http://www.pointmancebu.com/filipina_scammers_in_cebu.htm
Here is the new Pointman Cebu Rogue’s Gallery, our our very own Scam Artists Central. These are girls, without a doubt, who have proven themselves to be scam artists, by meeting up with a possible (and genuine) mate online, and then kindly separating these unsuspecting, and sometimes a bit naive folks from their money.
The reason we have listed these girls here, rather than on the “Cases” page, is due to the fact that we have obtained large amounts of additional proof from various different government agencies (and other reliable sources), in order to prove true intent to scam our clients, on their part. These are more “professional” scammers, than the typical cases we have conducted, and have placed on our cases page.
Additionally, these scam artists are helping to destroy the faith others have in people throughout the world. When you meet someone online, and you are a genuine person in your heart, it is a horrible thing to be used by the person on the other end of your internet connection. You feel in your heart, they are the “one” for you. However, the only “one” in their minds, are the “one-hundreds” they can steal from you.
And how much did they scam?
http://www.pointmancebu.com/filipina_scammers_in_cebu.htm
PMC Case Date: 12/12/2007
Amount lost: Approximately $8,000 USD, plus
Name: Jackelyn Cainday
DOB: 11/9/1977 – Not confirmed
and
PMC Case Date: 08/30/2004
Amount lost: Approximately $8,000 – $10,000 USD
Name: Jelly Mae Sumagang
DOB: 05/20/1966
and
PMC Case Date: 10/11/2004
Amount lost: Approximately $5,000 USD
Name: Jovenyl Entienza Mangyao
DOB: May 30, 1984
A lot of Filipina scammers don’t need fancy computer skills to spam foreigners, all they need really is to chat with them and concoct of some fake sob story.
http://www.pointmancebu.com/filipina_scammers_in_cebu.htm
I gave her money before i met her, she told me how she did not eat very good food, so I wanted her and her son to eat better. Then her “bad luck” started, I will try and list the problems she had.
Her son got a kidney infection. Hospital stay and medication. She got dengue fever. hospital stay and medication. Because she was sick and in the hospital she fell behind on rent, 2500php for the room.
By this time I was a walking ATM machine with bi weekly withdraws.
My visit was from October 5 to 14, it was after that she would have an emergency every week. Her veggie stand was broke into and they stole all her capital. Of course I’ll help you, you love me.
<Her son> needs English lessons @ 4000php a month (full time wage for part time teaching). She got evicted from her room, so i agreed to rent her a house for 5000php a month. I had to furnish the house, dining table chairs, couch, TV, queen bed, air-con for bedroom refrigerator. I think i gave her over $1000 just for this.
Overnight trip to CDO to get her birth certificate. Lies I am sure. While in CDO at her aunts house, the mp3 player I got for her is stolen. <Her son> gets bit by a dog. Rabies shots that cost way too much. 3, then 4 of them.
Her Lolo is sick and in hospital, he can pay all but 8000php of his bill, lolo will pay me back in January when he sells a lot in town.
Her trip to Cebu is where she got robbed.
It is really such a pity when Filipinas resort to such things. To think, sometimes the amount they ask is practically loose change from a foreigner. If I were a foreigner or even a Filipino living abroad, I really wouldn’t mind helping out a poor Filipina who keeps me company over the webcam regularly to relieve me from my problems and stress. And no, I will not ask sex from her.
My girlfriend has an internet cafe. Her top customers are:
a. Kids who play network games in between classes and after school; and
b. Filipinas, usually young to late 30s, who like to webcam. If they aren’t mothers talking to their spouses abroad, they are women try to snag foreigners.
If I’m not mistaken, at least 2 people have already found the “love of their life” online.
Many of these women have a healthy cashflow from these foreigners. 100 – 300 USD goes a long way back home.
hi may i see the picture of your girlfriend.. did she scam y
you too .. i hop to get you reply
Damn straight especially in Angeles City!!!! Ana tobero….. Webcam flip whore!!!!
I like to talk to you about the filipino scam,My husband recent been a filipino scam. He talk to her on line 4 months ago or may be more. He fall in love with her and think she love and support his dream future. He wants divorce me for 21 years old marriage. He went to meet her and her family. He think they are the honest person. I told him how the honest person know he are marry still want you. I texted her she texted me back wish both of us good luck! He also think she speak very well english. She only older than my daughter 3 years of age. She is 24 years old. My husband is 51 years. We all told him she just scam him for coming to US. My husband was in Phillipines that time message my daughter she wants green card. But my husband is blind by LUST LOVE by her. Everyday day and night they both chat online on Facetime. I would like someone experiece the same scam can talk him. Make him realize that he can’t just through his family life away.He been send her money every month through western union for $105 us money. Please help me if you can. Thx
Yeah, they’re everywhere.
i have to agree there everywhere I was one of the lucky ones I guess cause I meet my wife of 12 wonderful years online here in Philippines u can find but its hard and far between. There one thing that is true here if they ask for any kind of money never send it cause it is a scam if there tell u a story like my son is sick or hurt of I been kicked out of my place ect. when u send her money 90 precent chance she has a bf she take care of with ur money that ur sending also the girl will be there to pick u up with her husband or bf but she will make up a story and tell u that’s her friend or brother while u the unexpect person is in the dark while they r planning to robe u or planning to scam u with out u knowing about it and also some of the girls here once u have no money for them they will go find another person to get money from.
khin this message is for u- if u think ur husband is being scammed by this young girl here is a couple of things u can do
! if u love him give him time to find out him self what his mistake is and let him learn from it and u decide to let him back or tell him to leave
2 if u decide to let him back do not trust him because if he thinks he got away with what he did before he will keep doing it
I hope any information I gave can help u with ur problem
Thank you Dell. He left and stay with her in Manila. What they been doing keep posted daily life in you tube ( doug and margie fitness couple in philiipines) instead of focus on what he wants before. The more he hurt me make me strong. I got 100% support from all his friends,my kids friends and family. He got no one support him at all. He lost respect from everyone. He lost his job too. Her cousin even said if she educated should know what is right or wrong not involve married man and destroy the family. Like you said he will get dump once the money run out or she get her green card and she will look for the young one. She suppose to get fiancé visa to German in 2012 but she was pregnant by her unknow boy friends in Phillipines. Her cousin said no one know who is the father of her child. In 2013 boy friend 55 from London. 2014 she got my H 52 and told him that she love him and dedicated her life to him and support his dream. My H fall for her lust love and blind side from her . She is a smart scammer.
that’s unfortunate. one really must be wary, especially online. then again, let me just add that scammers are everywhere, in the philippines, as well as probably every other country out there.
Well, this is what it amounts to: these same types of young Asian gals in their 20’s don’t want to date older guys in America. I know that from reading the ‘love wanted’ ads LOL Anyway, many of them probably think older guys are only for money. Would most guys give a lot of money to a women they were dating in their own areas? I doubt it. Why? It’s our money. Not theirs. If a guy has to give a gal money to ensure that she will be his gal, then she’s not really that interested in him in the first place. At least not for the right reasons.
I wanted to add that I don’t consider a gal to be my girlfriend unless there is some closeness and affection which requires that we are together as a couple. I’m referring to holding hands, hugging and kissing. If she’s not interested in it, then I’m honest enough with myself to realize she’s probably not that attracted to me. Being honest with oneself is a good way to avoid the problems that would increase over time in a bad relationship.
The first rule for the internet is to never send money to somebody you only know on the internet.
These filipina ‘scam/beggars’ are abundant on the internet.
You will run into many apologists for them…
‘they are starving’
‘they can’t find a job’
‘the country is corrupt’
etc.
A majority of ladies do this because it is easy to do, and it offers a higher income possible than a poorly paying local job, if they can find one.
Common reasons they need money?
School, medical expenses, burial expenses for relatives, travel to another city for exams, job hunting, or to visit relatives, food, rent, and the ever favorite ‘if I had a PC at home I could chat with you ALL the time and I had a cam you could see me naked!’
Don’t send money!
The sucessful pinay scam/beggar has several men on the hook, sending monthly support money, each in an amount far higher than needed for the local economy.
One more thing, some of these ladies are married, some are LADYBOYS, and some are porn cam girls on a break, and trying to create extra income.
Hey is there a way to find out if you got a hooker or scammer? I have a friend that is hooking up with a gal and he is so naive. He sends her money and goodies and they invite me to chat so i know alot about her. How can i find out. She just aint right and he is gaga. She told him that her boss husband is a lawyer and he could do all the paper work but he had to send his birth certificate. i didnt know until after the fact. Please feed me some information to help my friend. He is a semi wealthy guy.
thanks a bunch!
I don’t think he should give his birth certificate, if she is a scammer, she might be able to make some identification papers with your friends identity from those. You said that her boss husband is a lawyer? What is he courting her for, if he knows she’s married?
Is the woman your suspecting a filipina? If she is, i guess the best person to contact would be the person who made I quoted from.
http://www.pointmancebu.com/contact_pointman_cebu.htm
Unfortunately I also learned the hard way about filipina scammers. But in my case I met her “Kaye” locally.
Although she was highly educated in the Phils and was here on a two year work visa, her old ways did not stop when she landed at YVR.
She was and still is the epitome of what we all dread when trying to avoid these woman.
And even more sad….her group of several friends here in Vancouver all do the same.
Personally, I was not out a lot of money, but the emotional impact was far worse to me and my family.
Did or does she care about the several men she is intimate with? No. The money and electronics she sends home to mom and dad supercedes and feeling of regret or shame.
Would I trust another “filipina”? I don’t know, and I really hate myself for the feeling of lumping them all in the same category now.
dont trust any of them Go there for a holiday & meet beautiful girls, its so easy no matter what you look like. Take them to the hotel & have sex with them then dont contact them again. That way you wont get hurt or fleeced. Filipina women are cheap & sexy but not to be trusted. They will give you great sex, but make sure you get the sex before you pay them or they will have your money & you probably wont get your sex.
You’re an asshole for saying that. Fuck your opinions. You can’t blame the whole nation of the Philippines for your stupidity. And Pinays are not cheap. They are the best people I have ever met.
I agree with your reply! if there are people on here that only want to “Holiday and Have Sex!” then I hope you get scammed you deserve it! and you also give the other foreigners like me a bad name. I and many like me got scammed because we let our heart and kindness make the choices for us we want to believe and trust but a “FEW” bad apples out there take advantage of us. I have learned and everyone else will to especially those who learn from us and sites like this I wish I would have come across it earlier in my search for love but then I wouldn’t have met the one I am engaged to now but that’s another topic deeper thought lol
Dave your a tool wake up!!!! They are nothing but cheap sluts who don’t know how to say no!!!!!! If you think or even begin to think otherwise you will get eaten alive!!!!!! Especially hotel staff they are deadset scam pro’s!!!!
what was kaye second name
dont trust ever any filipina , never means never to any …. they have alot of excuses that not all five fingers r the same , im not like others , blah blah blah…..just dont trust any of them
There is a great mix of both scammers and girls wanting to meet guys for real relationships.
It’s really not fair to mix all of us in the same category.
I worked on the cam sites, and gave service for every peso I earned.
But I know the internet cafes are full of girls, many who have Filipino boyfriends, but know they can earn money just chatting with guys.
Thank god that is just a small group of the girls in the internet cafes.
If you really want to meet a good Filipina, then the best way is to ask a Filipina that is here in the USA, already. We all have friends back home, and would be excited to help you meet someone nice.
Take care,
Leslie – The Hot Filipina
bitch, once you’re in the u.s.a. you stop being “filipina”. you can’t have it both ways. you’re either American or or filipina. and once you start living in the u.s.a., your u.s. identity supersedes your pinoy one. stop making excuses for your disgraceful golddigger countrywomen. you are merely the exception that proves the rule.
Hi,
Iam a filipina, i have a good job and is stable here in the Philippines and looking in the net for a white husband…why white and not local? because i have kids and i know that most western guys dont look at the past unlike local men. and most white guys are sweeter and gentleman. ive been in a dating site for a very long time, i chat to men there and i never, not even once, asked money from them..but having scammers around the net maybe the white guys are being cautious now and they think that all filipinas looking for a husband in the net are just after their money..
Hi, how are you? Can you email me a picture? My email is alwaysa_real1@yahoo.com.
of course you are just after his money, why else would you want to meet him. It makes no difference how old he is or what he looks like so it must be money. I live in the philippines & i know what you sluts are like
Hahaha….you make me smile peter of comment posted!.Thanks of the comment..its so touching and no doubt of it…haha!!
so true peter , appriciate u 🙂
its simple as that,do not beleive easily of what the girl says to you about their family problems,cuz first,its nt ur obligation to support her or him.so dont send any money to them.
It’s so sad to hear about these stories. I do hope this won’t discourage foreigners from settling or even visiting the Philippines. Surely, these scammers give the Filipinas a bad name. But what comes around goes around. They won’t achieve anything by fooling other people. Hope I could help do something about this.
To all who have been scammed, it’s difficult but I suggest you don’t send any money to anyone you meet online. This is easier said than done. But I hope I can do something to stop this.
Thanks much.
i have american bf for 7 months i never asked him money so this coming july finally i can hug and kiss him for real! wish me luck guys!
Yeah you probably say you work in hotel but really you do dildo shows on your webcam!!!!!
man do i have a story for you. i met a girl on filipinaheart.com. my friend who served in the marines in subic bay before the base closure. she seemed really funny and sincere, i met her. her friends were nice the first visit. she told me her nanay gave her interntet money daily to find a nice man, she also said her nanay fed her three times a day. i seen their living conditions, so i helped them. in total a 4wheel drive muilti cab, refer, washer, dryer, and about 25 g’s, plus some. sold my home, left my job. in the end after i ran out of money nanay rallied the villiage, who made anti american remarks since day one, even from the church president, the villiage made death threats to me. the local bank metro bank sent me a pamphlet for a payment plan for a casket. i bought a parcel form nanay and built a new house there, in order for me to buy a plane ticket i needed to loan out on my house. my wife told me the deed was in the mail, it wasnt. its worse than this. the us. embassy in manilla called me a liar, and wouldnt help. come to find out nanay was making my wife sleep with others for groceries, even after all the help. no money no honey. good luck if you go there, learn for your self. p.s. the police hate you the same.
I believe all you say. i was also a victim but realised it after 152,000pesos.
well she just raked in another foreigner whom she said bought her a house even after my warnings to him via his email. If he is scammed then he deserves it.
Vanessa soho?
Vanessa soho/Sabrina chua married a marine is that you?
Or Nerissa Chua?
also i read some where the legal age for sex is 12 for female. i seen what i thought to be a 13-14 year old gilr 8 months pregnant. my tatay told me brothers and sisters is a filipino culture. i have noticed my wife, and her sister having sex with their father. my wife came out of the bedroom pulling up her sweat pants, with her father still in the bedroom. to the applaud of nanay “mother” and several aunts. well, im glad they could lie to me, and take advantage of me the whole time i was there. why should the bother go out, and show his skills as being a decent man, and person to find his own mate, when nanay calls all the shots. sleep with your brother, all he has to do is ask mother, do it or she will be raped. three years worth living in a remote villiage will tell alot. they all speak english, main source of income. like getting a high school diploma learning english.
What country are you from?
I have spent many years in the Phills and have friends there who have lived there over 10 years with their wives. I know the country and the People and I can say without a doubt, that your story is colorfully flavored with copious amounts uf Bull Shit. The law is 18 years old or it is statutory rape, and I have never once seen a case of incest, I have filipino friends who are police officers and can tell you that they would take action against such a person immediately.
My suspicion is you have done something or several things to wear out your welcome.
you have to be careful about being alone in a room with any young girl as if they just make an allegation of rape without any proof you are put in jail with no bail. When you pay her off they will drop the charges. You have been warned. I suggest if you take youg girls back to your room for whatever purpose you secretly video with sound all that happens then you can be freed without paying.
for someone who lived in the philippines many years you dont know shit
heres from the filipino laws from 2000 to current 2016
The Age of Consent in Philippines is 12 years old. The age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity. Individuals aged 11 or younger in Philippines are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape or the equivalent local law.
all filipinas are whores. stay the hell away.
It’s Nice Post, keep posting and have a nice day… 09:12
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Hi guys,
I’m in trouble. I feel I’m a foolish man. I’ve helped my pinay gf with a lot of things ranging from her families problems to rebuilding her families house. I traveled to her home last March and met her whole family. I thought because i met her family and was introduced to the village i was pretty safe. After reading all of your posts I guess i’m not safe at all. I’ve had many clues but have brushed them aside giving my gf the benefit of the doubt. What a dope. Thousands of dollars later… I’m going to the philippines in November again to meet her. I’m hoping for a resolution to my misgivings and fears. One way or the other and i’ll have peace of mind.
hi, daniel. i’m wondering how the visit went. i’m kindda worried about you, lol.. and i’m worried about how you would look at us, Filipinas, after your visit. she might not be a scammer but i’m sure she is a pan handler..
I had a 4 year relationship with a filipina I met on line. I helped her out a LOT along the way, too. I did go there (from the U.S.) and met her for real. Had a great time, too. She was married before and needed an annulment. I helped with that but ended up being a scammer attorney. I forgave it. Later I helped her start a rental business. Then, I saw pictures of her at a resort dated the time she said she was moving to a new place. I called her on it. She made excuses. Finally, luckily I have other long-time friends near her and I had them pose as a renter. She did not respond to them like she was renting. I told her I know all these things and she got upset and disgusted. Yeah, I used thousands of dollars in total over 4 years. When I met her, she was very affectionate the entire time. I never felt used – also she never asked for expensive things like scammers often do. I think she is a professional pan-handler. Needless to say, I split from her but on friendly terms. NEVER will I send her another dime.
Hello Daniel,
A good way to tell if she is sincere is, how does she treat you? when you call does she answer right away? granted there will be some things that may prevent this. Also does she talk about a friend alot, but is vague as to whether it is a male or female friend? does she lie to you? scammers tend to be quite the liars, to the point where they contradict themselves.
