDOVA
18.MAI CASINTO
19.ROEM GRACE PENDON
Tonight i was just trying to check my fb account and decided to search about cebu scammers and find this site.by reading all the comments here, i now decided to share what i had just experience. Im 49,a single mom, never married and had a very good job to support my one child, that one day I had joined the Date in Asia , was just trying my luck to find. I had posted one of my best picture and a lots of interest was sent but i was pricky enough to choose who to reply and decided to met one guy,lets call him BB (BADBOY)..HEHEHE. age 67 while in his profile he is 59. We met ad spend the xmas and new year holidays with my family and he came back again by February to spend the Valentines together, but had agreed that i cant stay the whole 10 days with him since i am committed to my job as part of my responsibilties as part of the Mgt.When i left him, he decided to go online again and met another lady and we never had a real talk and drop me like a hot potatoe. On his next trip after 3 weeks, he drop by the house to leave some chocolates for the kid and never bother to contact me and refuse to answer my calls. One night we saw him in the disco house with the lady and i approach them in a very friendly manner and ask the girl where she work. As an HRD officer before, i know what to do to check her background.. Checking back on her profile in the site, its easier for me to locate her informations and found out that she was a married woman and had just left the husband house with the daughter and transfer to a rented room just to show to BB that she is really separated and the lady had been noted in the neighborhood meeting chatmates with the knowing of the husband..With my fear, i emailed and informed BB about it and he confronted the lady. BB told me had been invited twice to the rented house in the squatter area for dinner. It was quite scarry, because he could be trap by the husband drug addicts friends and he could be a victim of a set up hold up.
BB had informed me that he stop communicating with the lady and he had been grateful with the information i had given him. For now i had decided to back off from him , i thought a guy at 67 will be mature enough to behave the way he is expected to behave. The truth i had fallen in love with the guy, but as man, i expected somebody who will be witty enough not to pick up ladies along the sidewalks…i think BB was just playing around with Filipina gilrs….not a man worth loving for…by teh way BB is a german national.
FOR NOW I STILL BELIEVE IN GODS PLAN FOR ME.
by the way…the lady remain in the site…posting a new pic…
and BB had change his search age from 20 to 48….hehehe.with that, .i think a man at his age is just really looking for goodtime and i was lucky enough to have my last out loud laught on him being victimize by an scammer….im sure he will be left lonely and sad for the rest of his life by being bad..
I have a filipina girl friend and she is absolutly fantastic, I am 50 she is 24 and we have a great time together. She never asks for money but i do offer as life can be tough in the provinces as there is up to 80% unemployment. A simple rule is that if they are asking for more than $50 in a month you are being scammed. Also note that many filipino’s live day to day and have no idea on how to save or budget. If you give them $50 they will spend it, if you give them $1000 they will spend it and in many cases with no regard to tomorrow. Take note that in many cases it is not the girl doing the scamming, She will be, forced by her family. No one will tell you, not even distant relatives due to fear of retribution. I am so glad I found a decent one, there are plenty of really nice girls in the Philippines, just remember they have a very different value system than the western guy. Just be smart, put a limit of $50 per month and you cannot go wrong, if she dumps you becoz you will not hand over more then its not love, its you being the ATM. The best way to find out if she is being true is just tell her you are a simple guy with not much money, be careful that you do not show your wealth via photographs as this will attract the Gold diggers.
If she really likes you then she will not mind spending a small amount for SMS and web chat. If you have to initiate the contact then you are not really her item of interest. Now if every time she contacts you and asks for money and you as a love blinded fool give it to her then you are being scammed, especially after promising a western union payment she says she has to go..
I know the scams, but a lonely guy is easy game for a pretty young scammer. Yes it makes you feel good, but here is a reality check, hold a picture of yourself and her together…What do you see?
Hi, mr. peter, i just member in date in asia,4months ago,, i agree to your comment not all filipina is scammer like me im married,,bit now im separated already coz i cant take it her attitude, but now i found the man that i know he respect and love me you know what his race, he is bangladesh. Some of my friend say thier country is poor but for is not important i just want is i know that he love me. Coz money doesnt buy love so not all filipina look for money still have a filipina with dignity decent woman.
BEWARE TO ALL THIS WOMAN THE MOST WANTED SCAMMER
ALL OVER INTERNET
WATCH OUT GUY DONT LET SCAMMER SCAM YOU.
1.LUCHIE RIBAGORDA
2.ELVIE JEANE CALIS
3.BREGETTE TUBALLA
4.CHRISTY CAPARAS
5.CHERYL POGAY
6.MARICAR DEBULOSAN
7.DIANNE ROSE HIPOLITO
8.KERUBIN CRUZ
9.KAREN PEREZ
10.ANGELIE PEREZ
11.CRISPIN SABIDOR
12.MAE CABALLERO
13.DEXTER AROA
14.LOURDES AQUINO
15.IMEE ATILANO
16.DAISY CAWAG
17.MICHELLE CORDOVA
18.MAI CASINTO
19.ROEM GRACE PENDON
hi guys
i feel very sorry all about this defferent story and have bad experiences about pilipina… I have my own bad story too in my life about foriengers, and I am pilipina woman at age of 23, i saw this site because i was reading all about the scammer.. dont be doubt that pilipina woman are money after, just u are not
lucky to find someone right much for u.. i believe in all countries has like this
behavior, man or woman has money needs and do it by bad way .. I have been
hurted also with foriegn boyfriend I never thought him as a bank.. I work with my own foot to have responsibity for my family and never ask to my boyfriend for help.. i was with him 4years relationship but the sadness he was not faithful on me..and the next chance i tried to join the date in site.. and i meet man and i was very close to be inlove after 3 weeks keep contact by writing email, and again i was disapointed he is a BIG SCAMMER.. in this world this is part of experience in our life to learn and have lesson.. A good Man goes to Bad woman, Good woman goes to Bad Man,,
so sad! im willing to meet the right one which is match on me and really sencire for being partnership.. if u wanted to know about my story u could email me, kim_sweet25@yahoo.com
To all of the foreign guys that like my self have been scammed we must blame ourselves (I do) and our hearts. we can only be taken advantage of if we let it happen.
To all of the serious ladies looking for a honest Foreign man for marriage don’t give up we are out there
And to both remember do not let the betrayal of the past rule your choices of the future or you will never fully trust someone and without trust there will be no future.
Yes I still search for my future and I won’t let a bad experience stop me
hrtstpr@gmail.com
Top above has mentioned avarage salary/ month in Philippines,..well,.In Manila and other major big cities these might be lot higher than 100 USD/ month but i have been in Mindanao several midlle size cities and girls who works as a accounters, hotel and restaurant stuffs,.has normally salary 150-180 pesos per day,..so it is really only 100 USD/ month.
As a rule if there is more than a 20 year age difference between foreigner and filipina then the foreigner is being scammed and will be spat out when there is nothing left of him.
Filipinas that say ‘I dont care about age’ are liars and scammers. They know that older guys love younger women, that’s as old as humanity itself. These same girls are not interested in foreign guys their own age, why? because they are not as well off or on a pension.
I am an Australian and live in the Filipines. I am 42. I am good looking. However young Filipina women avoid me like the plague. They think I must have so many women they fear they may become another number, lol, which is totally not the case. I wish I was average looking, its a curse. They prefer an American old guy 65 plus. Why is this so?
The old guy is -
1- more likely to die sooner and leave his assets to her. He is more likely to stay faithful to her.
2- she will want to have a baby to him, because she will get his pension after he dies until her child is 18. American and Northern Europeans are the targets. Australians, French and UK are no good because their countries dont allow this.
3- If he is an American she doesnt even have to marry him if she has a baby to him, she can leave him and still claim a support pension for the baby until its 18 under the de facto laws. she can expect about 30,000 peso a month for 18 years. Not bad !!.
4- She can go to the USA with him, then dump him there and find a Filipino.
All scammers know this, they must all go to the same school, lol. So if you are a good looking youngish foreigner and you think you going to come to Filipines and hand pick a beauty, you probably will end up going to the local brothel instead, sorry but you wont find any women interested in you if you are good looking and under 50.
Also for those foreigners who think they going to find a beautiful Filipina, forget it. Any Filipina who is good looking is too scared to be seen with a Foreigner for fear of reprisal from Filipino males. Filipino males are territorial and jealous and don’t like the idea of foreigners coming into their country and stealing their beautiful women. If she is average to ugly its ok. I once was at a restoraunt with a beautiful girl once in Makati and there were 4 men standint there staring at her through the glass window the whole time we ate. I didnt know why at the time and she wouldnt tell me, but now I know. They were tormenting her as if to say ‘whats wrong with us’? She turned out to be a scammer by the way as well, lol.
All those beautiful pictures you see on the dating site profiles are all studio enhanced pictures. I doubt if any girl looks like that in real life and they are almost all scammers.
I love the new slogan for filipines tourism
WE DO IT BETTER !! hahaha you sure do especially at scamming.
hi macropor…sorry to hear that..really its an embarrasing situation wherein we Filipinas are known as scammers…and thats sad to hear..As i can see in most dating sites, i can see a lot of Filipinas young and old…and i can see for some that they are using their very attractive pictures.
one experience i encountered is when i met one guy from Date in asia and we somehow became acquainted and become lovers for a short period of time..to make the story short, i was quite serious thinking and hoping hat it was my long awaited relationship but it turned out the man was really a player and i think had been meeting Thai and Pinays..He met one lady here in cebu and it turned out to be a scammer..The lady was married and before the arrival of my friend she mange to transfer and rented a room together with her daughter to show that she is separated…and by chance meeting i caught them in the disco and i was able to ask the girl where she work and Bingo, the next day i investigate who she is and found the truth about her…and informed my friend about what i learned.
Its disgusting for these kind of women to do that…and another big surprise i learned about the guy, as an it expert…i found this guy seemed connected to several porno and dating websites..of which still im investigating, i doubt he is the one who make the dating website where i met him…..Im not an internet expert, but to my own understanding he really is…
Well, one had to be careful…we cant really avoid sometime when this bad people come into our lives…
I was thinking of going back to DATING SITES BUT ITS TOO SCARRY now this days to meet strangers who are not living a clean life..
HI,macropor , yes i throughly agree with yourself , Im a Aussie to , and i found ok when woman say age doesnt matter yes it doesnt? because they no time is on there side when the old guy dies quick they benefit from this so sacraficisng 10 years to make more than they could ever in reality.
I met a woman In Aus she was a 32 yrs Philiphino in Brisbane a ” Widower” i spoke to her thinking good age , nice lady,> any way finished but elder sister a Great Manuverer and Master scammer kept talking and i started to return fire by asking ? Cetain things to school me up ,
This is a ripper<> Best thing to be Careful Of all , I think as you are in Pinai , You have the Upper hand as U are there and can pick the one U like other than a Net guy with alot of choices yes but limited time to talk to 100s at a time , Hope your Ok macropor as Aus is now a sinking ship after JULIAS i have FOOLED u carbon tax Hits full swing ” Cost of living has risen in 2yrs 65% more and wages dont cover rates and hidden charges ” macropor ” I am with U as i think i will move there and open a business ” Any suggestions to Ok bussiness there with minimal red tape?
Hi macropor, i am a filipina and very faithful to my foreign boyfriend of 11 years. He was in his mid-30′s when i meet him. He cheated on me loads of times with different women and doesn’t treat me nice and he is not nice to my family either (in other word he is a racist asshole) but i choose to stay with him because i love him. We don’t have kids. I’d rather work as a nanny or as a maid than to ask and spend his money. I never asked him to supprt my family. Anyway, you already know the answer why filipinas doesn’t date you.. If you are a good looking Aussie, Filipina would think that you might be a playboy like most foreigners are and fyi: filipinas are jealous gals. We don’t want to be your number one, we want to be your only one. You said, once you were at the restaurant with a beautiful girl and 4 men are staring at her the whole time you ate. It’s probably because those guys are admiring your date? Filipinos likes to stare pretty women, it doesn’t matter if she’s alone or with date. They will let her know that she’s pretty by staring at her… You are probably have a very high expection for a women and looking for a celebrity beauty or you’re too good looking to even notice the girls around you… Peace!!!
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You are a classic example of the Filipina narrow mentality. Its no wonder your husband is cheating on you, hes probably had enough. Why are you putting me down, I was only telling the truth. No I am not up myself I was merely stating my experience. If I was a Filipino Male sitting at the restaurand with a beautiful Filipina woman and 4 guys were standing just the other side of us on the outside of the window do you think the Pinoy would put up with that? well first of all the 4 guys wouldnt dare do such a rude thing. Do you even know why those guys did that? They did it because they were jealous and angry at the Filipina who they see as being a prostitute because she was with a Foreigner. Dont you know the Filipine Taboo that all women with foreigners are prostitutes?
I have pride as well but Filipina pride seems to be a god given right for their poor miserable souls..
never send any money to people on the internet cause they will scam you. if it is possible try to meet in person and get to know her. by the way if she wants money when you meet her make her earn it. (love, sex or anything you want)
HOW I JUST WISH THAT PEOPLE WILL BE HONEST ENOUGH WITH THEIR INTENTION TO FIND THE REAL LOVE…which i believe a real love cannot be equate with money or luxury being offered..its best to have it with trust and respect..and being true and honest to each other.
well said clarenze. im wishing to have a good relationship too.
you are most welcome RIN…goodluck to your search..wishing you the best.
im not searching lol. im waiting… god’s will and in a prefect time. have a good day
hahahaha..still wishing you the best..”God said..Knock and you will be open”…so its never too late..we better knock on door twice…if it dont open..knock on all the windows…lol…me too..had tried my best to work on the relationship i had right now..but i think its not worth the sacrifice…really too hard to trust specially online affairs..