I wish you the best. Another Daniel…lol
daniel my friend they will all lie to you collectively. Thats what they are like. Its your money they want. Whilst you are away she will be sleeping with her boyfriend or boyfriends & all the village will protect her. He will be introduced to you as a brother or a cousin or a family friend. They will all be laughing at you behind your back. Go there for a holiday but dont meet up with her just meet as many girls as you want, its easy & you can get as much sex as you want with no ties, but dont get conned as they will all try it. Dont trust pinoys as forget their religion they are a race of liars cheats & thieves
I guess after visiting the Philippines i’ll be totally prepared for India
Even if your Filipina gf marries you for real, it doesn’t mean she’s any less of a gold digger. She’ll just need a permanent and legal provider of everything.
But most girls are gold diggers in different gradation anyway. Choose the one you can manage.
my mom is an expert when it comes to choosing dining tables, she is always after durability and style ;::
Some rules better always remind
Average monthly salary in Philippines is 4000 pesos/ month! It is good enough for living so PLEASE count,..90USD/ 65€!!
Date in Asia.com ,.many scammers will first built the trust and after few months,.attack. Burned houses,.ill relatives, schooling problems, so on,.. so on…
Honest devoted Filippina will never ask money any circumstances.
90% Filippinas in dating sites are looking for better life and providers,.10% are looking for love and romance.
Age won`t matter,..outlook neither as far western man got thick wallet and generous mind.
Many girls in dating web sites are already married or into deep relation. You are NOT onlyone.
i was in dateinasia and was looking for a true partner.i eventually found one, didn’t ask money and whether you believe it or not, i really loved this Australian man even if he’s a lot older than me. he’s 62, im 23, i never ever asked him money. but still, faithfulness was never a guarantee to make our relationship stay forever.i was innocent then, gave my all and trusted him.
why do you go for Filipinas who earn 4000 pesos? oh yeah, i get it. you find these girls sweet and really hot.
why not go for Filipinas who earn at least 5 times more than your 4000 pesos earner hot girls? oh yeah, i get it. they would not date you.
and why do you give money to your Filipina hot girls and their families? they are not your responsibility.. if they were decent, they would be working their asses off and not showing their assess and all to you..
and by the way, if you are 50+ big bellied white guy, don’t expect your 15 year old sweet innocent looking little tiny teeny brown girl to love you.. Filipino teenagers like Korean pop idols, not hairy big bellied white men.
and stop whining about being scammed. you are adults. you should have been mature enough to figure out what was going on.
ms.disgusted pinay you seem to be a scammer protector and defender. What the hell are you talking about? How many Filipinas are there on an average who earn 5 times the money than a white guy? And half of your silly disgusted country is poverty stricken and 90 % of all of them are scamsters. You live off others backs like parasites as you filipinas lazy people want easy money from foreigners. All ya foreigners should stop coming to philippines and then your country’s economy will crash as your economy depends on tourism the most.Then you will go back to stone age.
Great point disgustedpinay. Just to add to that, other Filipinas earn less than PhP4K monthly like the yayas or the maids. I feel for those who think that they were scammed, it is sad but our fellow Filipinas have their own economic reasons for doing so. And I hope that foreigners who are looking for Filipina girlfriends or just anybody who would like to go to dating sites are old enough to understand what they’re getting into. And it would definitely help if you all know your REAL reasons or intentions for joining these sites. GOOD LUCK to all in finding your true love and BEST WISHES to those who have found theirs:)
This also is not always true. The big earners tend to be in the Metropolis areas, they have more of a western atittude than that of the Provincial girls. I have seen here in Canada Many filipinas who have married older men and come to canada and had a very good marrage.
I have also seen many who have moved here from the Phils and have married much older men here, even though they had good jobs and citizenship. My own wife is much younger than me, but her ex-b/f is a PNP Officer who is a couple years older than me, but sadly was not a faithful man.
Many women in more traditional areas of countries and the world feel that there is a great advantage to marrying an older man. The website filipino cupid has been mentioned here often, I have even seen younger filipino/American women, some born in the US that seek older men. A lot has to do with the way they are raised.
My own sister, a white girl, married at 26, a 53 year old man, she made much more money than his public service job gave him, but she fell in love with him because of the way she felt truly loved, appreciated and treated well by him.
i dont know what kind of work those people you mention who are having an average salarry of 4000 pesos/month. when I started working i was earning 8,000 and that is the startig sallary in the company where I work. I was undergraduate so I guess thats the reason too, after graduation I transfer to another company and the starting is 12,000. 8,000 – was back in 2004 12,000 had it 2006, I heard these days just like my sister who just started working her starting sallary is 16,000. so if starting sallary is that amount how can it be that the average is 4000/month….(sorry but I just dont know where did the 4000/month came from.. or maybe these are the sammers information that they feed foreign people… well I dont know I am just a bit confused
The lowest is 8,000 (less tax would make it 7,700). the minimum wage for the province is 320 pesos per day how much more in the city. (city wage are higher)
not unless the stablishment, company they are working is not following the rules then maybe you could be right.
Your figures are very interesting but you viewpoint is undecerning. These wages can be made in Manila, however the cost of living in manila is also much higher than the province. Not to mention you were educated, most cannot afford to be educated. Many come from large families who live in Bamboo shacks with dirt floors and many mouths to feed.
Most of my inlaws work for a very large American company on a banana plantation, my father inlaw has worked there for 25 years, and they only make
5000 a month. He did his very best to raise his 3 step sons and 7 children. (thank the Catholic church for that). I look at the way he works so hard at his age, and has never asked for a penny from me, to me he is a hero.
Never judge a person or people unless you have walked a mile in their shoes.
most filipinas depend on ofw’s to send them money or foreign boyfriends. The other big earners arnt actually big earners they are people cheating the system , the corrupt officials. The average person has very little money & struggles every day. If you are a foreigner i say take advantage of these beautiful young girls with sex. They will do everything but you must pay them. Dont expect them to be faithful, they will say they are but filipinas lie so easily, but they sound very genuine people.
hi there
does anyone know if a man wants to marry a fil girl, is visiting them a mandatory requirement? Are there any exceptions? a friend of mine has been supporting (like a queen) a fil scammer and he says he is NEVER going over there. He has gout bad and will not go to a third world country.I have heard that it is mandatory. He gives her about 800 a month if you add it for 2 1/2 years. he knows she may never come and that she could be scamming him. he dont care. he has no heirs and enjoys her company and helping her. she has her hand out 24/7.
she makes he feel young, desired, and needed.. you can’t blame him. he’s is lonely and she is starving.
Filipina bashing!! I wonder why a foreigner like u guys choose a pick up girl instead of a decent woman.. I dont believed to a foreigner now a days i known a foreigner who do a barhopping and choose a pick up girls instead to me lol im only 21 I wondering why i don’t still have a bf despite the fact that im pretty, sexy educated yes im finished my bachelor degree in college i already have a licensed and i work in a medical field im not ugly. I join few site of dating but i realized i don’t get anything to those site.except to a cheaters and a liar men. My ideal guy before is a foreigner becaused i think they are nice guy but it change a lot when i know the reality here’s the fact! They did a filipina bashing once they get hurt they dont blme theselves they blame all filipina 2nd. They always choose a pick up girl in cebu, angeles, subic.etc They always do a bar hopping.. Instead to find a nice girl.. They dont realized that those picky girl love only their money.. They dont need to do those things they only get std.. They just ruin their life to the wrong purpose. Hope all foreigner know how to use their time to the right one please dont choose a pick up girls, cheap and bar girls!
ms.rose. i totally am in agreement with you that most of the foreigners are characterless cheap guys who come there to find girls for their pleasure and as they feel filipinas are easy to get.But i can also tell you filipinas also are equally desperate for easy money too and play and pretend with these foreigners by posing as really true honest girlfriends and later scam them and i’m sure you are not so naive that you don’t know that these filipinas behaviour.You know ms.rose i feel this is a classic case of demand and supply as how you study in economics. filipinas need easy money and white guys need their cheap filipina sex dolls for their pleasure so who is to blame? I think both of them. Sorry to say but you have to admit that filipinas are all looking for easy money and there might be one in a million who might be honest filipina. I always wondered why filipinas always dated white guys and want to marry them and not a local filipino? do u have an answer? Well, let me tell you the answer is pretty clear the reality is many filipino on an average don’t get much income and many are also jobless and some are also lazy dependent on their families to feed them while they relax at home.That is the reality. So i think you should be fair in your perception on foreigners and also accept that your country is fast becoming notorious for scams by filipinas.I urge all filipinas to get a life and stop living shamlessly on foreigners back by scamming them and i also urge all the cheap characterless white guys and arabic guys and the japanese guys to introspect your innerself and have some self respect guys.stop looking for cheap sex and pleasures in the philippines. and if u r really that desperate for sex then go find girls in your own country and not look for filipinas as cheap sex tourist spot in the Philippines.
i dont think saying that all filipinas are looking for easy money. I can prove that not all of us are like that. I am educated in a good school and I am working almost 12 hours a day I earn my own bread.
and my reason why I am looking for a western guy for possible (sorry should be was) relationship is because I am a single mom and locally most man is not open to the idea of marrying a single mom. If only I have a choice I would go date a local guy but that is so hard for me (though right now I am still hoping to have my luck)
At least a balanced and honest response from my experience, too.
Hi Rose , Im genuine guy , I first joined a Dating web site, thinking ah well this will be a good way to meet a nice lady and the reason why is ‘ I will not never look at a Loud mouth Big Bum Western woman again” Because they are so much into ‘Look At me ” So i joined one ok and i will admit ok i personally like philli woman ok, But all men I have been scammed once money just helping a person as i was genuine to help ” My trap” was me being stupid , But i will say ok i found a woman who can be on net most time of the days is a “SCAMMER ” ok if you work how you have time for net? or chat? if working?? well besides that this is my Observations of dating chatrooms ok , the one woman who flirts may not be a scammer but edging there bets for mens interests , And i found when you research alot of Pinai woman in America who are not with there husband? comes down to they did get more than he was willing to give? and any way is a view ok , and men who sell up and move there as Xpats seem to get the last true pinai complex woman , which is the true pinai lady she may get jealous and loving at the same time , its the real woman . I personally found Ok chat rooms have woman who are so false? Example than the Woman in a chat room all day hoping for a dumb arse foreign man to come meet them in pinai? which is another trap to i suggest if yyou go to meet a lady always have a escape plan ok as she will to and dont freely buy things as when you do this to a phinai woman you show your hand to quickly . And for guys who dont no a chatroom this is best way i found .
Go to room say little at first and watch the ones who make drama and talk apolute rubish and say of money or i need a Fafa ? watch ok and look at ones who say little as i found they are in the same boat working out the genuine ones to the ones who just go to pass time and use you up for chat , best to watch and learn and see the games woman do and there woman” Friends group is a good indication on them” as they will be crafty and yous the Sister Hood to fool You too so best to find woman who is not affilated to woman sis groups ok as You have 50% beter chance .
Sorry to say ok but there are some bad net woman and guys to so as i did work the system and watc to find a genuine person my method maybe not ok , but im engaged to a pinai ” Miss Average” she tells me she not good looking but to me WAAAA she is to me and she works in hong kong and is not false and works to keep her family ok shes never asked me for money as she believes she can make her own way and its disrespectful to her to ask when she doesnt need help when we holiday she will pay her own way there and bills i truly happy but to find her was i may say a very hard daunting task because as i have just indicated above Love is hard , but worth finding.
DO U KNOW HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH ? WHY ARE YOU KEEP SAYING OK OK ? ANNOYING……
YOU ARE SUCH A LOSER
Hi Rose,
I have lived in the Filipines for 4 years. I am an Australian male. You ask why dont these foreigners go and look for other girls other than bar girls ? Where do you suggest we find normal women? If a foreigner approaches a woman and chats her up she will only pretend to like him. Normal women dont like to be seen walking down the street with a foreigner because the taboo in the Philippines will label her a prostitute. If he manages to get past that problem and she is still with him then some family member will try and tell her how she should manipulate the foreigner for financial gain. Foreigners if you dont know are seen by Filipinos to be used and abused. If Filipino attitudes changed you would see more normal type of relationships. You are in the extreme minority and thats only because you have had a taste of Foreigners and learned something. The rest of the Filipino society think foreigners are stupid, over sexed walking cash machines and even your laws support that. Foreigners end up in the bars and with prostitutes because the normal women all have a negative view of foreigners. In fact its so negative that we are ignored. I have stood at counters in shops and refused to be served. Filipinas even avoid eye contact with me in fear that I may chat them up and someone may see them with me. You are all pathetic and ignorant. Now we are Filipina bashers. Try living as a foreigner here for 4 years. Its only the bad women and women with bad agendas that seek foreigners. OK there are a few that are so innocent and normal such as yourself but you are very very rare.
Hello Rose,
I am a foriegner married to a lovely pinay lady. We are not all liars and cheaters, just keep your faith and a good man will happen by one day. But always remember that these guys that go bar hopping looking for pick up girls, are really not worth your effort anyways.
If they put a price on a womans body for self gratification, then they are bad men anyways, if they come on sites and bitch that these girls ripped them off, well they used her body like buying meat, showing no respect or care for as to why some of these girls have even resorted to that life. If they get ripped off, good for them, they deserve it because they get used right back the way they are using these girls.
Remember a good man would never even look at a filthy woman like that, you are obviously a good and well moraled young lady, keep faith and one day a good and decent man will come your way. And as far as money goes, My wife was very poor, but never once asked me for anything. However a good man cannot stand by and see the ones he loves live in poverty. I have since bought 3 motorcycles for the family, built them a mini market that is doing very well and a lovely new home. Why, because I love her and her family so much, How could I not help out a family that has become mine?
daniel see what happens if your money runs out. You are a fool, ive been married to a college professor for 9 years & she does nothing but mentally abuse me, soon she will get her come uppance. Im in the planning process right now, in the meantime i will have sex with as many of these young sluts who allow me & believe me there are so many off them. They will pretend to love you for a paltry 500p per week, see them once a week use them & they will do everything. i dont respect filipinas as they are all lying thieving scum.
Hi Rose, I was wondering if you could help me out. It s concerning a girl from a dating site , i ‘d love your feedback . if you can help, please let me know here: nomad11178@hotmail.com. thank you!
I hope you are genuine rose and that you find yourself a good man but only if you are a good woman;)
Hi to all,
I’m a Filipino and I never scammed anyone. In fact, I was the one scammed by a Nigerian who posed as an American army guy. He got money from me and I was really angry and felt stupid for my naivete. I had read stories and articles on this topic but I never learned from them. I was too ‘lovestruck’ to this guy. People can blame me for my stupidity. I admit it. I almost gave up my faith in humanity at that time.
My heart goes to all the people around the world who had been scammed. Who could blame us? We just wanted to find someone to love and cherish and be loved and cherished in return. I am now back on my feet. I did not give up on humanity because I know there are still good and honest people out there online who wanted to meet good and honest people too.
It really pays to use your brain not only your heart when meeting people online.
Cheers
Thanks a lot for this post. Its good medecine to read i was not the only one.
I have been scammed as well and honestly said i made it quite easy for her to scam me. So both sides are to be blamed. Me leaving the door wide open, her for taking the occassion. Fortunately i found her youtube channel registered under another name where she was posting her romantic in-love movies with her filipino boyfriend (published from the computer i bought for her). It took me some time and power to admit that i was the victim of my fantasy.
At the end i dont regret so much the loose of money but the waste of time i could have invested in much better projects.
Still hoping for a good heart out there.
hi heinz….probably its really important for two people to be together ..distance is a problem with online love…TRUST AND RESPECT ARE VERY IMPORTANT….i had my sad experience and i dont wanna be there again.
hi clarenze, yes this is true. She was still contacting me aftewards but it is hard to find confidence in somebody far away because you never know if it is true what she is saying.
When I met her I really was believing what she told me about her and her family. And many details were true. But by occasion I found out what she didn’t tell me and this was quite irritating.
But it is a good lesson for life as well.
i believe one has be very vigilant and careful enough about online dating…but im possitive that each and everyone had special someone reserved..hehehe..for now, im just keeping my fingers crossed ( and my legs crossed)…now and forever..lol.
sometimes when we hurry love it falls into the ravine, that it will just give us so much pain…….so better safe by just waiting…but also praying for it to come at the right time and at the right place.
HI HEINZ…i have my own story below..just subscribed right now….and im coping up still with the loss..but anyway, real “love will come someday” as the songs goes…lol
Yes I’m singing this song everyday under the shower hehehe
hahahaha..that song is one of my favorite from David Sunborn…lol
now i can sing it back too…in the shower..or in the beachline im going to be this easter holiday to heal my broken heart…lol..im not only going to sing it…im going to shout it…lol
now you make me go to you tube and listen to the song…lol…nice talking with you here..
Happy easter time and keep on laughing and shouting finger crossed hehe
…that i will..
and if i saw him there, i will light a fire under his butt…lol
happy easter.
jca you are a liar as no filipina has money. None of you would send a single centavo to anyone so go away & stop lying. This is exactly what pinoys are like. They are a race of liars & thieves & they all know it. They dont trrust each other as they know the others will steal from them as they also would steal.
Daniel.
WOW what an incredibly educated and thouroughly researched comment made on intimate knowledge of this person and in wisdom and experience. You come on this site with a user name like, it’s me?? what a coward, then you insult and make accusations calling people fools and liars? So I guess I can assume that you have met all 96 million people living in the philippines and the others spread out throughout the world working hard to support thier families?
It seems to me that you are simply a uneducated, narrow minded racist, so filled with hate that you cannot even see how ridiculous you make yourself look. If I had to guess, I would think you are probably one of the many fools who fell for a bar girl or cam girl…..HMMMM she will sell her body for money but I can trust her….DUHHHHH, there is no such thing as a hooker with a heart of gold, just after your gold. There are millions of unscrupulous people all over the world from every nation. If you go looking for your sweetheart on crack alley, metropolis USA, how smart does that make you? then to blanket an entire nation as having the same moral fibre??? Pretty Racist and pathetic.
Guy’s like you come through a site without an identity insulting and talking out the top of their hats like they know it all, making uneducated blanket statements are a dime a dozen. Racism is stemmed from ignorance, and you sir are a poster child for the ignorant…Bravo.
Dont you just love Karma……..so funny….
.payback is so sweet….
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It is hard to deny the beautiful nature of the asian woman.It is something which many men find lacking in western society and what is probably what attracts us the most. Why is it that we assume that it is only in the east which we find the scam occuring? In many ways it is so much the same here in the west. Women here want the same things..security…buying power, a nice home to raise a family, good food to eat….a good life. When you see the guy, whose character is less than ideal, with that great girl all because he has a super job and can drive the fancy truck. Is this any different from the girl in asia who basically desires the same? (i speak of women only because of the subject we are adressing) She will do what she has to do inorder to get along. I dont think its right on any level to be dishonest. We need to level the playing field. The problem goes on and on and the scammer continues to scam raking thousands from its victims….on both sides of the ocean but in a different way.
Carefull consideration should be used when embarking upon any relationship which is so long distant in nature.
Is it normal for a person to ask another for financial support so early on? Or, when you have never even met the Dad who needs the money to visit an eye specialist, and he lives 10,000miles away.
What I need info on , is the whole aspect of the asian who has a work visa and still continues the scam from within your own country. Is there anyone out there with information regarding this type of crime?……I’m all ears.
You are so narrow minded. How can you say American women and Filipina scammers are the same thing? Filipina scammers to it as a career. Western women get married the honest way.
Dont you mean western women marry a man and take him for all he has and then saddles him with years of alimony? there are in my experience many more self centered ruthless women in the western world than there is in the Philippines.
hi tony,my brother has been fully supporting rent,schooling ect, a lady [if u can call her that]4 the last 18 months,he is deeply inlove with her i know she is only useing him 4 his money,but u cant tell him that,her name is nennette merez i wonder how many other suckers she is scamming
Distgustedpinay
You sound like a smart woman with a good head on your shoulders……Im just an ordiary, sensible guy working in the health care field…..Would you consider a chat sometime? It would be nice to learn more about your country.
I promise, I wont ask for wierd pictures or any such thing….but I will chat with you like a gentleman.
Sincerely, Will
I am 28 years old single with a good JOB earning twice the basic income of an ordinary pinay. I have my own house not that big but at least I own it. there are 3 girls in the family I am the eldest both of my younger sisters are nurses. Mom and dad are both working in the goverment not retiring anytime soon and they have phil health so I guess me and my sisters (all not married) wont worry about anything if they get sick. truth is my parents even refuse if we wanted to give money thats why we just send them things. I dont think I am ugly too, I can be ordinary looking woman but I am not ugly.
localy a woman who got a good job is already a good catch for the local man so in my case I dont think I’m going to have a problem with that BUT there is something that most local man wont accept… “a single mom”. I dont know but maybe its all about the culture which is for me a total BS.
one of my friend told me that westerners are not really so bias when judging a single mom, as they say they are open minded people. at first I was about skeptical to sign up in a dating site the way I see it before was a desperate move, but yes I guess I am desperate 28 turning 29 I think I have few years before my age pass the calendar. so I sign up in a site wrote detailed profile and for a month no one sent me a message (lol) then I begun to wonder what could me wrong in my profile so I went over other girsl profile and i was shocked because i saw some profile with totally nothing in it or sometimes just I’m sweet blah blah blah and they got a lot of comments. then I realize they posted pictures wearing almost nothing… so I guess thats the point well compared to my pictures almost covered like a nun and wearing my office uniform then I guess thats the reason but what can I do thats the only picture I have (not really but I think what is written on the profile is the first that people should read, I am wrong though) so I just let my profile be the way it is then one day someone message me and i was happy wow finally (hehe) but I was shocked with the message “hi babe I think your place is near my place care to meet”. I said I am sorry I cant meet you unless we at least become friends, then he replied the most dreadful message I have ever received in my whole life (except memo of course from my boss) “come on I know you are up for sex, all you single mom filipina are the same, all wanted sex and money”. I was really really so angry but there is one thing that I realize most man view filipina single mom (or just filipina) in a really really bad way and by reading all the comments here I think they have a basis just sad to say that there are some who are really looking for love who are being generalized just because of other peoples action.
and to end this all I just want to say that not all are scammers for sure there are scammers but then again they exist anywhere just that maybe filipina scammers get cought more often than the others. sigh!
BTW: I decided to remove my profile from that site and I never try dating sites again. maybe someone from the local will like me despite my past. if not I’ll just wait….
Jenny,
you sound nice enough, well spoken. If you see this and want to chat, let me know, I’m mid 40’s white guy in USA that stumbled upon this site while doing some reading to decide if I wanted to join one of the dating sites.
Hi Jenny
Isn’t it typical Filipinas always end up seeking a foreigner when in some sort of trouble. Either they need money, or getting to old, or as in your case have a child and Filipino men don’t want women with children. So the poor Foreigner picks up the tab everytime.. If a Filipino guy asked you for sex early on you wouldnt think twice because thats whats expected.
However, Foreigners need to earn their sex by showing total commitment first and satisfying your ambitions and proving their worth and accepting the baggage Filipino males created. Thank you for sharing that simple example. Its a double standard society.
Not in all cases Robin. Im 20 Pinay and is in good relationship with someone thrice my age. Yes a westerner from Australia. I find that most young men both foreign and Filipino are either concerned about themselves or are not into serious commitment. It all falls down to personal preferences and not typical of a certain race.
And i honestly think that these Pinays(including me though i do not have any children or problem really) opt to choose foreign guys because they find you guys more understanding and serious and has a more broad mindset and not just because you are the last only resort.
i would tell any guy dont meet a pinoy with children. Their own men wont marry them they look on them as sluts as that is what they are. If you are so stupid not to use contraception then thats your fault. If its because of your religion then ask your church to financially help you. If you are a foreign man & your pinay girlfriend has a child she will want you to be an atm. Dont listen to their lies as they are very subtle & clever. They know how to do it. Listen to the stories on here how men have been scammed by pinay women, the men are telling the truth.
I gather ‘its me’ is a Pinoy?. If so , it shows what Pinoy think . So let that be good advice to foreigners. I am a foreigner and I totally agree. These same women would not think of seeking a foreigner if they were not pregnant? Some other make it their business to get pregnant to a foreigner so as to get some sort of monthly allowance from his country. Its all business. Theres no love in it. It’s all B.S.
Don’t listen to their lies, they are subtle and clever.
Jenny,
I have been doing a lot of research online, with regards to learning more about the Philippines and happened to do a “google search on scamming” and this one website popped up. I have never posted a comment to a chat website. Comment is probably not the right word, but more of a desire to respond to yours. Being a person that does not judge other people, I find it so unfair that being a single mom this is something like being ostracized in your culture. You seem to be a nice person. It was unfortunate that your one and only experience with a dating site should be like that. Yes, there are many scammers, gold diggers and from what I have read many men of low moral character as well. I looked at a couple of dating sites and found that there approximately 20,000 Philippo women on them. I chose a free one. I have been on it for a few months and it is difficult to discover what someone is really like, but not impossible with enough communication it becomes very easy to read between the lines and find the ones who are being deceptive. Personally I don’t initiate contact with women to try to look sexy and or shallow profiles, but look the profiles that have substance and many be truthful. I have been contacted by many women, but in my youth I have lived in a few and visited many places in the world (including Okinawa, Thailand, Viet Nam and the Phillippines and I’m not worried about being scammed but found it interesting reading by those who have. Anyway getting to the point of my writing this, perhaps you should give it another try and not judge everyone on dating sites by one bad apple.
Gentlemen- The best scammers in the world are American women and the system that supports them.
Between marriage (rings, wedding, etc) cost of support and then divorce- including loss of assets, alimony and child support- it costs six-figures to most guys in cost or losses by the time its all said and done.
yeah heard lots of that here in u.s that’s also the reason why my husband didn’t wanna marry american girls.
WOW, exactly my feelings on the matter, in the Filipino society, if your wife cheats she can be charged with adultery and face from 7 to 14 years in prison. And if they leave the relationship, the children belong to the husband.
Here, she can be a slut and sleep around all she likes, divorce you, and make you pay hundreds of thousands while giving you nothing but grief when you try to see your children. And guys have the nerve to say their society is screwed up…kinda the pot calling the kettle black hey?
Hi, first of all think about it is so right ! lol funny;)
but anyway, iv been cheated many time on line by pinay but im still trying to find the right one and i did! ev met her in a cam girl site and we been just friends for fiew months and we fall in love and i ask her to stop working that i will send her help each month. yes she ask me for help before and i help her but that is because they realy poor ppl anyone would do the same. but anyway, its not becuz u send 50 buks here and there that its ging to ruin u right? but anyway now im suporting her and im going to meet her in november:) im 40 and not bad looking 🙂 im planing to open biz there, sense i have been to philipine 5 time i realy like it there, ppl are so nice and they happy even though they are poor they more happy then we are. they know life is not about having things but about being happy and family. the haters here i think yes if u over 50 and fat and is looking for a 20 years old girl you be desapointed you should look for a older pinay. and if u dont its because you probably bad too cuz u looking for a young girl that is 30 years old then you. so im glad those guys get cheated by those girl haha. for the rest i say pinay are great girls and very loving is no compareson with usa or europ woman. peace!
Will good luck to you David,any way,not all filipinas are scammer,WE are the most sensitive,caring,sweet and loyal to our family,maybe the big problem you will get is we can’t stop helping our family,most father and mother,that’s how our culture is,but other country’s don’t understand that culture,we don’t send our older’s to the home of the agent,we want to be with them until they die,and we can’t eat good food while we know that our parent’s are starving,so that is some of the reason why they believe filipina are scammer’s.But please open your eyes guy,yes a lot of filipina are selfish but those kind of filipina,who used drugs,cigar,alcohol,and most I can’t deny it when simple filipina turn to be materialistic,you can observe their behavior when you meet them,be smart,…but I promise to you most of filipina don’t care size,age,and personality,as long as you treat them as a human,….
go for it david & in a few short months or years i bet you are singing a different tune. you seem to know everything so do it, i bet it all ends in tears, your tears
You bloody sucker David!! Lol like she is really going to stop for you!!!!! I bet when you met her on there she was smashing her puke with a big black dildo!!!!! Lol your a dipshit!!!!! I hope she fleeces you for everything
My advice to u old folks stay away from teenagers..you are not hollywood actor hot dude or local filipino celebrity..come to think of it..teenagers will not fall in love with u..they will fall in love with ur money…most foreigners are looking the cheap pinay, bar girls..then later on you old folks you shout out loud if ur cheap girl pinay screwed up..you end up crying when u run out of money..
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Tonight i was just trying to check my fb account and decided to search about cebu scammers and find this site.by reading all the comments here, i now decided to share what i had just experience. Im 49,a single mom, never married and had a very good job to support my one child, that one day I had joined the Date in Asia , was just trying my luck to find. I had posted one of my best picture and a lots of interest was sent but i was pricky enough to choose who to reply and decided to met one guy,lets call him BB (BADBOY)..HEHEHE. age 67 while in his profile he is 59. We met ad spend the xmas and new year holidays with my family and he came back again by February to spend the Valentines together, but had agreed that i cant stay the whole 10 days with him since i am committed to my job as part of my responsibilties as part of the Mgt.When i left him, he decided to go online again and met another lady and we never had a real talk and drop me like a hot potatoe. On his next trip after 3 weeks, he drop by the house to leave some chocolates for the kid and never bother to contact me and refuse to answer my calls. One night we saw him in the disco house with the lady and i approach them in a very friendly manner and ask the girl where she work. As an HRD officer before, i know what to do to check her background.. Checking back on her profile in the site, its easier for me to locate her informations and found out that she was a married woman and had just left the husband house with the daughter and transfer to a rented room just to show to BB that she is really separated and the lady had been noted in the neighborhood meeting chatmates with the knowing of the husband..With my fear, i emailed and informed BB about it and he confronted the lady. BB told me had been invited twice to the rented house in the squatter area for dinner. It was quite scarry, because he could be trap by the husband drug addicts friends and he could be a victim of a set up hold up.
BB had informed me that he stop communicating with the lady and he had been grateful with the information i had given him. For now i had decided to back off from him , i thought a guy at 67 will be mature enough to behave the way he is expected to behave. The truth i had fallen in love with the guy, but as man, i expected somebody who will be witty enough not to pick up ladies along the sidewalks…i think BB was just playing around with Filipina gilrs….not a man worth loving for…by teh way BB is a german national.
FOR NOW I STILL BELIEVE IN GODS PLAN FOR ME.
by the way…the lady remain in the site…posting a new pic…
and BB had change his search age from 20 to 48….hehehe.with that, .i think a man at his age is just really looking for goodtime and i was lucky enough to have my last out loud laught on him being victimize by an scammer….im sure he will be left lonely and sad for the rest of his life by being bad..
I have a filipina girl friend and she is absolutly fantastic, I am 50 she is 24 and we have a great time together. She never asks for money but i do offer as life can be tough in the provinces as there is up to 80% unemployment. A simple rule is that if they are asking for more than $50 in a month you are being scammed. Also note that many filipino’s live day to day and have no idea on how to save or budget. If you give them $50 they will spend it, if you give them $1000 they will spend it and in many cases with no regard to tomorrow. Take note that in many cases it is not the girl doing the scamming, She will be, forced by her family. No one will tell you, not even distant relatives due to fear of retribution. I am so glad I found a decent one, there are plenty of really nice girls in the Philippines, just remember they have a very different value system than the western guy. Just be smart, put a limit of $50 per month and you cannot go wrong, if she dumps you becoz you will not hand over more then its not love, its you being the ATM. The best way to find out if she is being true is just tell her you are a simple guy with not much money, be careful that you do not show your wealth via photographs as this will attract the Gold diggers.
If she really likes you then she will not mind spending a small amount for SMS and web chat. If you have to initiate the contact then you are not really her item of interest. Now if every time she contacts you and asks for money and you as a love blinded fool give it to her then you are being scammed, especially after promising a western union payment she says she has to go..
I know the scams, but a lonely guy is easy game for a pretty young scammer. Yes it makes you feel good, but here is a reality check, hold a picture of yourself and her together…What do you see?
Hi, mr. peter, i just member in date in asia,4months ago,, i agree to your comment not all filipina is scammer like me im married,,bit now im separated already coz i cant take it her attitude, but now i found the man that i know he respect and love me you know what his race, he is bangladesh. Some of my friend say thier country is poor but for is not important i just want is i know that he love me. Coz money doesnt buy love so not all filipina look for money still have a filipina with dignity decent woman.
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hi guys
i feel very sorry all about this defferent story and have bad experiences about pilipina… I have my own bad story too in my life about foriengers, and I am pilipina woman at age of 23, i saw this site because i was reading all about the scammer.. dont be doubt that pilipina woman are money after, just u are not
lucky to find someone right much for u.. i believe in all countries has like this
behavior, man or woman has money needs and do it by bad way .. I have been
hurted also with foriegn boyfriend I never thought him as a bank.. I work with my own foot to have responsibity for my family and never ask to my boyfriend for help.. i was with him 4years relationship but the sadness he was not faithful on me..and the next chance i tried to join the date in site.. and i meet man and i was very close to be inlove after 3 weeks keep contact by writing email, and again i was disapointed he is a BIG SCAMMER.. in this world this is part of experience in our life to learn and have lesson.. A good Man goes to Bad woman, Good woman goes to Bad Man,, 🦠so sad! im willing to meet the right one which is match on me and really sencire for being partnership.. if u wanted to know about my story u could email me, kim_sweet25@yahoo.com
To all of the foreign guys that like my self have been scammed we must blame ourselves (I do) and our hearts. we can only be taken advantage of if we let it happen.
To all of the serious ladies looking for a honest Foreign man for marriage don’t give up we are out there
And to both remember do not let the betrayal of the past rule your choices of the future or you will never fully trust someone and without trust there will be no future.
Yes I still search for my future and I won’t let a bad experience stop me
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Top above has mentioned avarage salary/ month in Philippines,..well,.In Manila and other major big cities these might be lot higher than 100 USD/ month but i have been in Mindanao several midlle size cities and girls who works as a accounters, hotel and restaurant stuffs,.has normally salary 150-180 pesos per day,..so it is really only 100 USD/ month.
As a rule if there is more than a 20 year age difference between foreigner and filipina then the foreigner is being scammed and will be spat out when there is nothing left of him.
Filipinas that say ‘I dont care about age’ are liars and scammers. They know that older guys love younger women, that’s as old as humanity itself. These same girls are not interested in foreign guys their own age, why? because they are not as well off or on a pension.
I am an Australian and live in the Filipines. I am 42. I am good looking. However young Filipina women avoid me like the plague. They think I must have so many women they fear they may become another number, lol, which is totally not the case. I wish I was average looking, its a curse. They prefer an American old guy 65 plus. Why is this so?
The old guy is –
1- more likely to die sooner and leave his assets to her. He is more likely to stay faithful to her.
2- she will want to have a baby to him, because she will get his pension after he dies until her child is 18. American and Northern Europeans are the targets. Australians, French and UK are no good because their countries dont allow this.
3- If he is an American she doesnt even have to marry him if she has a baby to him, she can leave him and still claim a support pension for the baby until its 18 under the de facto laws. she can expect about 30,000 peso a month for 18 years. Not bad !!.
4- She can go to the USA with him, then dump him there and find a Filipino.
All scammers know this, they must all go to the same school, lol. So if you are a good looking youngish foreigner and you think you going to come to Filipines and hand pick a beauty, you probably will end up going to the local brothel instead, sorry but you wont find any women interested in you if you are good looking and under 50.
Also for those foreigners who think they going to find a beautiful Filipina, forget it. Any Filipina who is good looking is too scared to be seen with a Foreigner for fear of reprisal from Filipino males. Filipino males are territorial and jealous and don’t like the idea of foreigners coming into their country and stealing their beautiful women. If she is average to ugly its ok. I once was at a restoraunt with a beautiful girl once in Makati and there were 4 men standint there staring at her through the glass window the whole time we ate. I didnt know why at the time and she wouldnt tell me, but now I know. They were tormenting her as if to say ‘whats wrong with us’? She turned out to be a scammer by the way as well, lol.