Dont wait..try your luck to look around too, but just be carefull.
sorry to say but i dont trust online affairs. so sad to hear that but try and try until u succeed… hehehe… im not worried about my future relationship, i think i had enough from past hence i have stone heart now… lol
true..safer to have the stone of heart…that way we’ll be more safer on the higher grounds…its more important to have a successful career rather than to have a relationship thats not worth the effort…
I am a filipina who just married last year, i met my husband at fb and we been started chitchatting for more than 6 months, he told me that he is not a rich white man. i don’t really care about that and im not expecting him to give me money, i work in the restaurant and had a part time job. everyday of my life since i meet him i can’t stand not seeing him through skype/fb video chat/ym/gmail even if i work graveyard and go home early in the morning before i rest to sleep we chit-chat. i never ask money from him because i know to myself that im not his obligation, until now that we’re married i even feel embarass asking when i want something. i dont know maybe im not that comfortable because i grew up independent and never ask anyone for money. there are some leech filipina out there that i know because they don’t wanna work hard and just rely on someone who they think who could give them what they need/wanted and it’s ashame that they are filipina.
the first time my husband came visit me to philippines i rent a house for both of us(because im just living with a room with my 3gal friends before he came) and it’s all my savings, i really love him and i told myself that if he is not interested on me after being together for 1 month in one apartment for his visit then it would be fine, i just accept that maybe he’s not the man for me. but im wrong,. because after that our love become more secured and we both cried when he have to go back to u.s to work. it’s true he is really not rich but for me?. as long as he showed and make me feel how important an how he love me then its not a big deal. he ask me to get married but scared that u.s gov wont grant us the paper that we need because his earnings every year is not much to the condition. i said if that happens and he still wanted to be with me together then he should stay with me in the philippines, because i dont really care going and living here in the u.s i actually miss philippines so much! but fortunately my papers were grant and we got married.a simple wedding right now we both are starting with our life together, im still waiting for my work permit so i could start to apply and work because im a workaholic and im dying staying in this house not doing anything. right now were still living in his granparents,helping his grandpa bec. he broke his neck last year, all i can do is to clean this big house,help excercise his grandpa,helping his aunt to their buss. and planting some veggies around their backyard because i can’t stand doing nothing and so lonely when he’s gone for work. well i know this is one of teh life im gonna be with because im so far from my country and not much friends since im still not started working, we both are talking about when we get old and everything is fine we will transfer to my country and live there untill the end of our lives..and that is sweet.
i’m glad u found love:)
Thanks for sharing. This makes me feel a better about my situation. I’m 25 and met a 22 year old filipina on a dating site and I’m planning to visit her in 2 months.
Reading all these comments has me scared. I know there are scammers, because I’ve met many on the dating site but was able to spot them quickly. I really don’t think this girl is a scammer. I’ve told her I am not rich (I’m not, but I have a good income – I come from a poor family) and she is okay with me not being rich and hasn’t asked me for any money. She has to communicate with me from a cafe, so she is paying to chat with me.
I have been on date in asia for a few months and chatted with many girls, I have only been asked for money a couple of times, most of the girls i chatted to are decent and polite and never ask for a thing. Granted there are alot of ladyboys, but there are also decent people on there
Just because they dont ask for money doesnt let them off the hook. 90% are there because of an agenda involving financial gain. They are getting the message now because there has been so much on the interent warning foreigners not to send money, so they know not to ask. Never let your guard down my friend. Only 10% are decent.
I’m a Pinay and i sincerely condemn those girls who scams unsuspecting guys.
The truth is most of the victim are old, unattractive , lonely guys looking for love.
I blame those guys for being stupid and not doing thier research and not using thier common sense.
If you are over 50 yrs old and looking for a 20 something, think again. You better save your money for your retirment. Give yourself a favour for not being stupid enough to think that a 20 something yr old girl will fall in love with you.
She maybe communicating with a dozen other men, so be careful. If she starts asking money after few chats, you know it’s time to delete her from your contacts.
Scammers are smart assed girls. They are so good at telling a sob stories, if you are not doing your research then you’ll be sorry. She will own you and your stupidity.
Two years ago i met a English guy, we become friends until he opesn up about his past relationship with a Filipina. He was around 50 that time, doing very well in his business. his ex gf is a former bar girl, i suspect she stops working after she move in in his apartment and depend on him.
He genuinely love her and so he did not mind her hanging around the house at times. She even ask him to help her bring her sister and mother to come and visit her because she said she is lonely and miss them so much. So he bought a couple of tickets for them. They stayed for a couple of weeks , he provides them money and food during that time.
When his girlfriends visit pass expires, she went back home to Cebu, after landing in Cebu, she apparently calls him and ask him to send her money because the money he gave her runs out, So he sends whenever she asked amount totalling to 24 k Singapore dollar over a period of 5 months.
Yes, she works in Singapore as a bar girl, He meet her at the bar where she works.
He later found out about her scam when she wrongly send him a message intended to her other bf….on her text it says, “honey my mom is in the hospital can you please help me, i need money now asap becoz she needs operation. Luv you , miss you muahhhhh…..
He tried to call her but when he can’t contact her he calls her sister and ask what happened to thier mother, the sister said she is at home sleeping.She must have forgot to warn her sister about it.
That’s the time he realized he was being conned.
The girl apologized but the damage has been done.
Well, one guy wokes up, maybe more are waiting to be conned.
I hope those kind of guys will open thier eyes and learn something.
I’m a single mom , working hard to give my kids a better life. I can’t see myself asking people for help esp guys i just meet in the internet. I am not in a relationship at the moment but i hope to find the right person in the future. Love does not happen overnight, it might take months or years to come. But, i hope whoever comes my way will love me wholeheartedly and honestly.
You blame foreigners for being naieve? Filipinas are the best hollywood actresses in the world and why blame an older man wanting to have a young woman? ,Its the Filipinas that say in their profile – looking for guy 20-70.
You need to wake up or accept the truth that online Filipinas 90% are bad apples. Dont blame foreigners blame your own kind..
Exactly…LiveLoveLaught….i had a sad experience about this scammers from cebu…..i had a misunderstanding with my bf and in one of his trip he decided to met this kind of people…..He met this woman age 44 who pretended to be separated and before my bf arrive she rented a room with her 22 year old daughter to show that he is really separated leaving the taxi driver husband in his ancestral house telling him that they (mother and daughter) will spend a 15 days out of town vacation in a relative. The husband didnt know about it, but had known from the neighbors that the wife had been meeting foreigners with a female friend (also married scammer) if not with her daughter. For sometimes if friends or neighbors saw them (the scammers) with foreigners they just reasoned out that were just ask to be as tourist guide. I caught them one time in the bar and a split of second i got the details about the woman and alas the next day with my circle of connection, i found their real identities and complete background…these crazy scammers are nothing but hungry mouth that live beyond their means….love wearing branded clothes…that the stupid husbands where left with nothing but shame…one of these lady scammer had some health problems that everytime she got sick the husbands spend for the hospitalization…the daughter is also noted for meeting foreigners…who i just learned lately had been reported by an officemates to the HR department for not being able to pay the debt she owes…..disgusting women who dont even think to protect their image and doesnt give importance to family values.
This scammers wrongdoing is an embarassment to our society. But true, that these Foreigners, specially the olders ones must be careful enough in choosing this pinay ladies
All relationships need work but first you got to be a 10 to pick a 10 dont think that all you need is money you will never get far in the long run.
I love the philippines the culture the natural love that you get from total strangers.
Love in God will help you just go to your church pray and have honor good things will happen….stop saying later or the good ones will say later to you.
Tiwala sa Diyos ang mabuting bagay ay mangyari
Bye Mike
most of the foreigners who come here only wants sex so they deserved to be scammed,i feel sorry for the good ones though,they have to be extra careful and background check their lady just to make sure!
Most foreigners who come here only want sex? and Pinoy men dont want the same amount of sex ? Its a human nature, get over it.
I should say that it is the person’s fault if he get scammed, He himself is trying to take advantage of the financial difficulties of the other party, using his more stable situation or money. A scammer can easily be detected, avoid sending money and she’ll be out in a jiffy, if you need to send money don’t use a money remittance like WU which most scammers preferred, send it throught bank which require stringent ID..you’ll see she/he will be very insistent not to do that. scammers too are at worked in the very early morning 2 to 4 am their time when they were suppose to work or school as a student. If they are so pretty chances are the pixs are not real and they are scammers.
I too was the victim of a scammer. She was very good at getting what she wanted (money). I met her on DIA and we started chatting often. We had chatted almost a year before there was any mention of money. This made me feel that she was legitiment. We had starting making plans for me to go to the Philippines to meet her and possibly marry. Now she knows she has me hooked and the request for money start comming more often. She had all kinds of reasons for her needs. Family member sick, cell phone broke so we would not be able to chat anymore, etc. I started to become suspicious when I would send her money I would not hear from her for several days. Then when I would here from her again usually something else tragic had happend and she needed more money. I put my foot down and told her I would not send her anymore money. I would soon be with her and we could take care of all her problems then. She disappeared. I knew her as Renith Elias living in Cagayan de Oro. I recently have found her again back on DIA. She is now using the name babyjhen.wantu and lives in Oroquieta. Live and learn…..
so sad it have to be that way that she have to wait for a year just to scam u..
be carefull in DIA…lots of scammers there now…of the 3 women we caught from cebu..they have several actives profiles there…
Your statement is so true about sending money and then not hearing from them for days until the next “crisis”
Rodger….please be very careful in DIA…the lady scammers we caught are still having several profile in DIA..Using different names and address…be carefull with them..for this 3 persons we know they have more or less 10 active profiles in DIA posting different pictures….noW i check DIA and found your scammer there..ask the DIA MGT TO DELETE HER AND COMPLAINED HER AS SCAMMER…
My analysis of the situation is twofold.
1. You would be very, very stupid if you think a 20 something will really fall for a fifty or sixty year old guy…..it does not happen even in the movies man !!! What they WILL fall for is his money, and what it can do for them and their family. You are just a WALKING ATM beleive me on that…..i have been there done that, so I KNOW THIS. IT IS THE TRUTH….even though it hurts your ego to admit it.
2. 50% of the Filipinas who are in the chat rooms are in it for the money, the other 45% are pros…….that leaves about 5% genuine ones. In short 95% are dishonest one way or another….In fact no other SE Asian nation women are so outright and blatantly dishonest when it comes to making gullible foreigners part with their money…..and this from a Catholic nation, where the church extolls the virtues of honesty…..these women are definitely NOT Christian ! and yet they dutifully go to church every Sunday…….if thats not being two-faced, what is ?
The 5% genuine ones are the ones you have to go for, and if you find the right one, you are set for life with the most wonderful and faithful partner you can hope to ever have…..i am fortunate there, I might add for my Lydz is one of a kind girl………as for the rest ,just let them be…maybe one day they will know and feel the kick, when the boot is on the other foot. And please, all you Pinays and Co. who feel these girls are doing it all for the money, and we should not judge them so harshly…..ask yourself one question only….if the roles were reversed would YOU then like it ???
I met a very nice young lady on chat, not a dating site. I have not really been looking for a gf, but her and I have been chatting for sometime. Yes her circumstances there aren’t great but she seems to be honest, never asking me for money. She wants me to come to the Philippines to meet her father, brother and sister and if all goes well maybe we get married. But, she asked me if we get married and if she moves to Canada, she was wanting to bring her sister, brother and parents here eventually, thats when I started to get suspicious about what her true motives were. She says she loves me, she’s rarely online because of her financial situation, but I’m wondering if I am being used as a vehicle to ger her entrance into Canada. BTW, I’m 49yrs old and she is 23yrs old, so I’m doubting there is any realistic chance of a relationship that would be lasting. Any suggestions or advice anybody?
a lot of filipina scammers don’t ask foreigners for money since they feel that foreigners will give them anyway. a lot of prostitutes also don’t ask for money upfront. they consider this an investment of sorts. they want to be considered as a girlfriend and not as a prostitute.
now if you explain to her that you don’t want to have a girlfriend you just want to have a friend here in the philippines she just might disappear. try telling her that you intend to retire in the philippines since you don’t have any money to retire in the first world country you are staying in and want to live a simple life in the philippines.
Hi BrO, Thing is all these woman have scams and intentions and all are widely varied in scams mate i could write a book on them ,as they use the sisterhood ok to manipulate , Ok and I will also say the men who go there treat these woman with contempt abuse and use like a form of slavery, so i will only comment to help you just please dot take in a offensive way
1: Mate she 23 ? ok and she says this to U i love U honey and if i come and live and marrried to U i relocate family ??
2: WHO is paying for relocation of family ?
Who is going to suppurt Her and Also U marry Pinai girl U marry who family and issues??
3: Men see Young girl and become fooled in there perception in alot of times as they say Age doesnt matter ?? I can tell you in my situation i found it does ok as its great for a while and you live the dream but you must remember that23 now in 10 yrs is 33 and 49 is 59 and its unrealistic , the reason why they want older man is 2 things ok as u become a second lover father figure provider and these woman no if u die older u she gets all, I had a mate in brisbane Aus he met a woman and went and married and brought home , he died 2 yrs into marriage after she lived In AUS and when Family asked for the funneral she would not allow them to see hom buried and bargained for inherientce? So thats a view and is true.
4: I honsestly have been in your situation and i had a 25yr gf when was 40 its 15 below me but i found great attentive but she still had baby tenedacy and wants club and then she became plastic everytime i came so gave it up then had a older woman at 29 she was great girl and i wanted to be with her in marrriage and when asked her and family got the Yes light so started to arrange things she i found out was married? i come to her 4 times she had kids and a family and i was fooled as i went to a markets and seen her as she didnt no i had come as i was to suprise her but it was luck i didnt ask i watched and followed and then when i went to ask a freind he told me leave straight away as U can be jailed if u involved with a married woman and her husband claims to police issues of U.