All those beautiful pictures you see on the dating site profiles are all studio enhanced pictures. I doubt if any girl looks like that in real life and they are almost all scammers.
I love the new slogan for filipines tourism
WE DO IT BETTER !! hahaha you sure do especially at scamming.
hi macropor…sorry to hear that..really its an embarrasing situation wherein we Filipinas are known as scammers…and thats sad to hear..As i can see in most dating sites, i can see a lot of Filipinas young and old…and i can see for some that they are using their very attractive pictures.
one experience i encountered is when i met one guy from Date in asia and we somehow became acquainted and become lovers for a short period of time..to make the story short, i was quite serious thinking and hoping hat it was my long awaited relationship but it turned out the man was really a player and i think had been meeting Thai and Pinays..He met one lady here in cebu and it turned out to be a scammer..The lady was married and before the arrival of my friend she mange to transfer and rented a room together with her daughter to show that she is separated…and by chance meeting i caught them in the disco and i was able to ask the girl where she work and Bingo, the next day i investigate who she is and found the truth about her…and informed my friend about what i learned.
Its disgusting for these kind of women to do that…and another big surprise i learned about the guy, as an it expert…i found this guy seemed connected to several porno and dating websites..of which still im investigating, i doubt he is the one who make the dating website where i met him…..Im not an internet expert, but to my own understanding he really is…
Well, one had to be careful…we cant really avoid sometime when this bad people come into our lives…
I was thinking of going back to DATING SITES BUT ITS TOO SCARRY now this days to meet strangers who are not living a clean life..
HI,macropor , yes i throughly agree with yourself , Im a Aussie to , and i found ok when woman say age doesnt matter yes it doesnt? because they no time is on there side when the old guy dies quick they benefit from this so sacraficisng 10 years to make more than they could ever in reality.
I met a woman In Aus she was a 32 yrs Philiphino in Brisbane a ” Widower” i spoke to her thinking good age , nice lady,> any way finished but elder sister a Great Manuverer and Master scammer kept talking and i started to return fire by asking ? Cetain things to school me up ,
This is a ripper<> Best thing to be Careful Of all , I think as you are in Pinai , You have the Upper hand as U are there and can pick the one U like other than a Net guy with alot of choices yes but limited time to talk to 100s at a time , Hope your Ok macropor as Aus is now a sinking ship after JULIAS i have FOOLED u carbon tax Hits full swing ” Cost of living has risen in 2yrs 65% more and wages dont cover rates and hidden charges ” macropor ” I am with U as i think i will move there and open a business ” Any suggestions to Ok bussiness there with minimal red tape?
Hi macropor, i am a filipina and very faithful to my foreign boyfriend of 11 years. He was in his mid-30’s when i meet him. He cheated on me loads of times with different women and doesn’t treat me nice and he is not nice to my family either (in other word he is a racist asshole) but i choose to stay with him because i love him. We don’t have kids. I’d rather work as a nanny or as a maid than to ask and spend his money. I never asked him to supprt my family. Anyway, you already know the answer why filipinas doesn’t date you.. If you are a good looking Aussie, Filipina would think that you might be a playboy like most foreigners are and fyi: filipinas are jealous gals. We don’t want to be your number one, we want to be your only one. You said, once you were at the restaurant with a beautiful girl and 4 men are staring at her the whole time you ate. It’s probably because those guys are admiring your date? Filipinos likes to stare pretty women, it doesn’t matter if she’s alone or with date. They will let her know that she’s pretty by staring at her… You are probably have a very high expection for a women and looking for a celebrity beauty or you’re too good looking to even notice the girls around you… Peace!!! ;))
You are a classic example of the Filipina narrow mentality. Its no wonder your husband is cheating on you, hes probably had enough. Why are you putting me down, I was only telling the truth. No I am not up myself I was merely stating my experience. If I was a Filipino Male sitting at the restaurand with a beautiful Filipina woman and 4 guys were standing just the other side of us on the outside of the window do you think the Pinoy would put up with that? well first of all the 4 guys wouldnt dare do such a rude thing. Do you even know why those guys did that? They did it because they were jealous and angry at the Filipina who they see as being a prostitute because she was with a Foreigner. Dont you know the Filipine Taboo that all women with foreigners are prostitutes?
I have pride as well but Filipina pride seems to be a god given right for their poor miserable souls..
never send any money to people on the internet cause they will scam you. if it is possible try to meet in person and get to know her. by the way if she wants money when you meet her make her earn it. (love, sex or anything you want)
HOW I JUST WISH THAT PEOPLE WILL BE HONEST ENOUGH WITH THEIR INTENTION TO FIND THE REAL LOVE…which i believe a real love cannot be equate with money or luxury being offered..its best to have it with trust and respect..and being true and honest to each other.
well said clarenze. im wishing to have a good relationship too.
you are most welcome RIN…goodluck to your search..wishing you the best.
im not searching lol. im waiting… god’s will and in a prefect time. have a good day 🙂
hahahaha..still wishing you the best..”God said..Knock and you will be open”…so its never too late..we better knock on door twice…if it dont open..knock on all the windows…lol…me too..had tried my best to work on the relationship i had right now..but i think its not worth the sacrifice…really too hard to trust specially online affairs..
Dont wait..try your luck to look around too, but just be carefull.
sorry to say but i dont trust online affairs. so sad to hear that but try and try until u succeed… hehehe… im not worried about my future relationship, i think i had enough from past hence i have stone heart now… lol
true..safer to have the stone of heart…that way we’ll be more safer on the higher grounds…its more important to have a successful career rather than to have a relationship thats not worth the effort…
I am a filipina who just married last year, i met my husband at fb and we been started chitchatting for more than 6 months, he told me that he is not a rich white man. i don’t really care about that and im not expecting him to give me money, i work in the restaurant and had a part time job. everyday of my life since i meet him i can’t stand not seeing him through skype/fb video chat/ym/gmail even if i work graveyard and go home early in the morning before i rest to sleep we chit-chat. i never ask money from him because i know to myself that im not his obligation, until now that we’re married i even feel embarass asking when i want something. i dont know maybe im not that comfortable because i grew up independent and never ask anyone for money. there are some leech filipina out there that i know because they don’t wanna work hard and just rely on someone who they think who could give them what they need/wanted and it’s ashame that they are filipina.
the first time my husband came visit me to philippines i rent a house for both of us(because im just living with a room with my 3gal friends before he came) and it’s all my savings, i really love him and i told myself that if he is not interested on me after being together for 1 month in one apartment for his visit then it would be fine, i just accept that maybe he’s not the man for me. but im wrong,. because after that our love become more secured and we both cried when he have to go back to u.s to work. it’s true he is really not rich but for me?. as long as he showed and make me feel how important an how he love me then its not a big deal. he ask me to get married but scared that u.s gov wont grant us the paper that we need because his earnings every year is not much to the condition. i said if that happens and he still wanted to be with me together then he should stay with me in the philippines, because i dont really care going and living here in the u.s i actually miss philippines so much! but fortunately my papers were grant and we got married.a simple wedding right now we both are starting with our life together, im still waiting for my work permit so i could start to apply and work because im a workaholic and im dying staying in this house not doing anything. right now were still living in his granparents,helping his grandpa bec. he broke his neck last year, all i can do is to clean this big house,help excercise his grandpa,helping his aunt to their buss. and planting some veggies around their backyard because i can’t stand doing nothing and so lonely when he’s gone for work. well i know this is one of teh life im gonna be with because im so far from my country and not much friends since im still not started working, we both are talking about when we get old and everything is fine we will transfer to my country and live there untill the end of our lives..and that is sweet.
i’m glad u found love:)
Thanks for sharing. This makes me feel a better about my situation. I’m 25 and met a 22 year old filipina on a dating site and I’m planning to visit her in 2 months.
Reading all these comments has me scared. I know there are scammers, because I’ve met many on the dating site but was able to spot them quickly. I really don’t think this girl is a scammer. I’ve told her I am not rich (I’m not, but I have a good income – I come from a poor family) and she is okay with me not being rich and hasn’t asked me for any money. She has to communicate with me from a cafe, so she is paying to chat with me.
I have been on date in asia for a few months and chatted with many girls, I have only been asked for money a couple of times, most of the girls i chatted to are decent and polite and never ask for a thing. Granted there are alot of ladyboys, but there are also decent people on there
Just because they dont ask for money doesnt let them off the hook. 90% are there because of an agenda involving financial gain. They are getting the message now because there has been so much on the interent warning foreigners not to send money, so they know not to ask. Never let your guard down my friend. Only 10% are decent.
I’m a Pinay and i sincerely condemn those girls who scams unsuspecting guys.
The truth is most of the victim are old, unattractive , lonely guys looking for love.
I blame those guys for being stupid and not doing thier research and not using thier common sense.
If you are over 50 yrs old and looking for a 20 something, think again. You better save your money for your retirment. Give yourself a favour for not being stupid enough to think that a 20 something yr old girl will fall in love with you.
She maybe communicating with a dozen other men, so be careful. If she starts asking money after few chats, you know it’s time to delete her from your contacts.
Scammers are smart assed girls. They are so good at telling a sob stories, if you are not doing your research then you’ll be sorry. She will own you and your stupidity.
Two years ago i met a English guy, we become friends until he opesn up about his past relationship with a Filipina. He was around 50 that time, doing very well in his business. his ex gf is a former bar girl, i suspect she stops working after she move in in his apartment and depend on him.
He genuinely love her and so he did not mind her hanging around the house at times. She even ask him to help her bring her sister and mother to come and visit her because she said she is lonely and miss them so much. So he bought a couple of tickets for them. They stayed for a couple of weeks , he provides them money and food during that time.
When his girlfriends visit pass expires, she went back home to Cebu, after landing in Cebu, she apparently calls him and ask him to send her money because the money he gave her runs out, So he sends whenever she asked amount totalling to 24 k Singapore dollar over a period of 5 months.
Yes, she works in Singapore as a bar girl, He meet her at the bar where she works.
He later found out about her scam when she wrongly send him a message intended to her other bf….on her text it says, “honey my mom is in the hospital can you please help me, i need money now asap becoz she needs operation. Luv you , miss you muahhhhh…..
He tried to call her but when he can’t contact her he calls her sister and ask what happened to thier mother, the sister said she is at home sleeping.She must have forgot to warn her sister about it.
That’s the time he realized he was being conned.
The girl apologized but the damage has been done.
Well, one guy wokes up, maybe more are waiting to be conned.
I hope those kind of guys will open thier eyes and learn something.
I’m a single mom , working hard to give my kids a better life. I can’t see myself asking people for help esp guys i just meet in the internet. I am not in a relationship at the moment but i hope to find the right person in the future. Love does not happen overnight, it might take months or years to come. But, i hope whoever comes my way will love me wholeheartedly and honestly.
You blame foreigners for being naieve? Filipinas are the best hollywood actresses in the world and why blame an older man wanting to have a young woman? ,Its the Filipinas that say in their profile – looking for guy 20-70.
You need to wake up or accept the truth that online Filipinas 90% are bad apples. Dont blame foreigners blame your own kind..
Exactly…LiveLoveLaught….i had a sad experience about this scammers from cebu…..i had a misunderstanding with my bf and in one of his trip he decided to met this kind of people…..He met this woman age 44 who pretended to be separated and before my bf arrive she rented a room with her 22 year old daughter to show that he is really separated leaving the taxi driver husband in his ancestral house telling him that they (mother and daughter) will spend a 15 days out of town vacation in a relative. The husband didnt know about it, but had known from the neighbors that the wife had been meeting foreigners with a female friend (also married scammer) if not with her daughter. For sometimes if friends or neighbors saw them (the scammers) with foreigners they just reasoned out that were just ask to be as tourist guide. I caught them one time in the bar and a split of second i got the details about the woman and alas the next day with my circle of connection, i found their real identities and complete background…these crazy scammers are nothing but hungry mouth that live beyond their means….love wearing branded clothes…that the stupid husbands where left with nothing but shame…one of these lady scammer had some health problems that everytime she got sick the husbands spend for the hospitalization…the daughter is also noted for meeting foreigners…who i just learned lately had been reported by an officemates to the HR department for not being able to pay the debt she owes…..disgusting women who dont even think to protect their image and doesnt give importance to family values.
This scammers wrongdoing is an embarassment to our society. But true, that these Foreigners, specially the olders ones must be careful enough in choosing this pinay ladies
All relationships need work but first you got to be a 10 to pick a 10 dont think that all you need is money you will never get far in the long run.
I love the philippines the culture the natural love that you get from total strangers.
Love in God will help you just go to your church pray and have honor good things will happen….stop saying later or the good ones will say later to you.
Tiwala sa Diyos ang mabuting bagay ay mangyari
Bye Mike
most of the foreigners who come here only wants sex so they deserved to be scammed,i feel sorry for the good ones though,they have to be extra careful and background check their lady just to make sure!
Most foreigners who come here only want sex? and Pinoy men dont want the same amount of sex ? Its a human nature, get over it.
I should say that it is the person’s fault if he get scammed, He himself is trying to take advantage of the financial difficulties of the other party, using his more stable situation or money. A scammer can easily be detected, avoid sending money and she’ll be out in a jiffy, if you need to send money don’t use a money remittance like WU which most scammers preferred, send it throught bank which require stringent ID..you’ll see she/he will be very insistent not to do that. scammers too are at worked in the very early morning 2 to 4 am their time when they were suppose to work or school as a student. If they are so pretty chances are the pixs are not real and they are scammers.
I too was the victim of a scammer. She was very good at getting what she wanted (money). I met her on DIA and we started chatting often. We had chatted almost a year before there was any mention of money. This made me feel that she was legitiment. We had starting making plans for me to go to the Philippines to meet her and possibly marry. Now she knows she has me hooked and the request for money start comming more often. She had all kinds of reasons for her needs. Family member sick, cell phone broke so we would not be able to chat anymore, etc. I started to become suspicious when I would send her money I would not hear from her for several days. Then when I would here from her again usually something else tragic had happend and she needed more money. I put my foot down and told her I would not send her anymore money. I would soon be with her and we could take care of all her problems then. She disappeared. I knew her as Renith Elias living in Cagayan de Oro. I recently have found her again back on DIA. She is now using the name babyjhen.wantu and lives in Oroquieta. Live and learn…..
so sad it have to be that way that she have to wait for a year just to scam u..
be carefull in DIA…lots of scammers there now…of the 3 women we caught from cebu..they have several actives profiles there…
Your statement is so true about sending money and then not hearing from them for days until the next “crisis”
Rodger….please be very careful in DIA…the lady scammers we caught are still having several profile in DIA..Using different names and address…be carefull with them..for this 3 persons we know they have more or less 10 active profiles in DIA posting different pictures….noW i check DIA and found your scammer there..ask the DIA MGT TO DELETE HER AND COMPLAINED HER AS SCAMMER…
My analysis of the situation is twofold.
1. You would be very, very stupid if you think a 20 something will really fall for a fifty or sixty year old guy…..it does not happen even in the movies man !!! What they WILL fall for is his money, and what it can do for them and their family. You are just a WALKING ATM beleive me on that…..i have been there done that, so I KNOW THIS. IT IS THE TRUTH….even though it hurts your ego to admit it.
2. 50% of the Filipinas who are in the chat rooms are in it for the money, the other 45% are pros…….that leaves about 5% genuine ones. In short 95% are dishonest one way or another….In fact no other SE Asian nation women are so outright and blatantly dishonest when it comes to making gullible foreigners part with their money…..and this from a Catholic nation, where the church extolls the virtues of honesty…..these women are definitely NOT Christian ! and yet they dutifully go to church every Sunday…….if thats not being two-faced, what is ?
The 5% genuine ones are the ones you have to go for, and if you find the right one, you are set for life with the most wonderful and faithful partner you can hope to ever have…..i am fortunate there, I might add for my Lydz is one of a kind girl………as for the rest ,just let them be…maybe one day they will know and feel the kick, when the boot is on the other foot. And please, all you Pinays and Co. who feel these girls are doing it all for the money, and we should not judge them so harshly…..ask yourself one question only….if the roles were reversed would YOU then like it ???
I met a very nice young lady on chat, not a dating site. I have not really been looking for a gf, but her and I have been chatting for sometime. Yes her circumstances there aren’t great but she seems to be honest, never asking me for money. She wants me to come to the Philippines to meet her father, brother and sister and if all goes well maybe we get married. But, she asked me if we get married and if she moves to Canada, she was wanting to bring her sister, brother and parents here eventually, thats when I started to get suspicious about what her true motives were. She says she loves me, she’s rarely online because of her financial situation, but I’m wondering if I am being used as a vehicle to ger her entrance into Canada. BTW, I’m 49yrs old and she is 23yrs old, so I’m doubting there is any realistic chance of a relationship that would be lasting. Any suggestions or advice anybody?
a lot of filipina scammers don’t ask foreigners for money since they feel that foreigners will give them anyway. a lot of prostitutes also don’t ask for money upfront. they consider this an investment of sorts. they want to be considered as a girlfriend and not as a prostitute.
now if you explain to her that you don’t want to have a girlfriend you just want to have a friend here in the philippines she just might disappear. try telling her that you intend to retire in the philippines since you don’t have any money to retire in the first world country you are staying in and want to live a simple life in the philippines.
Hi BrO, Thing is all these woman have scams and intentions and all are widely varied in scams mate i could write a book on them ,as they use the sisterhood ok to manipulate , Ok and I will also say the men who go there treat these woman with contempt abuse and use like a form of slavery, so i will only comment to help you just please dot take in a offensive way
1: Mate she 23 ? ok and she says this to U i love U honey and if i come and live and marrried to U i relocate family ??
2: WHO is paying for relocation of family ?
Who is going to suppurt Her and Also U marry Pinai girl U marry who family and issues??
3: Men see Young girl and become fooled in there perception in alot of times as they say Age doesnt matter ?? I can tell you in my situation i found it does ok as its great for a while and you live the dream but you must remember that23 now in 10 yrs is 33 and 49 is 59 and its unrealistic , the reason why they want older man is 2 things ok as u become a second lover father figure provider and these woman no if u die older u she gets all, I had a mate in brisbane Aus he met a woman and went and married and brought home , he died 2 yrs into marriage after she lived In AUS and when Family asked for the funneral she would not allow them to see hom buried and bargained for inherientce? So thats a view and is true.
4: I honsestly have been in your situation and i had a 25yr gf when was 40 its 15 below me but i found great attentive but she still had baby tenedacy and wants club and then she became plastic everytime i came so gave it up then had a older woman at 29 she was great girl and i wanted to be with her in marrriage and when asked her and family got the Yes light so started to arrange things she i found out was married? i come to her 4 times she had kids and a family and i was fooled as i went to a markets and seen her as she didnt no i had come as i was to suprise her but it was luck i didnt ask i watched and followed and then when i went to ask a freind he told me leave straight away as U can be jailed if u involved with a married woman and her husband claims to police issues of U.
5: Age does matter i realized after a while and met some great people in pinai as most are good but oine thing i could never get over was they lie and cheat and then go to church claiming there christian ? i dont no what christion perception they have but it aint in my bible its a 50/50 mix and but same as we no in west is why we wont have the Seagull Woman here , I found my girl and this is my view Ok there is some great wife amterial above 30s mate 32 to 34 look and chat these woman are really wanting ” Decent Man” and will be were U may find a honest girl as i found this as younger are now in the new generation we find in the west now Me Me Me Me people but the 30s are willing to compromise for a future and even the single mums who have kids are great woman to , Each man likes a woman for her and makes them happy so follow your Heart ” Shes A Player Mate ”
6: When you go there , go to internet cafe Ok its a life changing experience for your perception of the people you talk to on the net as you see decent woman being corrupted by the bad ones who scam you see them with multiplie screens on monitor and decent guys and bad ones to on screen thinking shes hoest and only talks to U ,
7: Mate the true Pinai wife U seek is the best partner you will ever be lucky to have because you must look at this, SHE is lucky to have U and YOU are lucky to get a true old fashioned value wife . The True pinai Gf , Fincee , wife is Complex and gets moods but 90% of time makes U so happy as they believe in family first not a plastic card and coffeess every day like here in our world , you are best to find Village girl than city as there less corrupted . And remeber these woman mate have a thing us westerners can not except to and some times corrupts the relationship but if U work to beat the ” Jealous Syndrome” out of her views as she gets jealous over phone calls? talk in shop? late home from work? <>> so good luck mate , hope some helps U
Simple. Tell her “no” to all. Then see if she drops or not.
Hi…by the way you narrate it , she sounds so naive..maybe its includes in her wishes and dreams to help the family be placed to a better situation…what best to do, if you really love her is to meet and greet first before deciding to something serious relationships..at this age we cant tell yet , who are honest and true enough with their intention until we know their background and family traits…as for her age, i think shes a bit too young for you and often times here in Phils some young Pinays who got marry to older foreign men ends up being unfaithful by having back the relationship with their Pinoys bf….this really happens..but i dont want to disappoint you…Love always find a way….goodluck to you!
I’ve have often thought about it and with practical reasoning I know she is a sweet girl, but she is just that a girl. Her mother is in Romania right now as a maid, her father can’t work because of high blood pressure, she doesn’t talk to me from an internet cafe, she talks to me from their home using her sisters lap top, her father came to see me while I was online because he wanted to see just who I was and who his daughter ws talking about. However, she is way to young and I will have to sever the ties that we have because I just have a feeling that eventually this won’t work. She asked me last night if we could have children together but I told her “no” because I am almost 50yrs old and I do not want to start a family now and I have had vasectomy, she was disappointed but thats just the way it is. I will be 50 next year, is there a nice old fashioned filipina women who will love me faithfully as I will also love her just as faithfully? The women here in Canada and the US are not the marrying kind, even if they want to get married, North American women are too me, me, me and me.
just keep looking..we all deserve to be happy…love comes at the right time…i never rush too @ 50..lol
Thanks Clarenze, this girl does seem to be naive, she has asked me to come and meet her family where she lives in a small town about 2hrs north of Manila. She is a sweet girl and I’m sure she’ll make a fine wife someday but not for me. She has a 5yr old son and one of the problems that she has as she has told me is that she’ll never be able to marry another man there because of her status as a single mother. Anyways, who knows maybe I’m the one who is naive, but I think i am making a wise decision by looking for someone near or closer to my age. Thanks for advice Clarenze.
Hi Captain Cupcake…i am a woman who is very active in a Womens Group…i supposed she had the feeling that being a single mom it ends up the hope of falling inlove and getting marry…for now In the Phils..we have increasing population of single mothers, of which comes from failure marriages and unprotected sex…Long before its somewhat like a shame in our culture being a singlemom ( a discgraced as what we call before), but now its becoming acceptable and its every womens right to stand up and be proud of what she is….though for some men that comes from conservative families they dont welcome the idea of marrying a single mom…..but everywoman had the right to be happy…but have to protect herself from abuses.
I wish you goodluck too…
Oh cripes, now we have this “woman activist” crap in the Philippines.
Clarenze, I very much appreciate your openess and your kindness. To be honest I am a kind, gentle man who was once married before but after my trust for my ex being broken I have never been able to trust anotehr woman, however this girl comes across as being very true andn scincere, but again the age difference is quite obvious and will probably only spell trouble. I know that I would make a good husband as I will treat my partner as not only my best friend and equal, but as in one I can trust, love and respect deeply. I have had plenty of opportunities here in Canada to settle down with someone, however the women in this part of the world (as are the men as well) have lost what the true meaning of love and commitment to each other are. Maybe this is why I have leaned towards a filipina women, I know so many filipina’s here in Canada and they are the sweetest, kindest people I have met. I’d like to speak with you further on this subject away from this thread. If you’d like to email me sometime, let me know if it is ok and I’ll forward you my email address.
Hi captain cupcake..wil be happy t hear from you…you may reachme at rosebud2619@hushmail.com
Why is she using an encrypted email service? hmmm đź‰
Hi Clarenze, I tried emailing you at the address you gave me however the email keeps bouncing back to me. Is that the right email address?
hi…got a problem with that email ad now.. i cant even open it..hope you can give me your email..
try this new one rosebud6298@hushmail.com
Done..captain my captain!
pls give me your email
Hi Clarenze, you can reach me at marclundy@hotmail.com I look forward to hearing from you.
Reading all the post is quite amusing…each have different story.but the truth be told all different in some respect.Ive chatted with many filipina’s for 3 years.I personally havent been scammed but I dont allow myself to be to in that position.So dont allow yourself that either….find out about her talk open be honest.dont let your looks…or her nature fool you.granted most are very sincere in thier hearts as the truth….Oh yes the scammers are good…but quite frankly speaking are too easy to see…move on find the right gal….the scammers give the good ones a bad rap for sure…and guys there are many good ones…most just want a simple..better life for themselves and thier family.be prepared your marring the whole family if your accepted…but doesnt mean you have to care for each one….make it clear up front that you only wish to care for her needs.and her parents if needed..most scammers ae working for handlers who teach them how to act….the girls they choose are simple and coached they work off a percentage of the take.they wont stop till they achieve winning your trust and heart….If you listen and watch her on cam she will show signs as being coached and how to react to the queston…It may be her mom coaching too….It s a family affair the more money everyone shares…Ive personally met some not alot maybe out of 100…10 were playing for money….2 even came out and asked for a free ticket visa to the states….she said i wont marry you but will care for you……guys open your eyes listen…Its too easy too see..In regaurds most are sincerly looking for a long lasting relationshipI have many friends in the phils…and have sent money during a difficult time durning the cagayan washii floods…and for care for elderly nanay…but but knowing her 3 years ts easy to see if shes playing me…even we arent together shes very wonderfull pinay ;lady….she calls and asks if i need money…and please come and visit…altho Im not inlove with her…I mostley prefer older pinays 35-45 they are mature more….the younger ones seems mature but listen to them chat…you can see its will be hard to raise them…age does matter and let them know…but quite frank its your choice what you want to be…The older pinays are over looked because they are old now..and have children….but just as sweet and caring and sincere and faithfull as a younger girl…my opinion only…I think that sending money is fine as long as you have trust on her…..and she feels the same…but only after long time for knowing..basic needs
redflag..i need a new laptop cell phone ect…..best way is to meet her spend time I mean alot of time…..visits…enjoy the company….and enjoy each other.they are easy to adapt to any situation and in infact can give great advice in the matter ….first and formose my be honest…and tell her what you expect..and your needs and wants….if she agrees great..if not move on…allways be respectfull…Its better to be honest upfront…and she in return.most pinays are poor and take-care of the family at home..if not working..dont be alarmed if you see many people while she chats you…they are family orientated anf family means everything..be prepared to marry the whole family as thier approval means alot too her.put god in your relationship first.respect her for what she is….care for her needs…be faithfull loving….and treat her as shes your whole world…..everyday tell her shes your filipina princess…and thank-god you found her….you will be rewarded beyong your expectations.Oh yes pinay woman are very good at getting what they want they will ask openly…..if you say no not now…trust me she is very good at trying another way.once mind set…they will keep trying…lol..love it….I see someone memtioned marry a rich pinay huh huh…the poor ones who make 4000 p per month isnt not any less deserving then a rich career woman…In fact better to have poor then rich she will appreciate it more to have then a rich one….because she has to struggle to meet the needs for her family…..Its what you want……and want to be….yes you can have many girls there…..or be content on one….me personally one is enough……Im happy with her and all she does….look for pinay in the privince they seem to be more traditional…and have more morals…as to speak one woman man…and marry for life….guys just be honest with yourself….its easy to browse the date sites…but trust me single out just one you desire for your partner learn about her..get to know her upfront…and personally….meet her….be there for her allways when she needs you….just simple things..like how was your day….love you
your very pretty today as allways….keep it simple as she is simple….side notes…..to the guys getting scammed pls dont take this wrong but your allowing yourseles to be put into this position…..either you enjoy it..or up to no good……god bless and take-care….best of luck in finding your filipina princess for life…..
Exactly.
Hi,
I have a western white bf(i’ve never met him in person), a 45yrs old retired souldier in Israel(he said he retired coz he wanted to find his soulmate). He is currently living in new york, No wife, no kids. (i met him in Date In Asia, just minutes after i made an account, and he was also a new member)after we met we decided to deactivate our DIA accounts. I believe he is my soulmate coz we have alot of similarities, we always understand each other and we’ve been hurt from our past relationships.
I am a 20yrs old nursing student. I like western white guys alot coz they are so sweet(they still will kiss u and hold ur hands even if u guys were married for 50yrs already), so handsome(with blue eyes..rawrrr) and very kind-hearted.
He is sending me Big money every month (i’ve never asked, he offered me. am i a scammer:'(?), paying for my school, giving me expensive stuff etc.
I introduced him to my family and made him talked to my dad (which is a big thing for me). He is trying to come here in the Philippines b4 xmas, he wants to marry me and bring me to US for 2-3yrs and go back to the Philippines and settle here.
I am very sure i love him even though i’ve never met him. I always buy credit for international calls and call him everytime(he’s voice is my favorite sound:’)). He is my Bestfriend, my twin and most of all the love of my life.. I am very sure he loves me too coz i am always his 1st priority and he converted to my religion(BIG TIME POGI POINTS!). GOSH I LOVE HIM., IM IN HEAVEN!!
Sounds like you two have a good thing enjoy each other and may life smile on you!
Thank u Dave :))
HI KIM.that’s a nice story of you,good luck …if he converted to your religion I pretty sure he’s a good guy,…congrats and hope to hear you soon…..by the way what is your religion…if you don’t mind.thnx
Andy thank u. I d0nt want to mention my religion here but its a sect of Christianity 🙂
hehehe it look’s like i know it…same like mine…anyway…good luck to both of you……just Pray TO GOD AND HE WILL GIVE YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED,…
Hello Kim,
Was just wondering how things were coming along, and were you able to meet your boyfriend during xmas?
Hooray, one normal good honest Filipina. Good luck to both of you. .
Thanks Robin 🙂 Theres alot of good and Honest Pinay. would u like me to introduce u to one? hehe my friends are single
Hi thnx for this site,we can express our feeling here.
My story was,I was on dating site.,/…….as a desperate women seeking for a good men ,hehehe….A lot of men send me their interest,and emailed me.but most of them are rude,first they will ask you right a way if you need money,If the guy asked me those question i really leave them and ignored them for my whole life.
Since a lot of them are Liar,I was decided to turn off my account,…One Day after 6 months I was tried again to re open it,maybe this time I can try my luck again.Yes it’s a lot of men sending interest and emailed on me…since some of them i response some not at all,One Filipino guy I was talked with and we exchanging emailed a lot of time and called a lot of time,with out money involved.He’s from Canada,he is a medical assistant,he want’s kids,marry me,and a lot of promised that i was really believed,One day I was waiting on him,since we exclusive talked on net,he said he can’t be online before 1pm Ph time,So 12;45 i was waiting on him,I was tried to buzz his account,and i saw he was writing a message but not on me,,,,,since that i never go online and leave him totally,i can’t be with a liar.never…..he went ph to meet me…but my trust gone….i never meet him….he called me a lot’s of time but as I said i totally ignored him…so i dont know if i am a scammer in this situation co’z that’s what he told me….since money never involve even he told me he send money but i never claimed it….so men and women should careful….not only men…
Its common for both men and women to have more than 1 chat mate. Nothing becomes serious until you meet in person and people do keep their options open. You never asked for money so ofcourse you can not be a scammer but you should have confronted him about it instead of doing what you did. Its the old Filipina pride isnt it.
Yes,Robin maybe i should but,i was believed he’s promises and i though that was a genuine one…When i told him that I won’t be chat to other men,all i said was truth…so that’s why hard to trust again…maybe pride yes,only filipina don’t have pride is the SCAMMER,..so i won’t really bother if men won’t like me…i know my self…im not that ugly hehehe ..and i have a good job…so im not in hurry also to have men…im just waiting for the right men,in the right place,….Any way thank you for your comment Robin…
To all readers here….Dont trust of online dating chat room from Philippines and dont blinded the prety she was.Dont ever send money to her. They are all Scammers!!.Good profesional educated and skill to persuade you with sweet romantic words when chatting with her.Dont hear of any excuse and the problem she’s faceing even a tears of blood she’s shown on the cam….They are good liars!!.
Hi Adrian , May i ask have you been to Phillippines ? as this is my experience all are on the look for better life Ok < but some arent scammers but its a 65% are to 35% good not best odds as this is My observation from 5 trips there so all who ever reads this post , dont take offence, i have been skimmed to but i allowed to get rid of them .
Ok so adrian when you go there i am not shore if you been to a intenet cafe its such a valuable learning experience as you will see the scammmers at there craft and how they do it is such a game to them as there monkey oportunist cunning ,all you meet on dating site have multiple names and profiles and are ready to provide a vailable storey to make you show compassion then BAM they pounce and work on you to come there for home advantage " Sounds bad but believe me when a family trick you with lies" you will understand some of my scamms i have seen .
Ok in a interent cafe the girls have multiple screen of men open?? with a cash register approach to all <> and all show sob storeys to make you send Cash ” Never Send cash even if You been and met << You say when i come i will help out as this reduces your risks the girls in 20s to 27 are the best with no ethics and most family mum and dad do not no they working cafe scams to so be careful.
One experience when i went to a cafe to check my emails was this a married woman worked an american man he was None the wiser that she was married and her husband gave her commands from the next booth and i remember the conversation as he said get him to pinai and you spend a week with him ??? see no morals is selling ones soul as i was astonished and another thing is this if a woman whos married there has no divorce and you meet them and a relationship happens and husband finds out you run the risk of being jailed under pinai law for adultary Act in pinai
30s to 40s seem the best as i no this is different to western ways but i have found a genuine one im 42 s shes32 and has one child << Mate there the best the single Mums as they no the score and appreciate a man who looks sfter them and there not demanding to " Maybe the Plastic woman you Encounted" Whos wants a green card and a gold credit card to <>> He will die quick so i can get cash from him early then i will bring my Pinai boy friend to the country ??<<< So a Prenuptial aggreement is best Ok as in pinai theres a LAw called Conjetial ?? Sorry i no the law but names dodgy , this is when a western or pinai man marries in Philliphines A NO NO as never marry there as you will be goverened by there scammer lawers and law as this law says once married Half is hers and Yours so technically she can annull and divorce and claim estate but they dont as a rule as they want passge to western wonder world so caution wins there to you get an aggreement she must sign and you do this in her lawyers room so she can not claim you forced her , I mention this as i have seen so many scam and approaches they use
In Australia i seen a Male marry her and bring her to australia she say i love him " Bulshit she loved Cash and well the poor dude was marrried before and he had kids and he had a will and made fair for his kids to get a third each so one third to both kids and a third to new wife but she claimed hardship and swindled kids then had her X bf come holiday and try get citizenship but when Kids showed her for her she lost all claim and was deported as in australia they pass new law to protect male for 5 yr of foreign wifey scams , Hope enlitens You adrian and to all who read post do not take offence this is my real life experience and im dam shore theres more other examples that show fair ways as i found not all pinais are scammers but theres a definate major amount so ADRIAN best to go there and go to small secluded province and look for decent ones as the ones in citys become corupted very quick
Yes..I been visit Philippines several time But just for vocation with my friends.I was the victim of the Scammer too lastime and that is why i want to remind and give advise to our friend here especialy from US,Kanada or Australia to take precaution when meet someone in dating chat room from Philippines.Mostly the victim is from Adult cam websites chatting in yahoo massenger!.
Thank q so much Tom for the great sincere advise to me and I appreciate!.
Tom, No lawyers agreement between you and the babe is going to protect any foreigner in the Piany land. Courts always favor the Filipina babe in the land of the Philippine Islands.