5: Age does matter i realized after a while and met some great people in pinai as most are good but oine thing i could never get over was they lie and cheat and then go to church claiming there christian ? i dont no what christion perception they have but it aint in my bible its a 50/50 mix and but same as we no in west is why we wont have the Seagull Woman here , I found my girl and this is my view Ok there is some great wife amterial above 30s mate 32 to 34 look and chat these woman are really wanting ” Decent Man” and will be were U may find a honest girl as i found this as younger are now in the new generation we find in the west now Me Me Me Me people but the 30s are willing to compromise for a future and even the single mums who have kids are great woman to , Each man likes a woman for her and makes them happy so follow your Heart ” Shes A Player Mate ”
6: When you go there , go to internet cafe Ok its a life changing experience for your perception of the people you talk to on the net as you see decent woman being corrupted by the bad ones who scam you see them with multiplie screens on monitor and decent guys and bad ones to on screen thinking shes hoest and only talks to U ,
7: Mate the true Pinai wife U seek is the best partner you will ever be lucky to have because you must look at this, SHE is lucky to have U and YOU are lucky to get a true old fashioned value wife . The True pinai Gf , Fincee , wife is Complex and gets moods but 90% of time makes U so happy as they believe in family first not a plastic card and coffeess every day like here in our world , you are best to find Village girl than city as there less corrupted . And remeber these woman mate have a thing us westerners can not except to and some times corrupts the relationship but if U work to beat the ” Jealous Syndrome” out of her views as she gets jealous over phone calls? talk in shop? late home from work? <>> so good luck mate , hope some helps U
Simple. Tell her “no” to all. Then see if she drops or not.
Hi…by the way you narrate it , she sounds so naive..maybe its includes in her wishes and dreams to help the family be placed to a better situation…what best to do, if you really love her is to meet and greet first before deciding to something serious relationships..at this age we cant tell yet , who are honest and true enough with their intention until we know their background and family traits…as for her age, i think shes a bit too young for you and often times here in Phils some young Pinays who got marry to older foreign men ends up being unfaithful by having back the relationship with their Pinoys bf….this really happens..but i dont want to disappoint you…Love always find a way….goodluck to you!
I’ve have often thought about it and with practical reasoning I know she is a sweet girl, but she is just that a girl. Her mother is in Romania right now as a maid, her father can’t work because of high blood pressure, she doesn’t talk to me from an internet cafe, she talks to me from their home using her sisters lap top, her father came to see me while I was online because he wanted to see just who I was and who his daughter ws talking about. However, she is way to young and I will have to sever the ties that we have because I just have a feeling that eventually this won’t work. She asked me last night if we could have children together but I told her “no” because I am almost 50yrs old and I do not want to start a family now and I have had vasectomy, she was disappointed but thats just the way it is. I will be 50 next year, is there a nice old fashioned filipina women who will love me faithfully as I will also love her just as faithfully? The women here in Canada and the US are not the marrying kind, even if they want to get married, North American women are too me, me, me and me.
just keep looking..we all deserve to be happy…love comes at the right time…i never rush too @ 50..lol
Thanks Clarenze, this girl does seem to be naive, she has asked me to come and meet her family where she lives in a small town about 2hrs north of Manila. She is a sweet girl and I’m sure she’ll make a fine wife someday but not for me. She has a 5yr old son and one of the problems that she has as she has told me is that she’ll never be able to marry another man there because of her status as a single mother. Anyways, who knows maybe I’m the one who is naive, but I think i am making a wise decision by looking for someone near or closer to my age. Thanks for advice Clarenze.
Hi Captain Cupcake…i am a woman who is very active in a Womens Group…i supposed she had the feeling that being a single mom it ends up the hope of falling inlove and getting marry…for now In the Phils..we have increasing population of single mothers, of which comes from failure marriages and unprotected sex…Long before its somewhat like a shame in our culture being a singlemom ( a discgraced as what we call before), but now its becoming acceptable and its every womens right to stand up and be proud of what she is….though for some men that comes from conservative families they dont welcome the idea of marrying a single mom…..but everywoman had the right to be happy…but have to protect herself from abuses.
I wish you goodluck too…
Oh cripes, now we have this “woman activist” crap in the Philippines.
Clarenze, I very much appreciate your openess and your kindness. To be honest I am a kind, gentle man who was once married before but after my trust for my ex being broken I have never been able to trust anotehr woman, however this girl comes across as being very true andn scincere, but again the age difference is quite obvious and will probably only spell trouble. I know that I would make a good husband as I will treat my partner as not only my best friend and equal, but as in one I can trust, love and respect deeply. I have had plenty of opportunities here in Canada to settle down with someone, however the women in this part of the world (as are the men as well) have lost what the true meaning of love and commitment to each other are. Maybe this is why I have leaned towards a filipina women, I know so many filipina’s here in Canada and they are the sweetest, kindest people I have met. I’d like to speak with you further on this subject away from this thread. If you’d like to email me sometime, let me know if it is ok and I’ll forward you my email address.
Hi captain cupcake..wil be happy t hear from you…you may reachme at rosebud2619@hushmail.com
Why is she using an encrypted email service? hmmm
Hi Clarenze, I tried emailing you at the address you gave me however the email keeps bouncing back to me. Is that the right email address?
hi…got a problem with that email ad now.. i cant even open it..hope you can give me your email..
try this new one rosebud6298@hushmail.com
Done..captain my captain!
pls give me your email
Hi Clarenze, you can reach me at marclundy@hotmail.com I look forward to hearing from you.
Reading all the post is quite amusing…each have different story.but the truth be told all different in some respect.Ive chatted with many filipina’s for 3 years.I personally havent been scammed but I dont allow myself to be to in that position.So dont allow yourself that either….find out about her talk open be honest.dont let your looks…or her nature fool you.granted most are very sincere in thier hearts as the truth….Oh yes the scammers are good…but quite frankly speaking are too easy to see…move on find the right gal….the scammers give the good ones a bad rap for sure…and guys there are many good ones…most just want a simple..better life for themselves and thier family.be prepared your marring the whole family if your accepted…but doesnt mean you have to care for each one….make it clear up front that you only wish to care for her needs.and her parents if needed..most scammers ae working for handlers who teach them how to act….the girls they choose are simple and coached they work off a percentage of the take.they wont stop till they achieve winning your trust and heart….If you listen and watch her on cam she will show signs as being coached and how to react to the queston…It may be her mom coaching too….It s a family affair the more money everyone shares…Ive personally met some not alot maybe out of 100…10 were playing for money….2 even came out and asked for a free ticket visa to the states….she said i wont marry you but will care for you……guys open your eyes listen…Its too easy too see..In regaurds most are sincerly looking for a long lasting relationshipI have many friends in the phils…and have sent money during a difficult time durning the cagayan washii floods…and for care for elderly nanay…but but knowing her 3 years ts easy to see if shes playing me…even we arent together shes very wonderfull pinay ;lady….she calls and asks if i need money…and please come and visit…altho Im not inlove with her…I mostley prefer older pinays 35-45 they are mature more….the younger ones seems mature but listen to them chat…you can see its will be hard to raise them…age does matter and let them know…but quite frank its your choice what you want to be…The older pinays are over looked because they are old now..and have children….but just as sweet and caring and sincere and faithfull as a younger girl…my opinion only…I think that sending money is fine as long as you have trust on her…..and she feels the same…but only after long time for knowing..basic needs
redflag..i need a new laptop cell phone ect…..best way is to meet her spend time I mean alot of time…..visits…enjoy the company….and enjoy each other.they are easy to adapt to any situation and in infact can give great advice in the matter ….first and formose my be honest…and tell her what you expect..and your needs and wants….if she agrees great..if not move on…allways be respectfull…Its better to be honest upfront…and she in return.most pinays are poor and take-care of the family at home..if not working..dont be alarmed if you see many people while she chats you…they are family orientated anf family means everything..be prepared to marry the whole family as thier approval means alot too her.put god in your relationship first.respect her for what she is….care for her needs…be faithfull loving….and treat her as shes your whole world…..everyday tell her shes your filipina princess…and thank-god you found her….you will be rewarded beyong your expectations.Oh yes pinay woman are very good at getting what they want they will ask openly…..if you say no not now…trust me she is very good at trying another way.once mind set…they will keep trying…lol..love it….I see someone memtioned marry a rich pinay huh huh…the poor ones who make 4000 p per month isnt not any less deserving then a rich career woman…In fact better to have poor then rich she will appreciate it more to have then a rich one….because she has to struggle to meet the needs for her family…..Its what you want……and want to be….yes you can have many girls there…..or be content on one….me personally one is enough……Im happy with her and all she does….look for pinay in the privince they seem to be more traditional…and have more morals…as to speak one woman man…and marry for life….guys just be honest with yourself….its easy to browse the date sites…but trust me single out just one you desire for your partner learn about her..get to know her upfront…and personally….meet her….be there for her allways when she needs you….just simple things..like how was your day….love you
your very pretty today as allways….keep it simple as she is simple….side notes…..to the guys getting scammed pls dont take this wrong but your allowing yourseles to be put into this position…..either you enjoy it..or up to no good……god bless and take-care….best of luck in finding your filipina princess for life…..
Exactly.
Hi,
I have a western white bf(i’ve never met him in person), a 45yrs old retired souldier in Israel(he said he retired coz he wanted to find his soulmate). He is currently living in new york, No wife, no kids. (i met him in Date In Asia, just minutes after i made an account, and he was also a new member)after we met we decided to deactivate our DIA accounts. I believe he is my soulmate coz we have alot of similarities, we always understand each other and we’ve been hurt from our past relationships.
I am a 20yrs old nursing student. I like western white guys alot coz they are so sweet(they still will kiss u and hold ur hands even if u guys were married for 50yrs already), so handsome(with blue eyes..rawrrr) and very kind-hearted.
He is sending me Big money every month (i’ve never asked, he offered me. am i a scammer:’(?), paying for my school, giving me expensive stuff etc.
I introduced him to my family and made him talked to my dad (which is a big thing for me). He is trying to come here in the Philippines b4 xmas, he wants to marry me and bring me to US for 2-3yrs and go back to the Philippines and settle here.
I am very sure i love him even though i’ve never met him. I always buy credit for international calls and call him everytime(he’s voice is my favorite sound:’)). He is my Bestfriend, my twin and most of all the love of my life.. I am very sure he loves me too coz i am always his 1st priority and he converted to my religion(BIG TIME POGI POINTS!). GOSH I LOVE HIM., IM IN HEAVEN!!
Sounds like you two have a good thing enjoy each other and may life smile on you!
Thank u Dave
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HI KIM.that’s a nice story of you,good luck …if he converted to your religion I pretty sure he’s a good guy,…congrats and hope to hear you soon…..by the way what is your religion…if you don’t mind.thnx
Andy thank u. I d0nt want to mention my religion here but its a sect of Christianity
hehehe it look’s like i know it…same like mine…anyway…good luck to both of you……just Pray TO GOD AND HE WILL GIVE YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED,…
Hello Kim,
Was just wondering how things were coming along, and were you able to meet your boyfriend during xmas?
Hooray, one normal good honest Filipina. Good luck to both of you. .
Thanks Robin
Theres alot of good and Honest Pinay. would u like me to introduce u to one? hehe my friends are single
Hi thnx for this site,we can express our feeling here.
My story was,I was on dating site.,/…….as a desperate women seeking for a good men ,hehehe….A lot of men send me their interest,and emailed me.but most of them are rude,first they will ask you right a way if you need money,If the guy asked me those question i really leave them and ignored them for my whole life.
Since a lot of them are Liar,I was decided to turn off my account,…One Day after 6 months I was tried again to re open it,maybe this time I can try my luck again.Yes it’s a lot of men sending interest and emailed on me…since some of them i response some not at all,One Filipino guy I was talked with and we exchanging emailed a lot of time and called a lot of time,with out money involved.He’s from Canada,he is a medical assistant,he want’s kids,marry me,and a lot of promised that i was really believed,One day I was waiting on him,since we exclusive talked on net,he said he can’t be online before 1pm Ph time,So 12;45 i was waiting on him,I was tried to buzz his account,and i saw he was writing a message but not on me,,,,,since that i never go online and leave him totally,i can’t be with a liar.never…..he went ph to meet me…but my trust gone….i never meet him….he called me a lot’s of time but as I said i totally ignored him…so i dont know if i am a scammer in this situation co’z that’s what he told me….since money never involve even he told me he send money but i never claimed it….so men and women should careful….not only men…
Its common for both men and women to have more than 1 chat mate. Nothing becomes serious until you meet in person and people do keep their options open. You never asked for money so ofcourse you can not be a scammer but you should have confronted him about it instead of doing what you did. Its the old Filipina pride isnt it.
Yes,Robin maybe i should but,i was believed he’s promises and i though that was a genuine one…When i told him that I won’t be chat to other men,all i said was truth…so that’s why hard to trust again…maybe pride yes,only filipina don’t have pride is the SCAMMER,..so i won’t really bother if men won’t like me…i know my self…im not that ugly hehehe ..and i have a good job…so im not in hurry also to have men…im just waiting for the right men,in the right place,….Any way thank you for your comment Robin…
To all readers here….Dont trust of online dating chat room from Philippines and dont blinded the prety she was.Dont ever send money to her. They are all Scammers!!.Good profesional educated and skill to persuade you with sweet romantic words when chatting with her.Dont hear of any excuse and the problem she’s faceing even a tears of blood she’s shown on the cam….They are good liars!!.
Hi Adrian , May i ask have you been to Phillippines ? as this is my experience all are on the look for better life Ok < but some arent scammers but its a 65% are to 35% good not best odds as this is My observation from 5 trips there so all who ever reads this post , dont take offence, i have been skimmed to but i allowed to get rid of them .
Ok so adrian when you go there i am not shore if you been to a intenet cafe its such a valuable learning experience as you will see the scammmers at there craft and how they do it is such a game to them as there monkey oportunist cunning ,all you meet on dating site have multiple names and profiles and are ready to provide a vailable storey to make you show compassion then BAM they pounce and work on you to come there for home advantage " Sounds bad but believe me when a family trick you with lies" you will understand some of my scamms i have seen .
Ok in a interent cafe the girls have multiple screen of men open?? with a cash register approach to all <> and all show sob storeys to make you send Cash ” Never Send cash even if You been and met << You say when i come i will help out as this reduces your risks the girls in 20s to 27 are the best with no ethics and most family mum and dad do not no they working cafe scams to so be careful.
One experience when i went to a cafe to check my emails was this a married woman worked an american man he was None the wiser that she was married and her husband gave her commands from the next booth and i remember the conversation as he said get him to pinai and you spend a week with him ??? see no morals is selling ones soul as i was astonished and another thing is this if a woman whos married there has no divorce and you meet them and a relationship happens and husband finds out you run the risk of being jailed under pinai law for adultary Act in pinai
30s to 40s seem the best as i no this is different to western ways but i have found a genuine one im 42 s shes32 and has one child << Mate there the best the single Mums as they no the score and appreciate a man who looks sfter them and there not demanding to " Maybe the Plastic woman you Encounted" Whos wants a green card and a gold credit card to <>> He will die quick so i can get cash from him early then i will bring my Pinai boy friend to the country ??<<< So a Prenuptial aggreement is best Ok as in pinai theres a LAw called Conjetial ?? Sorry i no the law but names dodgy , this is when a western or pinai man marries in Philliphines A NO NO as never marry there as you will be goverened by there scammer lawers and law as this law says once married Half is hers and Yours so technically she can annull and divorce and claim estate but they dont as a rule as they want passge to western wonder world so caution wins there to you get an aggreement she must sign and you do this in her lawyers room so she can not claim you forced her , I mention this as i have seen so many scam and approaches they use
In Australia i seen a Male marry her and bring her to australia she say i love him " Bulshit she loved Cash and well the poor dude was marrried before and he had kids and he had a will and made fair for his kids to get a third each so one third to both kids and a third to new wife but she claimed hardship and swindled kids then had her X bf come holiday and try get citizenship but when Kids showed her for her she lost all claim and was deported as in australia they pass new law to protect male for 5 yr of foreign wifey scams , Hope enlitens You adrian and to all who read post do not take offence this is my real life experience and im dam shore theres more other examples that show fair ways as i found not all pinais are scammers but theres a definate major amount so ADRIAN best to go there and go to small secluded province and look for decent ones as the ones in citys become corupted very quick
Yes..I been visit Philippines several time But just for vocation with my friends.I was the victim of the Scammer too lastime and that is why i want to remind and give advise to our friend here especialy from US,Kanada or Australia to take precaution when meet someone in dating chat room from Philippines.Mostly the victim is from Adult cam websites chatting in yahoo massenger!.
Thank q so much Tom for the great sincere advise to me and I appreciate!.
Tom, No lawyers agreement between you and the babe is going to protect any foreigner in the Piany land. Courts always favor the Filipina babe in the land of the Philippine Islands.
There was an old Guy 73 from Australia 6 months ago was shot dead because his babe for 4 years had a Pinay husband. Then when the Foreigner decided to sell the house under the Lawyers agreement, the Pinay ape came out of the woods and shot him dead. Look, there is no justice or law in the Philippines, its the wild west. No legal agreement means anything that belongs to a Foreigner because all their laws over ride it in Court. They got it made.
Adrian sorry to hear that your one of the victim of this people who really don’t have shame or pride as a women…but im not agree of what you said there that all of filipina are scammer,we almost a hundred million population…and 49 % are women.so how many women on net? not even a 1% of our population…and let say 50% of that 1 % are scammers…so please dont be so bitter and i assure you it’s a lot of a good women…and good wife out there in philippines…if you find a good women there they will treat you like a king…i have a lot of foriegn friend, they married a filipina and they said they are so happy because they found the right women,..once again sorry of what you had been through,GOD BLESS YOU..
Its a woman world. You get that, a womans world.
Foreigner marries a Filipina in the Philippines and lives together with her in the Philippines. They are married. Foreigner pays for land. builds a house. Who own the land and house? The Filipina. So Filipina finds a Pinoy Boyfriend and kicks out the foreigner form the house he paid for. What can the foreigner do ? Nothing.
OR
Foreigner brings Filipina to USA or other western country, he already owns a house there. if the Filipina and him split up she gets HALF the house and still gets to stay in the west. .
Its always a win win situation for the woman.
Scammers know this and governments look after women.
So true Brother maybe men should do this and isnt this why some men go to pinai and have a rgular woman and promis the world and use them ? I seen a german male there in Philliphines he was married 2 kids and laughed and this was my first trip there he said MATE they Use us for money and a hand up in comfort of life and the old love U till die addage doent work as woman who say im looking for decent gent up to 70 are dead set scammers and hope male die and there in for what they can get as this guy had 2 gfs? and spent 2 weeks with each and even had the hide to ask one to marry him in Malayaisa as hes married in germany legal but if marries the pinai in malyasia its only legal in that country and german wil not reconize the marriage so what he does is swoon poor simple woman who are trying to scam him for well better life situation and who blame them i dont but he uses and discards them its shame full . On the other hand if U have been caught like me with a Broom rider western fat Arse loud mouth protected spieces who actually rates herself over other woman the Fillipina woman are best but its a lottery status to find a good one and i find the Part of a western man and fillipina so funny as alot of western men have pinai Gfs and there not Prostitutes but label by there own race as one lifes full of choices and constraints the problem has been that the male is to trusting when he needs some ferret hehehe but they use as a bargain so in the end its best to study some of them and i have also seen this a fillipina scammer hook a american guy then when in USA network with the Fillipina comunity and then make lies to husband and divorce him and next minute shes removed him and had a pycology test on him if he wants to see his kids and BAm next a Village Bf man turns up for a holiday <>> The point is MEN should net work and warn all others of there drama and games and manuevers they use as after all if we did there be miimal scams and Never trust a Net Woman as there so false and full of lies is my honest appraisal but some meybe but i havent fund many , the western governments are full of Lesbians and Poofters who intend to break down society morals and mildstones which is to break the male and remove him from his family so no wonder the odds are stacked for them but in Austalia theres a new approch as the pinai when scam hubby are sent home in a time period when he notifies the Imigration of there deceit in marrriage as this has protected alot of men now
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i do want to stress a point that I am only criticising the bad elements of the female population and from my own experience that no western man will ever find a woman like a true Filipina. They really are unique and with old fashioned qualities that western women left behind in the 1950′s. I hope it stays that way. So whenever I use the word Filipinas or Filipinos it doesnt mean ALL (only a small percentage of the whole ) and Im sure I am speaking for many other foreigners here as well.
Yeahh!!…I am aggread of your comment Tony!,Not all pinay of Filipinas is a Scammers but mostly.One’s ill been a victim of Scammer from Philis…Im not trust anymore for sure.Enought of me the experience from the past.Better of me to find other Asian women and not from Filipina.So beware…friends!!.
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lol glad i was smart enough to look up scams before dating online, had an ex that all she seemed to do was want money from me and if i couldn’t give her money she would get angry and threaten to leave me i basically posted on her wall all the signs and things she exhibited from a scammers site and how she was fake to everybody anybody dumb enough to hook up with her after that is either mildly retarded or a gluten for punishment.
Good action taken asinshin,Dont pay attention to her.Avoid money talks.Use your common sence and be alert while dealing you meet in sosial network to avoid any unpleasant surprises and lastly never send money or you be sorry of yourself on money tranferd.Remember…a good friends didnt ask for helps to sending money,Never hurry in relationship.Time is your companion in judging Scammers….So beware my friends!!!.
look at it like this if you out dealing drugs you ain’t about to give the money until the product is in your hands right??? right now don’t pay somebody over the net until you been with them and lived with them long enough to realize what type of person they are and sometimes that takes several years before getting to truly know the person. real talk have a nice day enjoy.
Hi,
I’d like to add my own story if I may ? After 2 years of chatting with a Philippines girl I have to admit I was yet another scam victim. I met her 3 times and she put up a most convincing scenario. She enlisted the help of several of her friends who in fact turned out to be family. The whole family appear to have been involved. I first saw her on an Asian cam site as a model and so the story began. It seems her live-in lover who it seems is a 3-wheeler driver and drug peddler allowed her to be rented out for my visits to Asia so she could meet me. The whole details are available if anyone wants them as if only 1 further person is saved from being her next victim, it will be worthwhile. She uses the name Michelle Mendoza Pallen and has cam site model names such as chef sexy , bichy mom, takeme4ever, and many more
I have noticed nearly all the men on this site who have been scammed have a couple things in common.
First, they dont listen, every site on the net including dating sites state “NEVER SEND MONEY TO SOMEONE YOU HAVE NOT MET IN PERSON”. Makes perfect sense, would you ask a complete stranger for money?
Second, Many have had relationships with bar girls or cam girls, these girls sell sexual favors, they have no respect for themselves or self worth, why do you think they would respect you and your hard earned money?
Gentlemen, remember there are scammers from every corner of the world. Lets buck up and learn from our own mistakes, to make a mistake is human, it is not failure but how we learn, But to make a mistake and be too arogant to see our own flaws that played a part, will not allow us to learn, if you make a mistake and dont learn from it but simply spread a blanket of judgement across an entire race of people, then that is failure. Failure to learn and grow as a person.
I am dating a lady who is living in Canada currently she seem legit. However, I been noticing while she is on skype members of her family are always crying to her about their financial woes. I told her I refuse to be involved in giving her family money. I told her I think her family can stand on their own two feet and go work for their money, but it seems they are always at her to send them money. Seem there is always financial problem after financial problem. This month alone they took her whole pay cheque and this is starting to leave me feeling unsettled. I am suspicious of a scam going on here with regards to her and the family. I am holding to the idea I will never give them money because I can see they own cars, houses, and have computers in the back ground while on Skype. I do not believe her family is poor by any means with what I see around them, but they keep asking her for more and more money and this is leaving me wondering what I should do, because if we continue our relationship – I am thinking we may end up in an uncomfortable situation because her family seems to be taking all the money she earns every month.
Hello Micheal,
You are quite right, while many filipino’s are truly in need and rely on assistance from family members working oversees. If they have cars, Especially more than one and computers, then they are by no means struggling. I have noticed in the many years I have spent off and on in the Philippines that many filipino’s seem to cling to the idea that financial status is a measure of personal worth. They try to appear richer than they are to raise their status within their society.
Some will even put unnecessary pressure on family to accomplish this. I would tell your girl honestly what you see and how you feel. Because frankly unless they need money for basic needs of life, they need to take responsibility for their own welfare, If she cannot see this and realize she needs to also help herself, then maybe her ties to the family are too strong.
Also you should know, that the Oldest daughter, Often reffered to as Elay or Enday, are commonly expected to take responsibility to help the family out. But this should not be the case for families who are middle class or higher.
Your fellow Canadian.
Hi Michel i must say and just read post she doesnt seem a scammer Bro , but what Us men dont follow is she is a status woman in her family because she works abroad and all skype relos have no idea to how much its cost her to live and earn but they think shes rich because earns money outside pinai and knows that all family whether uncle or 5th cousin or long lost relo has same chance to get money given by her to help if she can as this is Phillipino family normallity as she Ok feels obligated to her family to help this is her culture BRO ask her comunicate and ask why she will tell u ok the true pinai woman loves her family and puts them first before her BRO shes sounds a keeper BRo
as in western we never ask family for help unless desperate , well her family are desperate so she trys to help but if she asks U to help if married U must say yes after we are ok first but never help ok , i was there 3 weeks ago with my wife and well this is it i will mention >> i walk down street with my wife of 5 yrears ok , cousin relos all come out of wood work saying hello to her and me as think im a dumb arse dont speak pinai but my wife told me U learn so when they ask me for things U no to say no and walk away from them but its like this they ask you for 100 pesos which is nothing in a money sence because my wife is genuine and noes i only look at her and excepted her and were shes from and way her family lives is a reason why they look for a western man compared to there men there as alot of pinoy are playboys
She to me sounds decent and cares enough to help family with her pay check so tells me she a Ok girl and well set your boundaries like U have for Her and U and hope works out Bro as to be not biased there the best wife U will get as Man is first to her and ive had arguements with my wife as i say U and me are 50/50 in marriage instead of me 100% and u last but worth all the family issues Ok Good Luck to U
If you pinay is doing a good job keeping the house clean, cooking your food, and humping the joystick, then throw her $100 – $200 per month. When she asks for more or complains, kick her back to her parents.
If you are not in control of your woman, then you are a sorry arse excuse of a man.
I have been scammed by this user
http://www.dateinasia.com/Kantawan
http://www.findloveasia.com/Kantawan
until I found out it was too late. I kept sending him money in Thailand. But to my surprise, he was a ladyboy.
God bless you all.
Yeahh..you are to late already and nothing you can do with your money anymore.I shared your sadness because you’re the victim of Scammers.So ..next time watchfull and take precaution friends of webcam chatting websites ok?.
Hi adrian..as i check his/her profile in DIA she/he is online right now..Please report her/him now at DIA..so they can bock the idiot…so many fake profiles in DIA..so many married women also pretending to be separated..
its so disappointing to know this kind of people who are all living a lie..
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Hi Gilbert, did you not suspect anything ? I ask as they usually have helpers who create a kind of smokescreen to hide whats really happening. They dont usually scam alone.
Scam Warning Signs
1. Ask for money to see her on webcam?
2. Ask for money for education?
3. Ask for money for food or rent?
4. Ask for money for plane tickets or visas?
5. Ask for money for a medical emergency?
6. Professing love at first sight?
7. Multiple requests for Money?
This are commonly and widely spoken by those who has been victims of scammers either in webcam chatting sites or social networks lately .Many forums and topics related to scams and several opinions has been suggested to avoid being a victim of scams. As to what I had seen, mostly but not all the victims of scammers are Americans, Australians and a few countries in Europe. The country which has the highest rank of scammers is Philippines followed by Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore. In my research, for a period of more than 2 months, I had gathered an information and guidelines that I would like to share and I hope that would help the readers especially men who are trying to find their partners in dating websites and social networks and is trying to evoke their pity to send money to their lovers, is the most common strategy of the scammers.