There was an old Guy 73 from Australia 6 months ago was shot dead because his babe for 4 years had a Pinay husband. Then when the Foreigner decided to sell the house under the Lawyers agreement, the Pinay ape came out of the woods and shot him dead. Look, there is no justice or law in the Philippines, its the wild west. No legal agreement means anything that belongs to a Foreigner because all their laws over ride it in Court. They got it made.
Adrian sorry to hear that your one of the victim of this people who really don’t have shame or pride as a women…but im not agree of what you said there that all of filipina are scammer,we almost a hundred million population…and 49 % are women.so how many women on net? not even a 1% of our population…and let say 50% of that 1 % are scammers…so please dont be so bitter and i assure you it’s a lot of a good women…and good wife out there in philippines…if you find a good women there they will treat you like a king…i have a lot of foriegn friend, they married a filipina and they said they are so happy because they found the right women,..once again sorry of what you had been through,GOD BLESS YOU..
Its a woman world. You get that, a womans world.
Foreigner marries a Filipina in the Philippines and lives together with her in the Philippines. They are married. Foreigner pays for land. builds a house. Who own the land and house? The Filipina. So Filipina finds a Pinoy Boyfriend and kicks out the foreigner form the house he paid for. What can the foreigner do ? Nothing.
OR
Foreigner brings Filipina to USA or other western country, he already owns a house there. if the Filipina and him split up she gets HALF the house and still gets to stay in the west. .
Its always a win win situation for the woman.
Scammers know this and governments look after women.
So true Brother maybe men should do this and isnt this why some men go to pinai and have a rgular woman and promis the world and use them ? I seen a german male there in Philliphines he was married 2 kids and laughed and this was my first trip there he said MATE they Use us for money and a hand up in comfort of life and the old love U till die addage doent work as woman who say im looking for decent gent up to 70 are dead set scammers and hope male die and there in for what they can get as this guy had 2 gfs? and spent 2 weeks with each and even had the hide to ask one to marry him in Malayaisa as hes married in germany legal but if marries the pinai in malyasia its only legal in that country and german wil not reconize the marriage so what he does is swoon poor simple woman who are trying to scam him for well better life situation and who blame them i dont but he uses and discards them its shame full . On the other hand if U have been caught like me with a Broom rider western fat Arse loud mouth protected spieces who actually rates herself over other woman the Fillipina woman are best but its a lottery status to find a good one and i find the Part of a western man and fillipina so funny as alot of western men have pinai Gfs and there not Prostitutes but label by there own race as one lifes full of choices and constraints the problem has been that the male is to trusting when he needs some ferret hehehe but they use as a bargain so in the end its best to study some of them and i have also seen this a fillipina scammer hook a american guy then when in USA network with the Fillipina comunity and then make lies to husband and divorce him and next minute shes removed him and had a pycology test on him if he wants to see his kids and BAm next a Village Bf man turns up for a holiday <>> The point is MEN should net work and warn all others of there drama and games and manuevers they use as after all if we did there be miimal scams and Never trust a Net Woman as there so false and full of lies is my honest appraisal but some meybe but i havent fund many , the western governments are full of Lesbians and Poofters who intend to break down society morals and mildstones which is to break the male and remove him from his family so no wonder the odds are stacked for them but in Austalia theres a new approch as the pinai when scam hubby are sent home in a time period when he notifies the Imigration of there deceit in marrriage as this has protected alot of men now
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i do want to stress a point that I am only criticising the bad elements of the female population and from my own experience that no western man will ever find a woman like a true Filipina. They really are unique and with old fashioned qualities that western women left behind in the 1950’s. I hope it stays that way. So whenever I use the word Filipinas or Filipinos it doesnt mean ALL (only a small percentage of the whole ) and Im sure I am speaking for many other foreigners here as well.
Yeahh!!…I am aggread of your comment Tony!,Not all pinay of Filipinas is a Scammers but mostly.One’s ill been a victim of Scammer from Philis…Im not trust anymore for sure.Enought of me the experience from the past.Better of me to find other Asian women and not from Filipina.So beware…friends!!.
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lol glad i was smart enough to look up scams before dating online, had an ex that all she seemed to do was want money from me and if i couldn’t give her money she would get angry and threaten to leave me i basically posted on her wall all the signs and things she exhibited from a scammers site and how she was fake to everybody anybody dumb enough to hook up with her after that is either mildly retarded or a gluten for punishment.
Good action taken asinshin,Dont pay attention to her.Avoid money talks.Use your common sence and be alert while dealing you meet in sosial network to avoid any unpleasant surprises and lastly never send money or you be sorry of yourself on money tranferd.Remember…a good friends didnt ask for helps to sending money,Never hurry in relationship.Time is your companion in judging Scammers….So beware my friends!!!.
look at it like this if you out dealing drugs you ain’t about to give the money until the product is in your hands right??? right now don’t pay somebody over the net until you been with them and lived with them long enough to realize what type of person they are and sometimes that takes several years before getting to truly know the person. real talk have a nice day enjoy.
Hi,
I’d like to add my own story if I may ? After 2 years of chatting with a Philippines girl I have to admit I was yet another scam victim. I met her 3 times and she put up a most convincing scenario. She enlisted the help of several of her friends who in fact turned out to be family. The whole family appear to have been involved. I first saw her on an Asian cam site as a model and so the story began. It seems her live-in lover who it seems is a 3-wheeler driver and drug peddler allowed her to be rented out for my visits to Asia so she could meet me. The whole details are available if anyone wants them as if only 1 further person is saved from being her next victim, it will be worthwhile. She uses the name Michelle Mendoza Pallen and has cam site model names such as chef sexy , bichy mom, takeme4ever, and many more
I have noticed nearly all the men on this site who have been scammed have a couple things in common.
First, they dont listen, every site on the net including dating sites state “NEVER SEND MONEY TO SOMEONE YOU HAVE NOT MET IN PERSON”. Makes perfect sense, would you ask a complete stranger for money?
Second, Many have had relationships with bar girls or cam girls, these girls sell sexual favors, they have no respect for themselves or self worth, why do you think they would respect you and your hard earned money?
Gentlemen, remember there are scammers from every corner of the world. Lets buck up and learn from our own mistakes, to make a mistake is human, it is not failure but how we learn, But to make a mistake and be too arogant to see our own flaws that played a part, will not allow us to learn, if you make a mistake and dont learn from it but simply spread a blanket of judgement across an entire race of people, then that is failure. Failure to learn and grow as a person.
I am dating a lady who is living in Canada currently she seem legit. However, I been noticing while she is on skype members of her family are always crying to her about their financial woes. I told her I refuse to be involved in giving her family money. I told her I think her family can stand on their own two feet and go work for their money, but it seems they are always at her to send them money. Seem there is always financial problem after financial problem. This month alone they took her whole pay cheque and this is starting to leave me feeling unsettled. I am suspicious of a scam going on here with regards to her and the family. I am holding to the idea I will never give them money because I can see they own cars, houses, and have computers in the back ground while on Skype. I do not believe her family is poor by any means with what I see around them, but they keep asking her for more and more money and this is leaving me wondering what I should do, because if we continue our relationship – I am thinking we may end up in an uncomfortable situation because her family seems to be taking all the money she earns every month.
Hello Micheal,
You are quite right, while many filipino’s are truly in need and rely on assistance from family members working oversees. If they have cars, Especially more than one and computers, then they are by no means struggling. I have noticed in the many years I have spent off and on in the Philippines that many filipino’s seem to cling to the idea that financial status is a measure of personal worth. They try to appear richer than they are to raise their status within their society.
Some will even put unnecessary pressure on family to accomplish this. I would tell your girl honestly what you see and how you feel. Because frankly unless they need money for basic needs of life, they need to take responsibility for their own welfare, If she cannot see this and realize she needs to also help herself, then maybe her ties to the family are too strong.
Also you should know, that the Oldest daughter, Often reffered to as Elay or Enday, are commonly expected to take responsibility to help the family out. But this should not be the case for families who are middle class or higher.
Your fellow Canadian.
Hi Michel i must say and just read post she doesnt seem a scammer Bro , but what Us men dont follow is she is a status woman in her family because she works abroad and all skype relos have no idea to how much its cost her to live and earn but they think shes rich because earns money outside pinai and knows that all family whether uncle or 5th cousin or long lost relo has same chance to get money given by her to help if she can as this is Phillipino family normallity as she Ok feels obligated to her family to help this is her culture BRO ask her comunicate and ask why she will tell u ok the true pinai woman loves her family and puts them first before her BRO shes sounds a keeper BRo
as in western we never ask family for help unless desperate , well her family are desperate so she trys to help but if she asks U to help if married U must say yes after we are ok first but never help ok , i was there 3 weeks ago with my wife and well this is it i will mention >> i walk down street with my wife of 5 yrears ok , cousin relos all come out of wood work saying hello to her and me as think im a dumb arse dont speak pinai but my wife told me U learn so when they ask me for things U no to say no and walk away from them but its like this they ask you for 100 pesos which is nothing in a money sence because my wife is genuine and noes i only look at her and excepted her and were shes from and way her family lives is a reason why they look for a western man compared to there men there as alot of pinoy are playboys
She to me sounds decent and cares enough to help family with her pay check so tells me she a Ok girl and well set your boundaries like U have for Her and U and hope works out Bro as to be not biased there the best wife U will get as Man is first to her and ive had arguements with my wife as i say U and me are 50/50 in marriage instead of me 100% and u last but worth all the family issues Ok Good Luck to U
If you pinay is doing a good job keeping the house clean, cooking your food, and humping the joystick, then throw her $100 – $200 per month. When she asks for more or complains, kick her back to her parents.
If you are not in control of your woman, then you are a sorry arse excuse of a man.
I have been scammed by this user
http://www.dateinasia.com/Kantawan
http://www.findloveasia.com/Kantawan
until I found out it was too late. I kept sending him money in Thailand. But to my surprise, he was a ladyboy. đź¦
God bless you all.
Yeahh..you are to late already and nothing you can do with your money anymore.I shared your sadness because you’re the victim of Scammers.So ..next time watchfull and take precaution friends of webcam chatting websites ok?.
Hi adrian..as i check his/her profile in DIA she/he is online right now..Please report her/him now at DIA..so they can bock the idiot…so many fake profiles in DIA..so many married women also pretending to be separated..
its so disappointing to know this kind of people who are all living a lie..
This posting, “Filipina Scammers « The Critical Thinker(tm)”
demonstrates that you fully understand everything that u are speaking about!
I personally fully agree with your blog. With thanks ,Sonya
Hi Gilbert, did you not suspect anything ? I ask as they usually have helpers who create a kind of smokescreen to hide whats really happening. They dont usually scam alone.
Scam Warning Signs
1. Ask for money to see her on webcam?
2. Ask for money for education?
3. Ask for money for food or rent?
4. Ask for money for plane tickets or visas?
5. Ask for money for a medical emergency?
6. Professing love at first sight?
7. Multiple requests for Money?
This are commonly and widely spoken by those who has been victims of scammers either in webcam chatting sites or social networks lately .Many forums and topics related to scams and several opinions has been suggested to avoid being a victim of scams. As to what I had seen, mostly but not all the victims of scammers are Americans, Australians and a few countries in Europe. The country which has the highest rank of scammers is Philippines followed by Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore. In my research, for a period of more than 2 months, I had gathered an information and guidelines that I would like to share and I hope that would help the readers especially men who are trying to find their partners in dating websites and social networks and is trying to evoke their pity to send money to their lovers, is the most common strategy of the scammers.
Although the majority of Asian singles are genuine and serious about finding a partner; unfortunately a few of them turn out to be scammers and malign Asians on online dating websites. Most Asians involves in dating scams works on the principle of low value, high volume scamming. Typically this involves asking the victim to send small amount of money to buy food, pay for daily living expenses, internet access, hiring a private room with a webcam or numerous other variations on the above. Asian scammers may also ask you to send money for plane tickets, visa fees, marriage annulment fees or other travel related expenses.
Webcam scams
There are several variations on this scam. In one variation, an Asian asks you to send money so that she can purchase a webcam for an online video chat with you. The victim sends the money to purchase a webcam and the lady vanishes with the money never to be seen again. In another variation, the Asian lady may ask the victim to send money so she can hire a private room in an internet cafe. Once again, the lady vanishes with the money. In the final variation of this scam, the Asian lady may explain that she is a student and is moonlighting as a webcam girl at an adult chat site. The Asian lady sends the user a link to an adult chat site and states that the service is free and a credit card is only needed for age verification. Several weeks later, the victim looks at their credit card statement and sees billing for adult chat services. No doubt this happens for those who have given their credit cards and Bank accounts information.
Education fee scams
In this scam the scammers ask you to send money for enrolment to get back to the class after stopping from school due to financial problem and cannot afford to pay the fees for college, university or other educational activities. In Philippines, for an example where there are no student loan program and scholarship grants are extremely hard to obtain, and students there whose parents have no money to finance their children’s education, deeply sorry to say this, but this is the comments, reality or facts given by the victims as to what country in Asia they were scammed, has the higher rate of education fee scams like this. You can avoid falling into this trap by taking few precautions which are outlined below.
Food, rent or living expense scam
In this scam the scammer asks you to send money for food, rent, internet access or other living expenses. Typically this will be followed by a request for another small amount of money. Shortly, after the victim sends the initial amount and more worst, she tell you that she was kick out from the house she was renting due to failure of paying the monthly dues.
Travel expense and visa fee scam
In this scam, the scammer will say that he/she wants to visit you but doesn’t have enough money to pay for his/her plane ticket and travel expenses. They will then suggest that you send them the money so they can purchase a plane ticket. Shortly later, they will tell you they need additional money for a passport fee, visa fee, transportation to the airport and miscellaneous expenses as requirements for sure. In some cases, they will also tell the victims that the visa requirements state that they need to have a certain amount of money in their bank account as a proof to the immigration officers so that they have sufficient funds for their travel expenses. Some scammers will show fake copies of plane tickets, visas or other documents to make the travel plans appear to be authentic. After wiring the money, the victim waits at the airport patiently for their lover’s arrival with a bunch of flowers. Only when all passengers are off the plane and the scammer doesn’t show up, that they realize they have been victim of scam. In order to avoid these scams, never send money for any travel related expenses, instead make it clear that you will travel to meet them AFTER you have spent considerable time chatting to them for many months. Also, make it clear that you will never send any money to anyone you meet online. If the person is genuine they should be very happy that you will travel to meet them, if they are scammer and sense that they will never receive any amount of money from you, you will probably find them disappear as soon as they realize they will not receive any financial benefit from communicating with you again.
Medical emergency/emergency scam
In this scam, the scammer will contact the victim and explain that either one of their close family member had tragic accident or medical emergency and will die or suffer grave consequences unless you send them enough money to pay for the medical fees. Typical scenarios include traffic accidents, brain hemorrhages, heart attacks, kidney operations, stroke or hypertension etc. In many occasions, the scammer may have primed the victim by previously telling you all about their fake mom, son daughter, niece, etc. and the victim may have even spoken to the fake mom, son daughter, etc. on the phone or by email. This is a ploy to gain greater sympathy from you when they reveal that someone will die in 24 hours unless you send the funds for an emergency operation. These scammers play on the victim’s emotions and are hard to resist. A few scammers are very smart to tell you that their father/mother died and don’t have enough money for funeral. If this is true, ask her to fax the death certificate or police report. Don’t send money to her without any of these two evidences. This is important and if she fails to do this with excuses, no doubt she’s scammer.
Request for Money, Large or Small = SCAM!
It is important to remember that sending money to any scammer, no matter how small, encourages the scammer to harass other online daters for money. I strongly recommend never send any amount to anyone that you meet online, and don’t even send money to buy a postage stamp not even a cent. Remember when the money sending stops, the scamming will stop too.
###HOPEFULLY THE TIPS AND GUIDELINES BELOW WILL HELP YOU AVOID FALLING INTO THE TRAPS OF SCAMMERS BY TAKING A FEW PRECAUTIONS.THESE TIPS WILL HELP YOU IDENTIFY SCAMMERS; I CANNOT GIVE YOU A GUARANTEE; BUT YOU MUST HAVE TO USE YOUR OWN JUDGMENT ON SPOTTING SCAMMERS ONLINE ON DATING WEBSITES AND SOCIAL NETWORKS.THIS IS MY OPINION AFTER READING A TOPICS OF DISCUSSION IN THE WEBSITES AND THE CONCLUSION I MADE HERE IS FROM MY OWN JUDGEMENT. AND ALL THE READERS ARE WELCOME TO ADD, COMMENT AND SHARE WITH ME IN THE COMMENT PAGE. ###
1. Avoid Money Talks: Money is the key thing involved in scam. As you become friendly with a girl, if she sends direct or indirect messages about how hard her life is, or she has stopped education because of financial problems, or her mother needs hospitalization or that she does not have money to pay for renting the Internet cafe, the chances are high that the girl is asking money from you. Remember, never send money to anyone you meet online. Money should not be a topic of discussion during the getting to know each other stage. You should reserve major financial decisions only when the relationship is beyond the initial stages and is heading towards marriage. Remember, a good friend you meet either in chatting websites or social network have morality and feel ashamed to a ask money from you or of any kind of help, especially in term of money talks.
Once you start the process of sending her money, you would be surprised to see how quickly her monetary needs increased. You would soon land up paying for her examination fees, medicine for her father, tuition fees, medical check-up of mother, repairs in their house, house rental fee, money for her sister’s marriage, or for buying the hottest model of laptop or mobile phone as a way to communicate with you at all time. This are just a few techniques and others will beg you for the house rental fee, water and electricity is cutoff and need your help with Sympathy.
2. Never in hurry in a Relationship: Time is your companion in judging scammers. Most scammer’s main goal to get money and they don’t want spending much time in exchanging a lot of emails. They want to extract as much money as possible in the short span of time. So they would never go for long courtships, or discuss in details about their likes, dislikes, personality, aspirations etc. So, if a girl says that she is in love with you after the exchange of few emails, and also writes about her genuine love for you and how desperate she was before meeting you online and how thankful she was to meet you, then you should be watchful. She may start calling you honey, sweetheart, lover and other romantic words within a few emails without even taking any efforts to know you. She will also mention about immigration, passports, visa and the expenses involved in this process, be careful in dealing with her. Don’t be blind by the pretty face she has. Facebook and Twitter are sometimes cannot be trusted social networks. Scammers normally use different identity and pictures to show in the page. The names given are sometimes false. Sometimes they use other person’s picture and attach to their profile to convince that he/she was the person on the profile given. This happened many times in Facebook. So beware!! Scammers is every where…friends!!!!!!!!!
3. Use Webcam chat: Sometimes the girls with attractive pictures are in reality guys, gays, lady-boys, old women, single mom or ex-prostitutes who are in need of money. So if a girl says she does not have a phone or do not want you to call her or does not want to show her face on webcam or tries to hide from you in some other way, chances are very high that she is a scammer. During chat sessions, use of webcam is a good way to see your chat mate and know her genuineness. You should watch her facial expression and body language while she chats with you. You can also confirm that the person chatting with you is the same person in the photo of her profile. Take into considerations on how she interact, give and received text while on chatting. Use your judgment to identify scammers!
4: Copy and paste letters: Standard templates, letters or emails are usually another sign to identify scammers. If an email seems like it was copied and pasted to send to anyone, and is not relevant to your reply or queries, you should get that as a WARNING. If they are not addressing you by your name, or write irrelevant information when replying to your email, you should be careful.
The above mentioned facts are just part of scamming techniques which may be a helping hand to all those who need some genuine guidance on online dating websites. Having said that, I would also like to mention here one more fact which is, there are no perfect rules when it comes to courtship or love. Ultimately, common sense comes handy and you should decide what is right and what is wrong for you. Fast food mentality should not be applied for finding true love. Take time to understand the relationship status, a year and longer is better to know each other as well.
The only relief is that compared to genuine Asian girls the percentage of scammers is less. There are many Asian girls who sign up on Asian dating sites such as cam chatgirl whose aim is to actually find their future partners instead of getting money from you…So be careful. The rule of the thumb is to follow your instincts. If something appears to be fishy then avoid getting into that relationship – don’t wait and let her go no matter how beautiful she was. At the same time, don’t allow few rotten apples to stop you from finding your happiness online. Use your common sense and be alert while dealing with any online relationship to avoid unpleasant surprises.
Good luck to you all for searching a genuine and true Love in the cyber world and hopefully you are not to be victimized by the Scammers not only in Asian countries but every part of the World – where there is a man and woman, surely there is a SCAMMERSSSS!!!!!.Internet
I met a a couple of Filipina online, and soon they were asking money for some reason. Some reasons are easy to flatten. Hospital bills: Ask the name and contact details of the hospital (confirm this online) and call the hospital. All of a sudden, she says the hospital doesnt accept incoming calls ! School Fees: ditto. The school has no Bank and no phone and cannot accept direct payments ! Pharmacy bills: Most pharmacists speak English and have a phone, and some would accept CC payment, if necessary.
There are many genuine and honest Filipina, but these dont spend there time in Net Cafes. If you choose to put some poor girl on a WU scholarship, be realistic about your expectations
So True a word was said , as there is so many ways these woman lay awake at night and dream of the next scam approach and unsuspecting victom , another Education scam is this > a philli woman u are taken with talks to u and u like her and she carnt speak good english so because u like they say are best to send her to school to only learn english as she ” Doesnt talk or learn english ? ” Thing is all schools teach english as second languge in Philliphines as this is a neccessity for there Economy or if travl abroad they use it so stands to reason why they have a second english language but the scammed is aske to send to school so she can brush up on english ?<<< No money to no person U dont no? Example if I knoched on your front door and asked you for $10 would U give a total stranger your hard earned money ??
The main thing is in a philliphino family is and U must realize is pinai woman are hard working in any field there job is in but the LAZy arse MALES who are in these familys dont contribute much as they either have Sisters/Ante/daughters/cousins/Relos working in other countries as easy than men to place gain full employment in a foriegn country as DH or a Job of means , which equates to why work at all when the woman oversees or in pinai have a job and i can sit arround waiting for the Female worker to give me money to gamble with and get drunk and laze arround doing Zip all day , I know Most men work but theres a huge percentage that do as i mentioned and this is why there are unfortunately alot of single mums as the dad runs and grabs another woman after haveing kids and then doesnt help woman contribute to kids best start in life and hence is why woman look to western men for scams as they no most W-men are good family first before them types as compared to lazy pinoy men
Dont give money to Know person U dont no or in any manner as once U give then u become a tap of available credit when manipulated in any storey she can push U and well one thing i have learnt is all times being in pinai is that Woman who work are proud of them and wouldnt ask U for any money <<<< to 1st get U there so can work charm on U and always ask when U come there ?? because then they have best chance at charming U for them and A true Pinai woman is the most jealous woman u will see but when U understand them and culture Whod blame them when they get a decent western man as we dont iltreat them like there own males do , Man best way give no cash and dont promise or show any wealth when there best to go unshaven rag clothes and minimal fashion clothes as they assess U on bags, watches , shoes , phone etc as to amount of wealth , on a whole a good true pinai woman is the best wife a western man could wish for as they commit to husband and family but need western guy to sometimes help her with family issues and what guys forget if your sister was pennyless youd help so when U marry a pinai woman u marry whole family , met family first access wants and needs never offer money cry poor for u first as this helps to stop them asking and Find a decent no asking woman and treat her with respect and care for her and U will be happy . Hope helps decent guys find there One for them
I love going back to this site from time to time just to remind my self that relationships that started online simply would never work! I also love reading posts of foreign guys who keep on telling that all Filipinas are scammers. Just makes me wonder though, why do you guys considered having relationships with Filipinas if you think that we’re all that bad? Hmmm, perhaps there are sooo many reasons why you can’t find your mates in your own countries? Feel free to share, I’m all ears…It also makes me wonder if it’s because of our own orient beauty (that u often refer to as exotic) or is it because of our submissiveness to give you all the pleasures you need even if you require so much kinky fuckeries. Ohh, maybe…, it’s because more of the latter, right? and you think you can get those for free?! Hello u guys, ur the man ur supposed to be the provider for everything, if you can’t do that then don’t get into a relationship with any female not just Filipina but from every corner of the world. We give you all the pleasures and the kindness u want but you also have to sweep us off our feet from time time, be our superman at least, be the answer to all our problems and our family’s problems. Would you want your filipina gfs faking her orgasms while ur doing it because she’s too worried about her family problems?! get to know us very well get to know more about our culture and how we love our families and our clans. I am soooo wishing right now that I could find a site or a forum about filipinas hating their ex-foreigner bfs too and show them this thread, hmmmph!
I have seen both sides of searching for love in the Philippines and I have learned from the mistakes I have made and now i am currently engaged to a Beautiful woman (I met on DIA) and also have a friendship with another i met on there but I have also been scammed and that was due to my own lack of education and gullibility and loneliness. I would tell everyone do not judge the Filipino people until you have been there and walked in their shoes, Most of them are a very caring, loving, loyal, jealous (if your not ready for that you’re not ready for a Filipino bride 🙂 ), honest and as it has been said when you marry one you do marry the whole family so expect to be asked to help because it is part of the culture there when they have extra they share it that’s just how it is if you don’t wish to share with your new family move on because it will drive a wedge between you and your girl and it won’t last. but for some not having anything leads them to the dark side and just like every where in the world there are the dishonest and lazy who take advantage or others. For those of you that have been scammed, used or taken and harbor resentment and anger toward the rest of the Filipinos stop looking for love there because you won’t find it caring that baggage in your heart. There is a lot of useful information here but there is also a lot of bad mouthing and that is not useful I understand the frustration and need to vent
My advise is to learn from the past and move on and try again but don’t bring the past with you and then have no room in your heart for love
Well said Anna, But please remember that not all us foreigners are like that.
But I agree, if you love a filipina, you must also truly love her family, that is the culture that one must accept if it is to work, and if you truly love her and her family, how can you or your wife stand by and watch them struggle while you live in style?
If you show her family real love, they in turn really love and view you as part of the family and she will view you as her superman and out RESPECT the real basis for true love, will adore you. I know this from personal experience.
WHAT IS FRUSTRATING RIGHT NOW FOR FILIPINA WOMEN ARE THESE SICK SEX PERVERT FOREIGNERS COMING TO PHILS… before their feet touch down the Philippine soil they studied the culture and once their here and met their Target…they sweep off their feet by showing fake good attitudes: taking the family to a good resort for a short holiday, promising to open up a family business, sponsoring relatives schooling etc…BUT ONCE THEY GOT A SEX VIDEOS OF THE FILIPINA WOMEN HE IS DATING….HE WILL FLY AWAY…accusing the Pinay for being unfaithful and HIM flying home with an additional collection for his own Porno Sites…then after a month comes back again to victimize another Pinay…..We have notes he had owned several dating sites.
Well..we know of one old european guy who had just started conquering PINAY WOMEN last year……his days are numbered in Phils, and a Womens group is working on to TOTALLY BAN sexpats like him.
Nothing would make me happier than to see the whole Angeles city crowd run out of the country. I am a foriegner who spends much time in your beautiful country. I am married to a filipina whom I have built a family business for and a nice home, It will take me another year to completely pay for everything.
I know my wife is faithful and truly loves me for the love I have shown her and her family. If you cannot accept that those who can are expected to help family and that showing this kind of love for her family is the surest way into her heart, then you are in the wrong country.
It makes me sick seeing all the foriegn guy’s on the plane talking about how much pussy they are going to get. They are a disgrace to their countries. they are exloitive pigs and give the rest of us a bad reputation, making people see us and our spouse as a john and a prostitute.
The difference between a western woman and an asian woman is that the asian woman will view her husband as a hero and love addore and respect them for all their efforts to help the family and make themselves a part of their family, a western woman takes all she can from a man, and then divorces him and takes the rest and all he makes for years to come, for themselves only, out of pure unconcienable selfishness.
Filipina’s are beautiful and exotic and show as much or more devotion for their mates than he does. If he is stingy and unwilling to share his good fortune to help her very own family, he is showing no love for her or her family, yet he expects total love and addoration reguardless? It has been my experience that with most filipina’s, what you put into your relationship is what you will get out of it and more.
Glad to hear a positive reply from you Daniel. In my own simple way, I only expressed that we are not all scammers. I’m happy for you and your wife but unfortunately, I haven’t met an expat like you.
Not all but mostly a scammers….sorry to say this but the reality is real!!
Hi Anna , i liked what Daniel says and puts into action as hes the genuine man like my self and im married to a Beautiful Filipina , who some times frustrates me because says im ugly when shes hands down a 10 to a western fat arse hippo bum and total trash mouth and this is why guys give up and venture to fillipines , thailand, lazo, and cambodia and Nam , not for sex?? a life partner whos NOT COMPLEX like western feminist woman who wonders why men now dont look at her and marry a caring asian woman .
Im not here much as im married and happy , I respected my why first time i met her and then as we wanted more asked me to stay with her family , and because i like her i went through the Family meetings and stares and worries and the third degrees and was not in a hotel as i stayed for her in a slum area as parents can only afford but i have removed them from there in my caring way ,as they are so caring and loving and most are hard working there to , i was asked to help uncle ante cousin and help and she told me its something i need to no You will do is help family in time with things , I told her and to my morals was this , I marry you first and look after you and me and kids like i must as i must work to live and do not need government hand outs BUT if i have spare after we pay all expences i will help when can OK so my wife to be said good you now no to love me IS TO LOVE MY WHOLE FAMILY and i will be good wife as this is the way our familys work , we are all genourous and if you can not be like that they will not tollerate and argue with me , and this as we all help when needed and just want you to no from start .
When i walk down street with GF as she was 5 years ago and EVEN NOW?? when married and this is so wrong as i believe fillipinos are some times racist or justs as i would say Egg heads and please dont tkae offence as when i post i hope is to help guys who look for a decent lady is help , She is Viewed By the Fillipinas town or neighbours etc as a Prostitute because is with a western man ? They Dont No me? or who i am and my upbringing to them under god . And what i do for her in my life is take her from poverty and make her a princess and made me happy as she is a true pinai wife but jealous is her to but i looked at her for what was her personality and her mannerism and her nature < may i ask AGE doesnt matter woman say ??
Well my wife says it does as this is how men find scammers as im 8yrs older to my wife compared to these sex tourist who are 20 or 25 supporting there egos of lost youth to a 18year old lady ?? there just so laughable as to be fair whos the fool them or the woman as these men should have a fillipino listing of sex tourist offenders and ban them for good , cheers hope was constructive
Bob I thank you for liking what i said. However I must point something out to you. Like the local filipino’s who do not know you or how you were raised, but they assume your wife to be a prostitute is very prejudice, so also it is Prejudice to assume that Couples who are 20 or 25 years apart in age are a joke. I say this because I have known filipina women in my own country who have married men much older even though they were already living here and citizens,
The older man is what they preferred, also My sister a caucasian woman married at 26 a man of 53, And no he was not rich, he is a social worker, while she owns a highly successful internet based business.
Consider that to your wife, maybe age does matter, and I am sure many scammers will say it does not matter, but there are also those women who truly do prefer to be with a man much their senior.
Like those prejudice against you, be careful not to judge others in the same manner.
I remember my first trip to the Philippines about two years ago. I was flying there from Los Angeles. When we landed in Taipei (flight connection) I sat next to another American. He was an older man, scruffy looking needy a bath, but after flying that long I guess we all could have used a shower.. It wasn’t long before we started talking. He asked why I was heading to the Philippines,
I told him I met online a very wonderful Filipina and was going to meet her. He asked her age and I told him 45. He quickly snapped back WHAT??? as though he got hit by lighting. I said 45 years old, why? he asked my age (50) after telling him he said my you look much younger then 50. He said why someone so old?
I said Excuse Me, I’m not sure what you mean… I’m 50 years old and she’s 45 we love each other. She’s not old she’s younger then me.. He said but you can get any woman you want over there. I mean young 18, 19 , 20’s and then he proceeded to tell me about all of his perverted sexcapades he’s had through out the years, with young Filipinas for as little 2 bucks he would have even his filthy toes sucked. by then I had heard enough, got up and walked away. The guy that was telling me that was some old white guy he told me his age 72, but he looked much older. His teeth was a yellowish brown color and I remember thinking Gosh who could stand being with him!
I’m Black American. I met my Filipina and we are still together.. Actually I love her. It’s been a challenge, because of the cultural differences but if you work at it. it’s work out. I’m telling you guys this because I want you to know, that everyone has their own agenda. you guy’s know when you’re going over to Angeles City. You know, you’re not going there to find some church girl, so stop acting shocked when you find out you got beat at your own game! Sure, many are scammers.. but this is the real world! Your dealing with the Philippines… Filipinas are not stupid, so get out of that mindset. stop blaming others for your own mistakes… Take responsibility for your action…STOP SENDING MONEY!!! Catch a Flight and Start living !!!
Well said sir, I applaude your way of handling the old pervert, and think you hit the nail right on the head.
Cheers.
I applaud trust and credibility where it is due; we must never paint everyone with the same brush or stereotype. It also pays to be alert as your first duty is to yourself. Having been scammed myself I found there are trends which could give pointers to the sincerity of your intended lady. If you met her in a chat room where she was modelling and you want to save her from such a life you have to confirm IF she really WANTS saving. There are confirmed models who are out there to earn an honest living as they are poor; however there are other bad-apples who do the honest girls a disservice by scamming anyone they can. Let’s try to avoid disappointment ! A few things to think about are here ….
– the benefits and costs of her moving her kids and herself to a bigger nicer property in a safer area – take care to confirm the old and new addresses
– the trauma about what-will-we-do-with no internet connection during the move – although you will be told there’s no connection when in fact there is. This is for her benefit so she can continue camming during the time you think she is laboriously moving furniture and belongings to the “new” place. Don’t forget, the benefits will outweigh the trauma of moving, then the suggestion of moving to a better ISP provider will be tabled
– don’t even begin to think that the internet connection she had at the “old” property will be transferable to the “new”
– the benefits of purchasing TeamViewer, SplitCam , ManyCam and other applications will be raised in a bid to help her get more custom – but beware – they could be used behind your back
– the benefits of purchasing a bigger better faster pc if it doesn’t already exist
– the benefits of her kids all having their own mobile telephones if they don’t already possess them
– the benefits of setting her up with her own little business [popular here is karaoke, etc]
– the benefits of setting up your own studio in addition to the undisclosed one(s) she already has. This you may think will provide an extra buck or 2 – yes it will, but you won’t see a red cent of it because the employees in the studio will be ones who are controlled by her already and the clients will be other boyfriends further up the league table than you will ever be.
– the explanation you have to offer for chatting with one of her friends without letting her know – even though they are so loyal and networked, they will have chatted about you already. Don’t forget the contact they make with you are not niceties – they’re money extraction methods.
– the reason why her webcam seems to freeze after about 10 seconds and why its always around 10 seconds
– the reason she wasn’t online at her normal time
– the reason she STARTS TO TYPE IN UPPER CASE from time to time – this is to not mistake her chat with you with the other chats she has open
– the reason there is always the same Guest Number in her room – this is simple for you to do too – just create a camsite id beginning with Guest
– the reason there is a mismatch from the view you last saw when her webcam froze to what you see when it restarts
– the reason the chat in her room stops showing or scrolling when you visit it
– the reason her room mysteriously gets disconnected when you visit it
– the situation when you thought you saw her room online immediately after she said she was on her period and wouldn’t be working
– the situation when she asked you to look for something for her on the web and you realize her eyes are everywhere except looking at you – whilst you are looking for that thing on the web she will have taken another Private show
– the situation you realize her hands are typing but you are not receiving any messages
– the reason she opens yet another room when you visit
Filipinaexpert.com
This thread is getting longer and longer and what is it solving? I like Bobs letter a few posts back. It shows exactly how things are. What really gets up my nose is that the Philippines think they have a right to expect foreigners to support HER family as some sort of cultural tradition. Let me ask Filipinos how many times do women get pregnant and the Pinoy guys just abandon them, how many Pinoy men are forced to provide for her family be it whatever they can afford according to their financial ability. Foreigners are the banks so therefore they must remit amounts proportunate to their wealth.