Although the majority of Asian singles are genuine and serious about finding a partner; unfortunately a few of them turn out to be scammers and malign Asians on online dating websites. Most Asians involves in dating scams works on the principle of low value, high volume scamming. Typically this involves asking the victim to send small amount of money to buy food, pay for daily living expenses, internet access, hiring a private room with a webcam or numerous other variations on the above. Asian scammers may also ask you to send money for plane tickets, visa fees, marriage annulment fees or other travel related expenses.
Webcam scams
There are several variations on this scam. In one variation, an Asian asks you to send money so that she can purchase a webcam for an online video chat with you. The victim sends the money to purchase a webcam and the lady vanishes with the money never to be seen again. In another variation, the Asian lady may ask the victim to send money so she can hire a private room in an internet cafe. Once again, the lady vanishes with the money. In the final variation of this scam, the Asian lady may explain that she is a student and is moonlighting as a webcam girl at an adult chat site. The Asian lady sends the user a link to an adult chat site and states that the service is free and a credit card is only needed for age verification. Several weeks later, the victim looks at their credit card statement and sees billing for adult chat services. No doubt this happens for those who have given their credit cards and Bank accounts information.
Education fee scams
In this scam the scammers ask you to send money for enrolment to get back to the class after stopping from school due to financial problem and cannot afford to pay the fees for college, university or other educational activities. In Philippines, for an example where there are no student loan program and scholarship grants are extremely hard to obtain, and students there whose parents have no money to finance their children’s education, deeply sorry to say this, but this is the comments, reality or facts given by the victims as to what country in Asia they were scammed, has the higher rate of education fee scams like this. You can avoid falling into this trap by taking few precautions which are outlined below.
Food, rent or living expense scam
In this scam the scammer asks you to send money for food, rent, internet access or other living expenses. Typically this will be followed by a request for another small amount of money. Shortly, after the victim sends the initial amount and more worst, she tell you that she was kick out from the house she was renting due to failure of paying the monthly dues.
Travel expense and visa fee scam
In this scam, the scammer will say that he/she wants to visit you but doesn’t have enough money to pay for his/her plane ticket and travel expenses. They will then suggest that you send them the money so they can purchase a plane ticket. Shortly later, they will tell you they need additional money for a passport fee, visa fee, transportation to the airport and miscellaneous expenses as requirements for sure. In some cases, they will also tell the victims that the visa requirements state that they need to have a certain amount of money in their bank account as a proof to the immigration officers so that they have sufficient funds for their travel expenses. Some scammers will show fake copies of plane tickets, visas or other documents to make the travel plans appear to be authentic. After wiring the money, the victim waits at the airport patiently for their lover’s arrival with a bunch of flowers. Only when all passengers are off the plane and the scammer doesn’t show up, that they realize they have been victim of scam. In order to avoid these scams, never send money for any travel related expenses, instead make it clear that you will travel to meet them AFTER you have spent considerable time chatting to them for many months. Also, make it clear that you will never send any money to anyone you meet online. If the person is genuine they should be very happy that you will travel to meet them, if they are scammer and sense that they will never receive any amount of money from you, you will probably find them disappear as soon as they realize they will not receive any financial benefit from communicating with you again.
Medical emergency/emergency scam
In this scam, the scammer will contact the victim and explain that either one of their close family member had tragic accident or medical emergency and will die or suffer grave consequences unless you send them enough money to pay for the medical fees. Typical scenarios include traffic accidents, brain hemorrhages, heart attacks, kidney operations, stroke or hypertension etc. In many occasions, the scammer may have primed the victim by previously telling you all about their fake mom, son daughter, niece, etc. and the victim may have even spoken to the fake mom, son daughter, etc. on the phone or by email. This is a ploy to gain greater sympathy from you when they reveal that someone will die in 24 hours unless you send the funds for an emergency operation. These scammers play on the victim’s emotions and are hard to resist. A few scammers are very smart to tell you that their father/mother died and don’t have enough money for funeral. If this is true, ask her to fax the death certificate or police report. Don’t send money to her without any of these two evidences. This is important and if she fails to do this with excuses, no doubt she’s scammer.
Request for Money, Large or Small = SCAM!
It is important to remember that sending money to any scammer, no matter how small, encourages the scammer to harass other online daters for money. I strongly recommend never send any amount to anyone that you meet online, and don’t even send money to buy a postage stamp not even a cent. Remember when the money sending stops, the scamming will stop too.
###HOPEFULLY THE TIPS AND GUIDELINES BELOW WILL HELP YOU AVOID FALLING INTO THE TRAPS OF SCAMMERS BY TAKING A FEW PRECAUTIONS.THESE TIPS WILL HELP YOU IDENTIFY SCAMMERS; I CANNOT GIVE YOU A GUARANTEE; BUT YOU MUST HAVE TO USE YOUR OWN JUDGMENT ON SPOTTING SCAMMERS ONLINE ON DATING WEBSITES AND SOCIAL NETWORKS.THIS IS MY OPINION AFTER READING A TOPICS OF DISCUSSION IN THE WEBSITES AND THE CONCLUSION I MADE HERE IS FROM MY OWN JUDGEMENT. AND ALL THE READERS ARE WELCOME TO ADD, COMMENT AND SHARE WITH ME IN THE COMMENT PAGE. ###
1. Avoid Money Talks: Money is the key thing involved in scam. As you become friendly with a girl, if she sends direct or indirect messages about how hard her life is, or she has stopped education because of financial problems, or her mother needs hospitalization or that she does not have money to pay for renting the Internet cafe, the chances are high that the girl is asking money from you. Remember, never send money to anyone you meet online. Money should not be a topic of discussion during the getting to know each other stage. You should reserve major financial decisions only when the relationship is beyond the initial stages and is heading towards marriage. Remember, a good friend you meet either in chatting websites or social network have morality and feel ashamed to a ask money from you or of any kind of help, especially in term of money talks.
Once you start the process of sending her money, you would be surprised to see how quickly her monetary needs increased. You would soon land up paying for her examination fees, medicine for her father, tuition fees, medical check-up of mother, repairs in their house, house rental fee, money for her sister’s marriage, or for buying the hottest model of laptop or mobile phone as a way to communicate with you at all time. This are just a few techniques and others will beg you for the house rental fee, water and electricity is cutoff and need your help with Sympathy.
2. Never in hurry in a Relationship: Time is your companion in judging scammers. Most scammer’s main goal to get money and they don’t want spending much time in exchanging a lot of emails. They want to extract as much money as possible in the short span of time. So they would never go for long courtships, or discuss in details about their likes, dislikes, personality, aspirations etc. So, if a girl says that she is in love with you after the exchange of few emails, and also writes about her genuine love for you and how desperate she was before meeting you online and how thankful she was to meet you, then you should be watchful. She may start calling you honey, sweetheart, lover and other romantic words within a few emails without even taking any efforts to know you. She will also mention about immigration, passports, visa and the expenses involved in this process, be careful in dealing with her. Don’t be blind by the pretty face she has. Facebook and Twitter are sometimes cannot be trusted social networks. Scammers normally use different identity and pictures to show in the page. The names given are sometimes false. Sometimes they use other person’s picture and attach to their profile to convince that he/she was the person on the profile given. This happened many times in Facebook. So beware!! Scammers is every where…friends!!!!!!!!!
3. Use Webcam chat: Sometimes the girls with attractive pictures are in reality guys, gays, lady-boys, old women, single mom or ex-prostitutes who are in need of money. So if a girl says she does not have a phone or do not want you to call her or does not want to show her face on webcam or tries to hide from you in some other way, chances are very high that she is a scammer. During chat sessions, use of webcam is a good way to see your chat mate and know her genuineness. You should watch her facial expression and body language while she chats with you. You can also confirm that the person chatting with you is the same person in the photo of her profile. Take into considerations on how she interact, give and received text while on chatting. Use your judgment to identify scammers!
4: Copy and paste letters: Standard templates, letters or emails are usually another sign to identify scammers. If an email seems like it was copied and pasted to send to anyone, and is not relevant to your reply or queries, you should get that as a WARNING. If they are not addressing you by your name, or write irrelevant information when replying to your email, you should be careful.
The above mentioned facts are just part of scamming techniques which may be a helping hand to all those who need some genuine guidance on online dating websites. Having said that, I would also like to mention here one more fact which is, there are no perfect rules when it comes to courtship or love. Ultimately, common sense comes handy and you should decide what is right and what is wrong for you. Fast food mentality should not be applied for finding true love. Take time to understand the relationship status, a year and longer is better to know each other as well.
The only relief is that compared to genuine Asian girls the percentage of scammers is less. There are many Asian girls who sign up on Asian dating sites such as cam chatgirl whose aim is to actually find their future partners instead of getting money from you…So be careful. The rule of the thumb is to follow your instincts. If something appears to be fishy then avoid getting into that relationship – don’t wait and let her go no matter how beautiful she was. At the same time, don’t allow few rotten apples to stop you from finding your happiness online. Use your common sense and be alert while dealing with any online relationship to avoid unpleasant surprises.
Good luck to you all for searching a genuine and true Love in the cyber world and hopefully you are not to be victimized by the Scammers not only in Asian countries but every part of the World – where there is a man and woman, surely there is a SCAMMERSSSS!!!!!.Internet
I met a a couple of Filipina online, and soon they were asking money for some reason. Some reasons are easy to flatten. Hospital bills: Ask the name and contact details of the hospital (confirm this online) and call the hospital. All of a sudden, she says the hospital doesnt accept incoming calls ! School Fees: ditto. The school has no Bank and no phone and cannot accept direct payments ! Pharmacy bills: Most pharmacists speak English and have a phone, and some would accept CC payment, if necessary.
There are many genuine and honest Filipina, but these dont spend there time in Net Cafes. If you choose to put some poor girl on a WU scholarship, be realistic about your expectations
So True a word was said , as there is so many ways these woman lay awake at night and dream of the next scam approach and unsuspecting victom , another Education scam is this > a philli woman u are taken with talks to u and u like her and she carnt speak good english so because u like they say are best to send her to school to only learn english as she ” Doesnt talk or learn english ? ” Thing is all schools teach english as second languge in Philliphines as this is a neccessity for there Economy or if travl abroad they use it so stands to reason why they have a second english language but the scammed is aske to send to school so she can brush up on english ?<<< No money to no person U dont no? Example if I knoched on your front door and asked you for $10 would U give a total stranger your hard earned money ??
The main thing is in a philliphino family is and U must realize is pinai woman are hard working in any field there job is in but the LAZy arse MALES who are in these familys dont contribute much as they either have Sisters/Ante/daughters/cousins/Relos working in other countries as easy than men to place gain full employment in a foriegn country as DH or a Job of means , which equates to why work at all when the woman oversees or in pinai have a job and i can sit arround waiting for the Female worker to give me money to gamble with and get drunk and laze arround doing Zip all day , I know Most men work but theres a huge percentage that do as i mentioned and this is why there are unfortunately alot of single mums as the dad runs and grabs another woman after haveing kids and then doesnt help woman contribute to kids best start in life and hence is why woman look to western men for scams as they no most W-men are good family first before them types as compared to lazy pinoy men
Dont give money to Know person U dont no or in any manner as once U give then u become a tap of available credit when manipulated in any storey she can push U and well one thing i have learnt is all times being in pinai is that Woman who work are proud of them and wouldnt ask U for any money <<<< to 1st get U there so can work charm on U and always ask when U come there ?? because then they have best chance at charming U for them and A true Pinai woman is the most jealous woman u will see but when U understand them and culture Whod blame them when they get a decent western man as we dont iltreat them like there own males do , Man best way give no cash and dont promise or show any wealth when there best to go unshaven rag clothes and minimal fashion clothes as they assess U on bags, watches , shoes , phone etc as to amount of wealth , on a whole a good true pinai woman is the best wife a western man could wish for as they commit to husband and family but need western guy to sometimes help her with family issues and what guys forget if your sister was pennyless youd help so when U marry a pinai woman u marry whole family , met family first access wants and needs never offer money cry poor for u first as this helps to stop them asking and Find a decent no asking woman and treat her with respect and care for her and U will be happy . Hope helps decent guys find there One for them
I love going back to this site from time to time just to remind my self that relationships that started online simply would never work! I also love reading posts of foreign guys who keep on telling that all Filipinas are scammers. Just makes me wonder though, why do you guys considered having relationships with Filipinas if you think that we’re all that bad? Hmmm, perhaps there are sooo many reasons why you can’t find your mates in your own countries? Feel free to share, I’m all ears…It also makes me wonder if it’s because of our own orient beauty (that u often refer to as exotic) or is it because of our submissiveness to give you all the pleasures you need even if you require so much kinky fuckeries. Ohh, maybe…, it’s because more of the latter, right? and you think you can get those for free?! Hello u guys, ur the man ur supposed to be the provider for everything, if you can’t do that then don’t get into a relationship with any female not just Filipina but from every corner of the world. We give you all the pleasures and the kindness u want but you also have to sweep us off our feet from time time, be our superman at least, be the answer to all our problems and our family’s problems. Would you want your filipina gfs faking her orgasms while ur doing it because she’s too worried about her family problems?! get to know us very well get to know more about our culture and how we love our families and our clans. I am soooo wishing right now that I could find a site or a forum about filipinas hating their ex-foreigner bfs too and show them this thread, hmmmph!
I have seen both sides of searching for love in the Philippines and I have learned from the mistakes I have made and now i am currently engaged to a Beautiful woman (I met on DIA) and also have a friendship with another i met on there but I have also been scammed and that was due to my own lack of education and gullibility and loneliness. I would tell everyone do not judge the Filipino people until you have been there and walked in their shoes, Most of them are a very caring, loving, loyal, jealous (if your not ready for that you’re not ready for a Filipino bride
), honest and as it has been said when you marry one you do marry the whole family so expect to be asked to help because it is part of the culture there when they have extra they share it that’s just how it is if you don’t wish to share with your new family move on because it will drive a wedge between you and your girl and it won’t last. but for some not having anything leads them to the dark side and just like every where in the world there are the dishonest and lazy who take advantage or others. For those of you that have been scammed, used or taken and harbor resentment and anger toward the rest of the Filipinos stop looking for love there because you won’t find it caring that baggage in your heart. There is a lot of useful information here but there is also a lot of bad mouthing and that is not useful I understand the frustration and need to vent
My advise is to learn from the past and move on and try again but don’t bring the past with you and then have no room in your heart for love
Well said Anna, But please remember that not all us foreigners are like that.
But I agree, if you love a filipina, you must also truly love her family, that is the culture that one must accept if it is to work, and if you truly love her and her family, how can you or your wife stand by and watch them struggle while you live in style?
If you show her family real love, they in turn really love and view you as part of the family and she will view you as her superman and out RESPECT the real basis for true love, will adore you. I know this from personal experience.
WHAT IS FRUSTRATING RIGHT NOW FOR FILIPINA WOMEN ARE THESE SICK SEX PERVERT FOREIGNERS COMING TO PHILS… before their feet touch down the Philippine soil they studied the culture and once their here and met their Target…they sweep off their feet by showing fake good attitudes: taking the family to a good resort for a short holiday, promising to open up a family business, sponsoring relatives schooling etc…BUT ONCE THEY GOT A SEX VIDEOS OF THE FILIPINA WOMEN HE IS DATING….HE WILL FLY AWAY…accusing the Pinay for being unfaithful and HIM flying home with an additional collection for his own Porno Sites…then after a month comes back again to victimize another Pinay…..We have notes he had owned several dating sites.
Well..we know of one old european guy who had just started conquering PINAY WOMEN last year……his days are numbered in Phils, and a Womens group is working on to TOTALLY BAN sexpats like him.
Nothing would make me happier than to see the whole Angeles city crowd run out of the country. I am a foriegner who spends much time in your beautiful country. I am married to a filipina whom I have built a family business for and a nice home, It will take me another year to completely pay for everything.
I know my wife is faithful and truly loves me for the love I have shown her and her family. If you cannot accept that those who can are expected to help family and that showing this kind of love for her family is the surest way into her heart, then you are in the wrong country.
It makes me sick seeing all the foriegn guy’s on the plane talking about how much pussy they are going to get. They are a disgrace to their countries. they are exloitive pigs and give the rest of us a bad reputation, making people see us and our spouse as a john and a prostitute.
The difference between a western woman and an asian woman is that the asian woman will view her husband as a hero and love addore and respect them for all their efforts to help the family and make themselves a part of their family, a western woman takes all she can from a man, and then divorces him and takes the rest and all he makes for years to come, for themselves only, out of pure unconcienable selfishness.
Filipina’s are beautiful and exotic and show as much or more devotion for their mates than he does. If he is stingy and unwilling to share his good fortune to help her very own family, he is showing no love for her or her family, yet he expects total love and addoration reguardless? It has been my experience that with most filipina’s, what you put into your relationship is what you will get out of it and more.
Glad to hear a positive reply from you Daniel. In my own simple way, I only expressed that we are not all scammers. I’m happy for you and your wife but unfortunately, I haven’t met an expat like you.
Not all but mostly a scammers….sorry to say this but the reality is real!!
Hi Anna , i liked what Daniel says and puts into action as hes the genuine man like my self and im married to a Beautiful Filipina , who some times frustrates me because says im ugly when shes hands down a 10 to a western fat arse hippo bum and total trash mouth and this is why guys give up and venture to fillipines , thailand, lazo, and cambodia and Nam , not for sex?? a life partner whos NOT COMPLEX like western feminist woman who wonders why men now dont look at her and marry a caring asian woman .
Im not here much as im married and happy , I respected my why first time i met her and then as we wanted more asked me to stay with her family , and because i like her i went through the Family meetings and stares and worries and the third degrees and was not in a hotel as i stayed for her in a slum area as parents can only afford but i have removed them from there in my caring way ,as they are so caring and loving and most are hard working there to , i was asked to help uncle ante cousin and help and she told me its something i need to no You will do is help family in time with things , I told her and to my morals was this , I marry you first and look after you and me and kids like i must as i must work to live and do not need government hand outs BUT if i have spare after we pay all expences i will help when can OK so my wife to be said good you now no to love me IS TO LOVE MY WHOLE FAMILY and i will be good wife as this is the way our familys work , we are all genourous and if you can not be like that they will not tollerate and argue with me , and this as we all help when needed and just want you to no from start .
When i walk down street with GF as she was 5 years ago and EVEN NOW?? when married and this is so wrong as i believe fillipinos are some times racist or justs as i would say Egg heads and please dont tkae offence as when i post i hope is to help guys who look for a decent lady is help , She is Viewed By the Fillipinas town or neighbours etc as a Prostitute because is with a western man ? They Dont No me? or who i am and my upbringing to them under god . And what i do for her in my life is take her from poverty and make her a princess and made me happy as she is a true pinai wife but jealous is her to but i looked at her for what was her personality and her mannerism and her nature < may i ask AGE doesnt matter woman say ??
Well my wife says it does as this is how men find scammers as im 8yrs older to my wife compared to these sex tourist who are 20 or 25 supporting there egos of lost youth to a 18year old lady ?? there just so laughable as to be fair whos the fool them or the woman as these men should have a fillipino listing of sex tourist offenders and ban them for good , cheers hope was constructive
Bob I thank you for liking what i said. However I must point something out to you. Like the local filipino’s who do not know you or how you were raised, but they assume your wife to be a prostitute is very prejudice, so also it is Prejudice to assume that Couples who are 20 or 25 years apart in age are a joke. I say this because I have known filipina women in my own country who have married men much older even though they were already living here and citizens,
The older man is what they preferred, also My sister a caucasian woman married at 26 a man of 53, And no he was not rich, he is a social worker, while she owns a highly successful internet based business.
Consider that to your wife, maybe age does matter, and I am sure many scammers will say it does not matter, but there are also those women who truly do prefer to be with a man much their senior.
Like those prejudice against you, be careful not to judge others in the same manner.
I remember my first trip to the Philippines about two years ago. I was flying there from Los Angeles. When we landed in Taipei (flight connection) I sat next to another American. He was an older man, scruffy looking needy a bath, but after flying that long I guess we all could have used a shower.. It wasn’t long before we started talking. He asked why I was heading to the Philippines,
I told him I met online a very wonderful Filipina and was going to meet her. He asked her age and I told him 45. He quickly snapped back WHAT??? as though he got hit by lighting. I said 45 years old, why? he asked my age (50) after telling him he said my you look much younger then 50. He said why someone so old?
I said Excuse Me, I’m not sure what you mean… I’m 50 years old and she’s 45 we love each other. She’s not old she’s younger then me.. He said but you can get any woman you want over there. I mean young 18, 19 , 20′s and then he proceeded to tell me about all of his perverted sexcapades he’s had through out the years, with young Filipinas for as little 2 bucks he would have even his filthy toes sucked. by then I had heard enough, got up and walked away. The guy that was telling me that was some old white guy he told me his age 72, but he looked much older. His teeth was a yellowish brown color and I remember thinking Gosh who could stand being with him!
I’m Black American. I met my Filipina and we are still together.. Actually I love her. It’s been a challenge, because of the cultural differences but if you work at it. it’s work out. I’m telling you guys this because I want you to know, that everyone has their own agenda. you guy’s know when you’re going over to Angeles City. You know, you’re not going there to find some church girl, so stop acting shocked when you find out you got beat at your own game! Sure, many are scammers.. but this is the real world! Your dealing with the Philippines… Filipinas are not stupid, so get out of that mindset. stop blaming others for your own mistakes… Take responsibility for your action…STOP SENDING MONEY!!! Catch a Flight and Start living !!!
Well said sir, I applaude your way of handling the old pervert, and think you hit the nail right on the head.
Cheers.
I applaud trust and credibility where it is due; we must never paint everyone with the same brush or stereotype. It also pays to be alert as your first duty is to yourself. Having been scammed myself I found there are trends which could give pointers to the sincerity of your intended lady. If you met her in a chat room where she was modelling and you want to save her from such a life you have to confirm IF she really WANTS saving. There are confirmed models who are out there to earn an honest living as they are poor; however there are other bad-apples who do the honest girls a disservice by scamming anyone they can. Let’s try to avoid disappointment ! A few things to think about are here ….
- the benefits and costs of her moving her kids and herself to a bigger nicer property in a safer area – take care to confirm the old and new addresses
- the trauma about what-will-we-do-with no internet connection during the move – although you will be told there’s no connection when in fact there is. This is for her benefit so she can continue camming during the time you think she is laboriously moving furniture and belongings to the “new” place. Don’t forget, the benefits will outweigh the trauma of moving, then the suggestion of moving to a better ISP provider will be tabled
- don’t even begin to think that the internet connection she had at the “old” property will be transferable to the “new”
- the benefits of purchasing TeamViewer, SplitCam , ManyCam and other applications will be raised in a bid to help her get more custom – but beware – they could be used behind your back
- the benefits of purchasing a bigger better faster pc if it doesn’t already exist
- the benefits of her kids all having their own mobile telephones if they don’t already possess them
- the benefits of setting her up with her own little business [popular here is karaoke, etc]
- the benefits of setting up your own studio in addition to the undisclosed one(s) she already has. This you may think will provide an extra buck or 2 – yes it will, but you won’t see a red cent of it because the employees in the studio will be ones who are controlled by her already and the clients will be other boyfriends further up the league table than you will ever be.
- the explanation you have to offer for chatting with one of her friends without letting her know – even though they are so loyal and networked, they will have chatted about you already. Don’t forget the contact they make with you are not niceties – they’re money extraction methods.
- the reason why her webcam seems to freeze after about 10 seconds and why its always around 10 seconds
- the reason she wasn’t online at her normal time
- the reason she STARTS TO TYPE IN UPPER CASE from time to time – this is to not mistake her chat with you with the other chats she has open
- the reason there is always the same Guest Number in her room – this is simple for you to do too – just create a camsite id beginning with Guest
- the reason there is a mismatch from the view you last saw when her webcam froze to what you see when it restarts
- the reason the chat in her room stops showing or scrolling when you visit it
- the reason her room mysteriously gets disconnected when you visit it
- the situation when you thought you saw her room online immediately after she said she was on her period and wouldn’t be working
- the situation when she asked you to look for something for her on the web and you realize her eyes are everywhere except looking at you – whilst you are looking for that thing on the web she will have taken another Private show
- the situation you realize her hands are typing but you are not receiving any messages
- the reason she opens yet another room when you visit
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This thread is getting longer and longer and what is it solving? I like Bobs letter a few posts back. It shows exactly how things are. What really gets up my nose is that the Philippines think they have a right to expect foreigners to support HER family as some sort of cultural tradition. Let me ask Filipinos how many times do women get pregnant and the Pinoy guys just abandon them, how many Pinoy men are forced to provide for her family be it whatever they can afford according to their financial ability. Foreigners are the banks so therefore they must remit amounts proportunate to their wealth.
No culture has the right to ask someone from another culture and expect them to donate money for anything. Foreigners have their own culture and are entitled to follow their own rules regardless of living here. Foreigners do not support their families and so shouldnt support the filipinas family either. You think Filipinos are poor and thats what gets to our guilt. Well let me tell everyone of you dumb foreigners that Filipinos DONT MIND BEING POOR they were born into it. Why do you think there are so many smiling people here if they are all so misserable? Go to Southern Europe and you will see what misserable people look like. It makes me sick.
So stop being fooled and wake up. Its a free world isnt it, or does the Philippines make its own rules, seems like it does? Unless people are dying from malnutrition like in the famine in Africa I dont give a toss. All this being tied to their families is an excuse the culture has made up and now foreigners believe it to be gospel and play by their rules. Foreigners pay for everything in this country in tripple payments compared to Filipinos and nowadays even love has a price here.
Any culture that has any dignity and respect for itself will NEVER EXPECT MONEY or ASK FOR IT (in the name of tradition).
Filipino women need to have some guts and say to their families, look, my foreigner guy has his own traditions and his tradition says my family is my responsibility. But they wont,do it. Why is a foreigner more interesting to them then a Filipino man? think about it.
http://www.filipinaexpert.com – for foreigner advice
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I have been to your website and sister website and you remind me of the sex mongering idiots that give genuine foreigners looking for love a bad name and promote the idea that the Philippine woman are just something to use and control here is a quote from the website
“Filipina don’t care if the foreigner is fat, ugly, in a wheel chair or old. In fact they prefer such men to healthy young good looking guys of 30-50. We haven’t found a scientific explanation for this phenomenon yet but we are working on it. Filipina are only interested in security for themselves and their family and will commit themselves to a foreigner. You will need to lay down the law and make sure she is not going to be mikling you for more and more money to give to her family which is common here. We suggest you move to a different part of the Philippines well away from her family and relatives in all cases. Never settle down with a Filipina in the same area as her relatives, that way it will be easier for you to control the situation. In all cases if she is too much in whatever such as being too lazy, bossy or demanding just show her the door and get another one.”
lay down the law? control her? show her to the door and get a new one?
and you wonder why the woman take advantage of the foreigner if she can you treat them as if they are cattle and this is how you educate the foreign guy to be! you disgust me and give the rest of us a bad name!
Good comment Dave and I agreed with your opinion and suggestion.
Thank you to shares with us… .
Dave you haven’t seen what goes on here. The truth in the Philippines is stranger than fiction if you havent already noticed then you havent been here long enough. but if you are happy and your other foreigner friends are as well then I am happy for you but accusing us of giving foreigners a bad name, oh please, what are you afraid off, FREE SPEECH? .
I am all for Free Speech! or I would not have commented and everyone has their own version of truth
I have seen what goes on there and I am involved with someone there I have been there to see both sides of the coin and I have been the newb and lost money and heart there. Tell someone to be cautious and educating foreigners as to how they might be scammed is one thing and I and everyone else appreciates it BUT to advertise that it is ok to treat people like I have read on that web page is not ok and the only reason any girl would let someone do that to them is because of the conditions they are trying to get out of are worse and they are not in it for love or a relationship and if you are going to choose a girl because she lets you control her you are not looking for love, a western girl would never stand for it but it sounds like you want us to expect it from them and that is not love and the good honest Filipinas see that treatment and that is what gives the foreigner a bad name you talk about how the pinoys treat the girls there like we should treat them the same way and be no better then them?
that they should expect us to be no better then them? the whole reason they look at us is because they want someone better then them! you want to treat as they been treated?
how about this if you have a girl in the USA how much you going to spend on her as your girl friend/wife a month lets say she no work? 100-200 a month? and if you have a kid? but the idea I see promoted here is they don’t need money? they used to being poor! don’t give them money! but it would ok for a girl in your home country why? because they ever been poor? they aren’t used to it? they have a word for double standard treatment but it eludes me right now
as I said before these is a direct quotes from the website
“lay down the law? control her? show her to the door and get a new one? (as if she is a piece of property)” and this is the pitch to guys thinking about retiring there
they do care about if he can take care of them and their family and how he treats her if not she doesn’t love him and if she does then she will take his side, back his decisions and protect him from the bad elements of her family and or traditions and also “if” you want to educate the foreigner they you should let them know that family is very important to them especially since they have grown up with very little so if you find a good honest girl there who loves and you make her a part of your life “EXPECT” to also make them a part too they will “EXPECT” help from you “EXPECT” money from you if you have extra that is how they have grown up and if you have extra give them something if you don’t or you saving for something tell them you can’t right now and like I said if you are there for love and get a keeper for love she will back and protect you from things.
to all of you guys that read this that are looking for a Pinay as a wife or girl friend you can find a good one and when you do hang on tight and treat her right
but in your search use common sense there are some out there that will take advantage of you and it’s true in your search don’t send them money thats how the bad ones work and the new ones learn how to take advantage. don’t get into a romantic relationship with anyone until you have met them and spent time with them first I know (i really know) it is hard not to but you will be better off the ones looking just for money usually won’t invest the time getting to know you over long time with out a commitment and see money and when you go first time DON”T go and stay in big city’s pick the resorts and tourist places so if you girl no shows you still have a good time and if you make a few friends before you go then you can meet all of them. If you are just going to try to sleep with them you’re a looser in my book and probably haven’t read this far and if u have go back to ur sexpats webpage
Well Said Dave as to be fair the forum is to show a scammer and warn people of certain risks associated with relationships and as i married to a phillipina who is the real deal and alot of guys unfortunately have fallen fowl of finding a true lady and may i add YEP i was scammed to before i found my lady .
The Main content i see is Dont trust by the male and the woman return fire accusing men of using woman and other underlying themes and i dont want to dwell on this as it is not constructve but helps to see the points and is on a whole the forum helps all who read and participate .
Dave your post should promt many views but Im with you as what you mentioned is well so true as men complain about the woman and to be fair you are married to a girl there and well its the package deal guys forget as its the whole family you inhereit .
My case is this , i met my girl 3 times in another country as she was a DH there and I met my girl at a resort when we got serous to reduce the risks of lobbing and hoping and being stranded in a city environment like you indicated , and well she new and we disccussed many items over my first 5 week stay along time back which was she had fears i was one of these ANGLES wankers who go there for there Rand R as i wont say but 70% of germans ? englishman? Usa? and Australian ? and europe guys who venture to angles city go there for site seeing ?and over 50% are married men to i no this as when we once went to dinner there i went foolishly to a restraunt bar and when my girl went to the toilet a guy asked me this ” How is it does she do this BRO? and are you married meet the boys at the bar ? and we just come her to angles because our wifes have headaches and allow us to come here for our sex appetite and every year we come ?? As long as we return back to wife its ok as we keep marriage alive this way ??/ i said ok bro and as he was a drunken middle age FW i declined grabbed my girl paid the bill and ive never been to angles except to the hardware to get materials to fix our home and my wifes mums house also as this shows the men there are a bunch of tossers .
It is for one thing only and is offered to them so they treat and abuse the woman like cattle and it Earks me to think these people are getting easy advantages over desperate woman and what guys forget to in western countrys a Hooker does it for lifestyle and cash to have a status life?? and in Angeles City the girls if you ever talk to them on a of the topic basis and ask about them you will find this underlying content , I do this as i need money for my family and i have a child to my dead beat Bf or Husband who ran away from commitment and got another woman after he made me pregenant ? Yep imagine in the west you do that they will hunt you down and make it stick .
To Help ALL is best and to coin a old Uni proffessor saying of mine is ” Education is not Education unless it is actually discussedand passed on to another and Information passed on to the next generation ” Which makes it Education of lifes experience and helps all involved to grasp the concept and stop the scammers networks .
In my case this was me
1 ; Scammed in a help me and my nature allowed this as she was a thai girl
2 ; Found a girl by shear chance as went to a holiday on a tour to a country were my girl was a domestic helper i bumped in the street when shopping and she helped me with directions with her co worker gf and i then bumped her in a park walker her toddler as she was the caring fo as is her job so said to myself ok well i ask her out to se if she woilld like dinner with me , i waited 5 days for her as she needed the off day and well luckiest thing i ever did was go that park for a clear the head walk
3 : I then Developed a relationship with in a positive sence ” She never asked for money as is a self earning woman and does for her ”
Many guys forget ? a woman who earns her money dont want hand outs , this is why there scammed as the ones on net do this for a living and alot on dating sites are married woman look at there pictures u van see wedding bands and suntan marks as unfortunataly some guys think with the second head than to evalute them first
4 ; When i went back to her some 3 times she new i was serous and said ok we meet family ?? Yep the dreaded one day of turmoil . Men dont like this if not serous is my point as use for sex and run to another as the genuine guy meets and excepts them on any basis
5 ; I been there many times since and the family you marry is all her and all her means strongest bond a man who believes he can remove? and control her? is set for a fall as this is her culture and love is her family as the man and her kids are to , she will side with husband and her kids but her family comes 2nd to her
6 ; Men worry as are they going the family ask for money ? So what ? your family will to if the chips are down too in your own family.
My girl never asks i give freely as i believe a healthy relationship has no limitations and if you try to control your girl and control family its wrong , Thing is i told my wife OK if we are ok and have payed all bills and have extra and dont need to save for a item you can help , She says yes and thanks but we come first then we help them of have to but You must do something for me .THING is men Be warned a shore sign of a skimmer is allways diaster and a new storey ? Is why no the person before you send money and that should be a no brainer as i did it and was scammed this way until i wise up as whenyou go to a internet cafe you can see these scammer woman at the FULL TIME JOB in the cafe with muliple web cam pages saying help me for money a guy in the USA was being skimmed next to me so i wrote on a paper in warning shes scamming you and walked past he closed the cam when seen my help and i hi tailed out of there as there could have been a backlash to me .
7 : her do something for me was this you must learn my languages ?? Yep and because then you no how to say no and will be awake to manuverves of them outside our family ok as my family they dont scam but will hope if they can ask you for money and you help means you will do every time they ask and is why i want you to no how to listen to them and not say zip then say to me in english lets go and NO means NO ,
Thing is i see men complain here? Because they go there and forget the golden rule like in the book the ” Art of War ” which says to no your enemy and keep them close for observation as this means learn the language and understand the culture or atleast no the situation of these faimily or people you meet and if you dont do this whos the fool as you go to a country not knowing what to expect and then come to the forum bitching about the Scams >> I get back to the point isnt education meant to liberate us and help control your risk of being scammed or skimmed as i found once she taught me her language i had a major advantage as i new there lingo and said nothing to them and sat back listening knowing the topics and well helps so much to be able to evaluate from the side lines .
Dave we have all experiences but what you mention in the responce post is so spot on and i wish all who read actually read the content and take note as its best to discuss and help than be negative and intolerant to others and i no we all can jus=dge without realizing were are doing it but hope all the post help the genuine guys and ladys meet there better half
Thanks for sharing your experiences – much appreciated. If anyone is interested in mine you can see the website I made at http://model.ricrip.com/m/index.html
I’m curious about the guys that have a long time relationship, — a couple of years or more, how it developed, and were you dating more than one Filipina for a while.
If so, how you were able to manage to create the breathing room to take your time about finding someone you are compatible with, but avoiding leaving a trail of broken heart?
Here’s my specific info — I’m taking the leap toward retiring to the Philippines soon. I plan on taking a two-month scouting trip, in October to see where I will live. Have already decided that Angeles is too wild west for me. I’ll either deal with the big city — Manila, or settle in Cebu.
I may do my share of mongering, spend a bit of time in Angeles, but besides looking at places to live, and really getting a better feel for the Phils, I’d really like to date two or three Filipinas, with an eye to a LTR in the future. I’ll return to the States after my exploratory trip, but then go back, long term, starting next may.
I have thought pretty specifically of the type of woman I’d like to wind up with — not to young, cute rather than overtly sexy, no children, modern, slightly independent, but not a party girl, sense of humor, intelligent, intermediate English.
My question is not about how to meet such girls– not stressed out about that, but how to date more than one ” serious candidate” without them becoming too attached too early before I have the opportunity to really determine if a LTR is possibility.
As an example, over the net at ACM, I’ve talked to one gal from Bulacan in her late 30′s — definitely cute, talked to her a few times briefly over the phone, and the phone calls went surprisingly well. While meeting on-line isn’t real, — on the surface, she sounds like the type of gal I would definitely like to date and get to know better in person.
One thing I am aware of is that there seems to be two over-riding trends with non bar girls. One is that many of the young ones in particular, but even the older ones, seem to be naive about what it takes to make a relationship. — “Man with good heart.” is nice but that’s pretty simplistic and smacks of wishful thinking. On the other hand, read maybe 100 Filipina profiles over the internet and you will find perhaps 50 of them mentioning two or perhaps three times, they want a man who is “serious, and does not lie.”
I’m not out to scam anybody or rush anybody to bed as a “vacation notch,” I don’t want to date a different girl each night. And I don’t want to rush into anything,
For the few who waded through all this, appreciate any advice you can give about “getting close with more than one Filipina but not too close, till I decide, “yeah, this seems like it would work”
How do you deal with their jealousy. How do you openly tell them your seriously looking, but not ready to jump right away. How do you keep it from getting over complicated?
Much appreciation in advance.
Hi joeschmo
I read post and understand why you think this way and each to there own approach , Ok so dating 3 to 4 woman is well up to you but be upfront and honest as it is better ok to mention you meet others as , i say this have you seen or ever dated a phillipines lady ?? as this is a major hurdle for you as they suffer this non-western woman syndrome do get but not in there degree and level that affects them so much, which you havent seen when there really serous to a potential partner as they are to be fair such loving gf or wife in time but they all suffer a 1 time affliction called the JEALOUSY syndrome hahahahh , as they will hunt you , watch you ,throw pots at you and chuck chairs as get upset at you and i think you get the drift , as there ” Wrath noes no measure OK ” and another thing is familys are tight and protective like the 3 musketeers you do wrong to 1 in clan it becomes a slap in face to family and they all can look for you in smaller towns so have a exit stratergy.
Best to be upfront and tell them and do the correct man approach as honesty wins there heart and discuss this as it will be hard to broach this concept with each girl you choose as each has different personailtys and hope goes ok with them as i would then go and say i am doing this as have been broken hearted before after been so attached to a lady but it ended in a way i wish was better and feel this if mention this upfront wont break hearts as we both no the score .Dont promis to much so reduces issues and ” Good luck ”
Angles is a hovel and if you are serous looking for a good type , head to out of city not manilla or angles pampanga and i would head to cebu and check region and island hop as there are many regional places you will like and rent is cheeper out of citys and woman are not as corrupted by the city i found ok .
Woman who say man with good heart ? Really, every woman wants this but to be fair, i been with my wife and her family long time as when u see family nucleus , it becomes apprarent why as most pinai men are lazy men and if can intimidate the woman to do all work arround house and and the control most earningswhich they gamble or chase woman with from wifes working earnings or just hit the bottle and get drunk and a huge percentage rate themselves like some western tourist who end up in angles city do as there professional playboys who break womans hearts ands then grab another as it is a sport to pinai men ok as this is why the woman say this or mention this context in general posting on the net as alot look for a man outside of country for gold bars living and then some are genuine and it is hard to work out but mostly street wise instinct will give you correct thinking as my tip is meet the prospective girls and assess and get them to travel and no interaction with family until you think ok i need to chech family out as you must and if you do scope them all of them and see if they ask you for cash and items if they do you pretty much no you will be drained financally when live with her full time . Hope helps but honest wins a pinais heart bro so good luck
What make your intention for really getting a better feel for the Philippines?.Is there no other country in ASIAN Country you can feel better place to live in?
Seem that you’re looking trouble in your life joeschmo!!.Read all the comment in this sites.What they are trying to advise to us?.
See is to believed friends!,Good luck for searching a better place to live in Philippines.
Joeschmo,
you seem like a nice sort of guy, most people wouldnt agree with your philosophy of wanting to date a few Filipinas at the same time and certainly the Filipinas wouldnt like that sort of behavior. But I am a man and understand where you are coming from. I have lived in the Philippines and done it all and know the culture inside out.
Contact http://www.filipinaexpert.com and I will be happy to be your mentor and help you on your perilous journey and be there to pick you up if you fall on your face. Its a free service. You know why its free? because Im such a bad person.
hi joeschmo,
just keep your realism and your wits about you. The ways of the honest ones are worth entertaining BUT BEWARE the methods of the scammers know no limits boundaries or rules. If you would like to have my personal thoughts i would be glad to supply them but not on this open forum. !
Hi Joeschmo,
I suggest you have to be honest enough to tell every girl you met that you are looking for real good lady and please tell every lady you dated the truth about meeting several women so they would understand and not expect too much on having a relationship with you.
Most Filipina women are really trustworthy and give their best shots when they are in a relationship, though for some girls also are as bad as you can easily identify her as a scammer or married woman pretending to be single just wanted to met foreigners for short time holiday in nice resorts and a few bucks of dollar.
Bob is right in telling you as not to promise anything since perfect Relationship that is meant for you and your lady will not happen overnight.
I had this first try bad experience about Online affairs and me with a good promising career almost lost the job because of the false promises of the guy i met, who in turn we think was just for a sex tour here in Phils since we learned he had been meeting several girls….(never thought a guy @ 67 will be that bad to trick well behave Filipina women)…it was humiliating, and true, my family had treated him well with all respect and honesty, that with the turn of events we are in the processed of banning him from coming back to Phils…..because he had little respect for Filipina women that he maybe thinks he can just play around with the emotions of Filipina women.
Here in Cebu, we can see a lot of Foreigners meetings cheap girls in the mall coffee shops, as you were relaxed seated in the al fresco resto this girls will come to you with different age level. You can also find very ideal women who are professionals working in the offices and simple smiling sales ladies working in Department stores…i think time and spaces place a very important role to know the right person….just be honest and sincere and you will find it in your heart a good filipina lady for you.
Goodluck..
Sad. Even good filipinas seems treated like a criminal. There’s no option. Well im a filipina with a canadian boyfriend. Im 25 and he’s 32. Any hint that i am a scammer? Lol! Well i never ever tried to ask even a smallest amount of money to my man. I dont need his money. I have a pretty good job as a designer overseas which is enough for me and if i want, can afford a weekly shopping. Anyway i do not shopping a lot, im only just being precise what can make with my salary. I only have a sister and my mom got her educational plan when she was still young. My mom still working as a teacher so obviously she have her own money too. Though my grandma is old enough, blessedly she doesn’t get sick, but again if ever any of the family needs to hospitalize, the health insurances of my mom can handle that. Again, I’m a Filipina. And seems like nobody can think that i don’t need money from my foreigner boyfriend. The scamming accusations always freaks me out that my boyfriend and i will never get a normal life together as people may think something wrong with us and specially ofcourse with me. Lol! There’s a lot of nice filipina out there actually. There’s no bank statement requires to meet them, just a bit of common sense and wise thinking, you can have one. By the way, my boyfriend is a working type class. He honestly asked me if i can wait a few years to have a baby after we get married, i understand ofcourse and promise him that i will help him to sustain our soon to be family. I admit there’s a lot of filipinas scammers, but guys please consider good filipinas out there who’s trying so hard to have a good reputations but misjudged by some victims who’s on my own opinion choose it in the first place. Okay respect for some different cases. Hope you dont get me wrong. Just be wise. Chill!
Dear Ezra and other wholesome and good Filipinas,
The reason Filipino women are getting a bad name is because most of the Filipino bad girls operate out of internet and in online dating sites. The internet is the number 1 first point of contact between western men looking for a potential Asian bride. First port of contact is not feet on the ground, its fingers to the keyboard. This is the Philippine front door and instead you have Filipinas scamming guys and giving the good ones a bad name. There are not many men that have managed to never get scammed online at least in some way and thats an alarming percentage which the government should be looking into because its a crime thats out of control, not just in the Filipines. They seem more concerned about terrorists by spying on our emails instead of concerning themselves with real terrorism. .
This is a crime that is hard to detect or prove and obtain strong enough evidence for ,and too costly to take to trial, and would take a police force the size of the american military to controll. Its not going to go away and its causing the Filipinos a bad reputation which is only going to get worse.
I will repeat that I am not saying that ALL filipinas are scamming on the internet but its a large percentage that are. The fact of the matter is that good wholesome Filipinas prefer their own kind, dont have good enough English and the computer skills to look for foreigners online. Most scammers are spawned in colleges where they are taught by other students in the art of extracting money out of a foreigner, because they are also being supported by one. Its the young women that are mostly doing this but its something that stays with them and they keep doing it all through their lives. I personally know a woman that is doing it as a career for the past 12 years.
Its one of the highest paid careers in the Philippines.
The real victims are the scammed foreigners, who by the way nobody has any sympathy for. Its like these foreigners are not human. They are not represented by a lawyer or by anyone and they all suffer in silence. The next thing you will say is, oh well, they probably deserved it anyway because so and so.
Just for the record I happen to have a Filipina wife that is an angel, I will be the first to say not all Filipinas are bad, but I can tell you that there are not many angels either.
I was scammed out of a lot of money in the beginning 5 years ago as well, through the internet of course, like everyone else, but still pushed on holding on to the belief that they cant all be bad, and in the end I got lucky. I lived in disbelief about human nature and still do as as a result of that. Its a bit like being raped, I cant compare it to anything else. Yet it goes on everyday dozens of foreigners are being raped by these smart young cunning women that justify it to themselves because they are helping their family or whatever.
My point is, that instead of pointing the finger and making an argument which is -
that not ALL Filipinas are scammers (which no normal person would honestly believe anyway).
be a little bit more constructive and less ignorant and put blame squarely where it hurts the most. On your own people. I know you are a proud people but so are foreigners.
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Good feedback Adams….10 of filipinas 8 of them is a Scammers for sure.
So beware of this girl and women!!!.
WOW!!! hahah… well my name is marc and i have a filipina gf since 4 years ago.
she still hasnt visited spain cause a long list of disgraces happent to her
the bill is now at 16.000 euros, and growinng up.
the worse is that i still believe her histories cause i havent got money enough to travel there. i will go there this year ad if i find out all was a scamming i will just kill the whole family with a big shotgun
proud to be spanish, with all our sins, u wont finnd spanish scammers.
unlike phillipines does
Now that you have just told everyone we will know where to find you.
By the way, you can just get a Pinoy to do it, just send him 50 euro through western union and save yourself the airfare cost..
Let me know her email, and i can tell you if she is a scammer. I have a contact at the NBI in the PH
hello Jose / marc,
your would-be reaction is a little drastic and filipinaexpert is perhaps missing the point. Look through the checklist I made when I was scammed and see how many of the items apply to your situation.
Then go to your local airport, fly to see your girlfriend and sort it out in your OWN mind once and for all. The airfare will save you spending ANOTHER 16k !
Here is what you must look for as your first duty is to yourself. There are trends which could give pointers to the sincerity of your intended lady. If you met her in a chat room where she was modelling and you want to save her from such a life you have to confirm IF she really WANTS saving. There are confirmed models who are out there to earn an honest living as they are poor; however there are other bad-apples who do the honest girls a disservice by scamming anyone they can. Let’s try to avoid disappointment ! A few things to think about are here ….
- the benefits and costs of her moving her kids and herself to a bigger nicer property in a safer area – take care to confirm the old and new addresses
- the trauma about what-will-we-do-with no internet connection during the move – although you will be told there’s no connection when in fact there is. This is for her benefit so she can continue camming during the time you think she is laboriously moving furniture and belongings to the “new†place. Don’t forget, the benefits will outweigh the trauma of moving, then the suggestion of moving to a better ISP provider will be tabled
- don’t even begin to think that the internet connection she had at the “old†property will be transferable to the “newâ€
- the benefits of purchasing TeamViewer, SplitCam , ManyCam and other applications will be raised in a bid to help her get more custom – but beware – they could be used behind your back
- the benefits of purchasing a bigger better faster pc if it doesn’t already exist
- the benefits of her kids all having their own mobile telephones if they don’t already possess them
- the benefits of setting her up with her own little business [popular here is karaoke, etc]
- the benefits of setting up your own studio in addition to the undisclosed one(s) she already has. This you may think will provide an extra buck or 2 – yes it will, but you won’t see a red cent of it because the employees in the studio will be ones who are controlled by her already and the clients will be other boyfriends further up the league table than you will ever be.
- the explanation you have to offer for chatting with one of her friends without letting her know – even though they are so loyal and networked, they will have chatted about you already. Don’t forget the contact they make with you are not niceties – they’re money extraction methods.
- the reason why her webcam seems to freeze after about 10 seconds and why its always around 10 seconds
- the reason she wasn’t online at her normal time
- the reason she STARTS TO TYPE IN UPPER CASE from time to time – this is to not mistake her chat with you with the other chats she has open
- the reason there is always the same Guest Number in her room – this is simple for you to do too – just create a camsite id beginning with Guest
- the reason there is a mismatch from the view you last saw when her webcam froze to what you see when it restarts
- the reason the chat in her room stops showing or scrolling when you visit it
- the reason her room mysteriously gets disconnected when you visit it
- the situation when you thought you saw her room online immediately after she said she was on her period and wouldn’t be working
- the situation when she asked you to look for something for her on the web and you realize her eyes are everywhere except looking at you – whilst you are looking for that thing on the web she will have taken another Private show
- the situation you realize her hands are typing but you are not receiving any messages
- the reason she opens yet another room when you visit
It is quite sad that the culture of earning a quick buck or the easy way has not improved among the majority of the Filipinos, and seems getting worse among the youth through the quick acces to technology. I used to work for one of the two major broadcasting network in the country and I used to wonder why there were so many young girls always on the station auditioning to be tv stars, (Ironically most of them half white young girls) don’t they go school? The media itself propagate this mentality, be a dancer for a noontime show earn money quickly why study? “Tell us your pathetic sob story hold your tears in cue and I will probably give a thousand to the saddest one”, the tv host would mock a contestant of a tv show.
What I am trying to say is, these girls learned it from the best scammers in the country , the corrupt society which gives so much value to wealth or show of wealth than education. The politicians that keeps the poor poor, that would not freaking pass the RH bill. I feel pity, anger and frustration that some has to resort to this lowlinessss out of ignorance, poverty and laziness.Nobody is educating them any better. it is a quagmire and nobody can get out.
Agree of your comment Jofelyn…
I have been speaking with a pinay for about a year now. She is always saying her connection is getting cut. How much does it cost to heav internet at home? She also says she is hungry all the time and after I stopped sending her money for food($50 every two weeks) she say she has no food? How much a month does it cost a single person to live comfortably? Yes I know I have been scammed
Please stop giving alms to filipinas so they will be forced to study or earn an honest living. You are not helping the situation in this country.
Please read and share if your truly care about this young filipinas. They need guidance. It is time to change this kind of perception about filipinas.http://jmkhaprawannatellyouastory.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/my-dearest-young-filipina-educate-yourself/
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Everything is very open with a precise clarification of the challenges.
It was really informative. Your website is very helpful.
Thanks for sharing!
rule 1 never send money
rule 2 always meet them in philipines
rule 3 do not date cam girls/bar girls
rule 4 treat them with respect
rule5 do not lie
result happiness
very nice!!! so true…never rush..
Every country have scammers, Sorry some of you fall victims of my fellow Filipina. But not all women here like that. Even in the western part they had. I joining also online dating, but the main purpose finding the one for me. I very much attracted in the western part. Some of their culture. I guess it’s need time to know person very well. When comes involve money issue never entertains them. I don’t have right to judge to anyone them, I do respect everyone opinions. Please don’t be so prejudice. What comes around goes around..You reap what you sow. What matter’s our intentions was true. Use you’re instinct. If woman really like you can gauge her without asking for anything….
in any races if women asking you for something.or money..think about it? same as a man….because if woman really love you even her difficult times she will not ask anything from you. Love can’t be solve, and buy..self respect and trust is important..Use you’re instinct. Take care everyone
Before online dating is helping us finding someone for us. Sad part it was use as bait in many evil thinks. 419 scammers, baiting others to a lured money, human trafficking, sexual exploitation etc……Never send any money from anyone you meet in online. Let them work…or else simplify their needs…live according to their means.
Your means of describing everything in this paragraph is genuinely good, all be capable of easily
be aware of it, Thanks a lot.
If you would like to confirm if they are really single ask them for Cenomar. To verify if genuinely single issued by NSO. If she still hesitate to gave you this. Then about time to think, that she try to cheat you. Be safe everyone
there are many lady boy also, they looks like real woman ask their birth certificate NSO to find out he or she…..Good luck for searching…:-)
This site was… how do I say it? Relevant!
! Finally I have found something that helped me. Thank you!
Hi there colleagues, good paragraph and good arguments commented here, I am truly enjoying by these.
i’m disappointed why you all are so hard on these scammers.. as they are endless source of entertainment and humor.. one could have them endlessly running around looking for their booty.. just don’t take this online anonymous dialog seriously.. They ask for anything…. promise them everything….so please don’t discourage them by using profanity with them in your conversations..
Remember we Have they Want ..so Enjoy ..I do..
Even when you are 100% sure you have identified her as a real scammer – what can you do about it anyway ? Write to the local Burgy Hall ? Write to the Website ? Write to the NBI ? Write an article into a site forum such as this ?
I would say the answer is completely ineffective whichever route you choose.
Writing to the local council is pointless as the corruption begins at the top; the local councillors and police are liklely to be in certain pockets. The girly camsite only cares about revenue generated thus condoning the majority of model action. The NBI can only go on hard evidence. And site forums such as this, although useful are retrospective.where everyone airs their previous scam experience.It is too late then.
Why is there no official Scammers Repository like there is for so many other fraud and vice registers ?
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The problem with scammers is sometimes you get hooked by one real good. I know this for fact. And while I was taking care of a dying parent she was taking orders from her mother back in the philippines to dump me as soon as possible. She now lives with a daddy warbucks who managed to get her, her greencard based on a false claim of asylum after she divorced me to live with him before the conditional phase was done. Right now I am trying to have her removed since I have evidence against her. It is compiled now and all i need is to have it notarized. Hopefully this one deceitful filipina gets thrown out of this country soon.
How are you going to find the right
person if you think everyone is just
trying to use you?