No culture has the right to ask someone from another culture and expect them to donate money for anything. Foreigners have their own culture and are entitled to follow their own rules regardless of living here. Foreigners do not support their families and so shouldnt support the filipinas family either. You think Filipinos are poor and thats what gets to our guilt. Well let me tell everyone of you dumb foreigners that Filipinos DONT MIND BEING POOR they were born into it. Why do you think there are so many smiling people here if they are all so misserable? Go to Southern Europe and you will see what misserable people look like. It makes me sick.
So stop being fooled and wake up. Its a free world isnt it, or does the Philippines make its own rules, seems like it does? Unless people are dying from malnutrition like in the famine in Africa I dont give a toss. All this being tied to their families is an excuse the culture has made up and now foreigners believe it to be gospel and play by their rules. Foreigners pay for everything in this country in tripple payments compared to Filipinos and nowadays even love has a price here.
Any culture that has any dignity and respect for itself will NEVER EXPECT MONEY or ASK FOR IT (in the name of tradition).
Filipino women need to have some guts and say to their families, look, my foreigner guy has his own traditions and his tradition says my family is my responsibility. But they wont,do it. Why is a foreigner more interesting to them then a Filipino man? think about it.
http://www.filipinaexpert.com – for foreigner advice
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I have been to your website and sister website and you remind me of the sex mongering idiots that give genuine foreigners looking for love a bad name and promote the idea that the Philippine woman are just something to use and control here is a quote from the website
“Filipina don’t care if the foreigner is fat, ugly, in a wheel chair or old. In fact they prefer such men to healthy young good looking guys of 30-50. We haven’t found a scientific explanation for this phenomenon yet but we are working on it. Filipina are only interested in security for themselves and their family and will commit themselves to a foreigner. You will need to lay down the law and make sure she is not going to be mikling you for more and more money to give to her family which is common here. We suggest you move to a different part of the Philippines well away from her family and relatives in all cases. Never settle down with a Filipina in the same area as her relatives, that way it will be easier for you to control the situation. In all cases if she is too much in whatever such as being too lazy, bossy or demanding just show her the door and get another one.”
lay down the law? control her? show her to the door and get a new one?
and you wonder why the woman take advantage of the foreigner if she can you treat them as if they are cattle and this is how you educate the foreign guy to be! you disgust me and give the rest of us a bad name!
Good comment Dave and I agreed with your opinion and suggestion.
Thank you to shares with us… .
Dave you haven’t seen what goes on here. The truth in the Philippines is stranger than fiction if you havent already noticed then you havent been here long enough. but if you are happy and your other foreigner friends are as well then I am happy for you but accusing us of giving foreigners a bad name, oh please, what are you afraid off, FREE SPEECH? .
I am all for Free Speech! or I would not have commented and everyone has their own version of truth
I have seen what goes on there and I am involved with someone there I have been there to see both sides of the coin and I have been the newb and lost money and heart there. Tell someone to be cautious and educating foreigners as to how they might be scammed is one thing and I and everyone else appreciates it BUT to advertise that it is ok to treat people like I have read on that web page is not ok and the only reason any girl would let someone do that to them is because of the conditions they are trying to get out of are worse and they are not in it for love or a relationship and if you are going to choose a girl because she lets you control her you are not looking for love, a western girl would never stand for it but it sounds like you want us to expect it from them and that is not love and the good honest Filipinas see that treatment and that is what gives the foreigner a bad name you talk about how the pinoys treat the girls there like we should treat them the same way and be no better then them?
that they should expect us to be no better then them? the whole reason they look at us is because they want someone better then them! you want to treat as they been treated?
how about this if you have a girl in the USA how much you going to spend on her as your girl friend/wife a month lets say she no work? 100-200 a month? and if you have a kid? but the idea I see promoted here is they don’t need money? they used to being poor! don’t give them money! but it would ok for a girl in your home country why? because they ever been poor? they aren’t used to it? they have a word for double standard treatment but it eludes me right now 🙂
as I said before these is a direct quotes from the website
“lay down the law? control her? show her to the door and get a new one? (as if she is a piece of property)” and this is the pitch to guys thinking about retiring there
they do care about if he can take care of them and their family and how he treats her if not she doesn’t love him and if she does then she will take his side, back his decisions and protect him from the bad elements of her family and or traditions and also “if” you want to educate the foreigner they you should let them know that family is very important to them especially since they have grown up with very little so if you find a good honest girl there who loves and you make her a part of your life “EXPECT” to also make them a part too they will “EXPECT” help from you “EXPECT” money from you if you have extra that is how they have grown up and if you have extra give them something if you don’t or you saving for something tell them you can’t right now and like I said if you are there for love and get a keeper for love she will back and protect you from things.
to all of you guys that read this that are looking for a Pinay as a wife or girl friend you can find a good one and when you do hang on tight and treat her right
but in your search use common sense there are some out there that will take advantage of you and it’s true in your search don’t send them money thats how the bad ones work and the new ones learn how to take advantage. don’t get into a romantic relationship with anyone until you have met them and spent time with them first I know (i really know) it is hard not to but you will be better off the ones looking just for money usually won’t invest the time getting to know you over long time with out a commitment and see money and when you go first time DON”T go and stay in big city’s pick the resorts and tourist places so if you girl no shows you still have a good time and if you make a few friends before you go then you can meet all of them. If you are just going to try to sleep with them you’re a looser in my book and probably haven’t read this far and if u have go back to ur sexpats webpage
Well Said Dave as to be fair the forum is to show a scammer and warn people of certain risks associated with relationships and as i married to a phillipina who is the real deal and alot of guys unfortunately have fallen fowl of finding a true lady and may i add YEP i was scammed to before i found my lady .
The Main content i see is Dont trust by the male and the woman return fire accusing men of using woman and other underlying themes and i dont want to dwell on this as it is not constructve but helps to see the points and is on a whole the forum helps all who read and participate .
Dave your post should promt many views but Im with you as what you mentioned is well so true as men complain about the woman and to be fair you are married to a girl there and well its the package deal guys forget as its the whole family you inhereit .
My case is this , i met my girl 3 times in another country as she was a DH there and I met my girl at a resort when we got serous to reduce the risks of lobbing and hoping and being stranded in a city environment like you indicated , and well she new and we disccussed many items over my first 5 week stay along time back which was she had fears i was one of these ANGLES wankers who go there for there Rand R as i wont say but 70% of germans ? englishman? Usa? and Australian ? and europe guys who venture to angles city go there for site seeing ?and over 50% are married men to i no this as when we once went to dinner there i went foolishly to a restraunt bar and when my girl went to the toilet a guy asked me this ” How is it does she do this BRO? and are you married meet the boys at the bar ? and we just come her to angles because our wifes have headaches and allow us to come here for our sex appetite and every year we come ?? As long as we return back to wife its ok as we keep marriage alive this way ??/ i said ok bro and as he was a drunken middle age FW i declined grabbed my girl paid the bill and ive never been to angles except to the hardware to get materials to fix our home and my wifes mums house also as this shows the men there are a bunch of tossers .
It is for one thing only and is offered to them so they treat and abuse the woman like cattle and it Earks me to think these people are getting easy advantages over desperate woman and what guys forget to in western countrys a Hooker does it for lifestyle and cash to have a status life?? and in Angeles City the girls if you ever talk to them on a of the topic basis and ask about them you will find this underlying content , I do this as i need money for my family and i have a child to my dead beat Bf or Husband who ran away from commitment and got another woman after he made me pregenant ? Yep imagine in the west you do that they will hunt you down and make it stick .
To Help ALL is best and to coin a old Uni proffessor saying of mine is ” Education is not Education unless it is actually discussedand passed on to another and Information passed on to the next generation ” Which makes it Education of lifes experience and helps all involved to grasp the concept and stop the scammers networks .
In my case this was me
1 ; Scammed in a help me and my nature allowed this as she was a thai girl
2 ; Found a girl by shear chance as went to a holiday on a tour to a country were my girl was a domestic helper i bumped in the street when shopping and she helped me with directions with her co worker gf and i then bumped her in a park walker her toddler as she was the caring fo as is her job so said to myself ok well i ask her out to se if she woilld like dinner with me , i waited 5 days for her as she needed the off day and well luckiest thing i ever did was go that park for a clear the head walk
3 : I then Developed a relationship with in a positive sence ” She never asked for money as is a self earning woman and does for her ”
Many guys forget ? a woman who earns her money dont want hand outs , this is why there scammed as the ones on net do this for a living and alot on dating sites are married woman look at there pictures u van see wedding bands and suntan marks as unfortunataly some guys think with the second head than to evalute them first
4 ; When i went back to her some 3 times she new i was serous and said ok we meet family ?? Yep the dreaded one day of turmoil . Men dont like this if not serous is my point as use for sex and run to another as the genuine guy meets and excepts them on any basis
5 ; I been there many times since and the family you marry is all her and all her means strongest bond a man who believes he can remove? and control her? is set for a fall as this is her culture and love is her family as the man and her kids are to , she will side with husband and her kids but her family comes 2nd to her
6 ; Men worry as are they going the family ask for money ? So what ? your family will to if the chips are down too in your own family.
My girl never asks i give freely as i believe a healthy relationship has no limitations and if you try to control your girl and control family its wrong , Thing is i told my wife OK if we are ok and have payed all bills and have extra and dont need to save for a item you can help , She says yes and thanks but we come first then we help them of have to but You must do something for me .THING is men Be warned a shore sign of a skimmer is allways diaster and a new storey ? Is why no the person before you send money and that should be a no brainer as i did it and was scammed this way until i wise up as whenyou go to a internet cafe you can see these scammer woman at the FULL TIME JOB in the cafe with muliple web cam pages saying help me for money a guy in the USA was being skimmed next to me so i wrote on a paper in warning shes scamming you and walked past he closed the cam when seen my help and i hi tailed out of there as there could have been a backlash to me .
7 : her do something for me was this you must learn my languages ?? Yep and because then you no how to say no and will be awake to manuverves of them outside our family ok as my family they dont scam but will hope if they can ask you for money and you help means you will do every time they ask and is why i want you to no how to listen to them and not say zip then say to me in english lets go and NO means NO ,
Thing is i see men complain here? Because they go there and forget the golden rule like in the book the ” Art of War ” which says to no your enemy and keep them close for observation as this means learn the language and understand the culture or atleast no the situation of these faimily or people you meet and if you dont do this whos the fool as you go to a country not knowing what to expect and then come to the forum bitching about the Scams >> I get back to the point isnt education meant to liberate us and help control your risk of being scammed or skimmed as i found once she taught me her language i had a major advantage as i new there lingo and said nothing to them and sat back listening knowing the topics and well helps so much to be able to evaluate from the side lines .
Dave we have all experiences but what you mention in the responce post is so spot on and i wish all who read actually read the content and take note as its best to discuss and help than be negative and intolerant to others and i no we all can jus=dge without realizing were are doing it but hope all the post help the genuine guys and ladys meet there better half
Thanks for sharing your experiences – much appreciated. If anyone is interested in mine you can see the website I made at http://model.ricrip.com/m/index.html
I’m curious about the guys that have a long time relationship, — a couple of years or more, how it developed, and were you dating more than one Filipina for a while.
If so, how you were able to manage to create the breathing room to take your time about finding someone you are compatible with, but avoiding leaving a trail of broken heart?
Here’s my specific info — I’m taking the leap toward retiring to the Philippines soon. I plan on taking a two-month scouting trip, in October to see where I will live. Have already decided that Angeles is too wild west for me. I’ll either deal with the big city — Manila, or settle in Cebu.
I may do my share of mongering, spend a bit of time in Angeles, but besides looking at places to live, and really getting a better feel for the Phils, I’d really like to date two or three Filipinas, with an eye to a LTR in the future. I’ll return to the States after my exploratory trip, but then go back, long term, starting next may.
I have thought pretty specifically of the type of woman I’d like to wind up with — not to young, cute rather than overtly sexy, no children, modern, slightly independent, but not a party girl, sense of humor, intelligent, intermediate English.
My question is not about how to meet such girls– not stressed out about that, but how to date more than one ” serious candidate” without them becoming too attached too early before I have the opportunity to really determine if a LTR is possibility.
As an example, over the net at ACM, I’ve talked to one gal from Bulacan in her late 30’s — definitely cute, talked to her a few times briefly over the phone, and the phone calls went surprisingly well. While meeting on-line isn’t real, — on the surface, she sounds like the type of gal I would definitely like to date and get to know better in person.
One thing I am aware of is that there seems to be two over-riding trends with non bar girls. One is that many of the young ones in particular, but even the older ones, seem to be naive about what it takes to make a relationship. — “Man with good heart.” is nice but that’s pretty simplistic and smacks of wishful thinking. On the other hand, read maybe 100 Filipina profiles over the internet and you will find perhaps 50 of them mentioning two or perhaps three times, they want a man who is “serious, and does not lie.”
I’m not out to scam anybody or rush anybody to bed as a “vacation notch,” I don’t want to date a different girl each night. And I don’t want to rush into anything,
For the few who waded through all this, appreciate any advice you can give about “getting close with more than one Filipina but not too close, till I decide, “yeah, this seems like it would work”
How do you deal with their jealousy. How do you openly tell them your seriously looking, but not ready to jump right away. How do you keep it from getting over complicated?
Much appreciation in advance.
Hi joeschmo
I read post and understand why you think this way and each to there own approach , Ok so dating 3 to 4 woman is well up to you but be upfront and honest as it is better ok to mention you meet others as , i say this have you seen or ever dated a phillipines lady ?? as this is a major hurdle for you as they suffer this non-western woman syndrome do get but not in there degree and level that affects them so much, which you havent seen when there really serous to a potential partner as they are to be fair such loving gf or wife in time but they all suffer a 1 time affliction called the JEALOUSY syndrome hahahahh , as they will hunt you , watch you ,throw pots at you and chuck chairs as get upset at you and i think you get the drift , as there ” Wrath noes no measure OK ” and another thing is familys are tight and protective like the 3 musketeers you do wrong to 1 in clan it becomes a slap in face to family and they all can look for you in smaller towns so have a exit stratergy.
Best to be upfront and tell them and do the correct man approach as honesty wins there heart and discuss this as it will be hard to broach this concept with each girl you choose as each has different personailtys and hope goes ok with them as i would then go and say i am doing this as have been broken hearted before after been so attached to a lady but it ended in a way i wish was better and feel this if mention this upfront wont break hearts as we both no the score .Dont promis to much so reduces issues and ” Good luck ”
Angles is a hovel and if you are serous looking for a good type , head to out of city not manilla or angles pampanga and i would head to cebu and check region and island hop as there are many regional places you will like and rent is cheeper out of citys and woman are not as corrupted by the city i found ok .
Woman who say man with good heart ? Really, every woman wants this but to be fair, i been with my wife and her family long time as when u see family nucleus , it becomes apprarent why as most pinai men are lazy men and if can intimidate the woman to do all work arround house and and the control most earningswhich they gamble or chase woman with from wifes working earnings or just hit the bottle and get drunk and a huge percentage rate themselves like some western tourist who end up in angles city do as there professional playboys who break womans hearts ands then grab another as it is a sport to pinai men ok as this is why the woman say this or mention this context in general posting on the net as alot look for a man outside of country for gold bars living and then some are genuine and it is hard to work out but mostly street wise instinct will give you correct thinking as my tip is meet the prospective girls and assess and get them to travel and no interaction with family until you think ok i need to chech family out as you must and if you do scope them all of them and see if they ask you for cash and items if they do you pretty much no you will be drained financally when live with her full time . Hope helps but honest wins a pinais heart bro so good luck
What make your intention for really getting a better feel for the Philippines?.Is there no other country in ASIAN Country you can feel better place to live in?
Seem that you’re looking trouble in your life joeschmo!!.Read all the comment in this sites.What they are trying to advise to us?.
See is to believed friends!,Good luck for searching a better place to live in Philippines.
Joeschmo,
you seem like a nice sort of guy, most people wouldnt agree with your philosophy of wanting to date a few Filipinas at the same time and certainly the Filipinas wouldnt like that sort of behavior. But I am a man and understand where you are coming from. I have lived in the Philippines and done it all and know the culture inside out.
Contact http://www.filipinaexpert.com and I will be happy to be your mentor and help you on your perilous journey and be there to pick you up if you fall on your face. Its a free service. You know why its free? because Im such a bad person.
hi joeschmo,
just keep your realism and your wits about you. The ways of the honest ones are worth entertaining BUT BEWARE the methods of the scammers know no limits boundaries or rules. If you would like to have my personal thoughts i would be glad to supply them but not on this open forum. !
Hi Joeschmo,
I suggest you have to be honest enough to tell every girl you met that you are looking for real good lady and please tell every lady you dated the truth about meeting several women so they would understand and not expect too much on having a relationship with you.
Most Filipina women are really trustworthy and give their best shots when they are in a relationship, though for some girls also are as bad as you can easily identify her as a scammer or married woman pretending to be single just wanted to met foreigners for short time holiday in nice resorts and a few bucks of dollar.
Bob is right in telling you as not to promise anything since perfect Relationship that is meant for you and your lady will not happen overnight.
I had this first try bad experience about Online affairs and me with a good promising career almost lost the job because of the false promises of the guy i met, who in turn we think was just for a sex tour here in Phils since we learned he had been meeting several girls….(never thought a guy @ 67 will be that bad to trick well behave Filipina women)…it was humiliating, and true, my family had treated him well with all respect and honesty, that with the turn of events we are in the processed of banning him from coming back to Phils…..because he had little respect for Filipina women that he maybe thinks he can just play around with the emotions of Filipina women.
Here in Cebu, we can see a lot of Foreigners meetings cheap girls in the mall coffee shops, as you were relaxed seated in the al fresco resto this girls will come to you with different age level. You can also find very ideal women who are professionals working in the offices and simple smiling sales ladies working in Department stores…i think time and spaces place a very important role to know the right person….just be honest and sincere and you will find it in your heart a good filipina lady for you.
Goodluck..
Sad. Even good filipinas seems treated like a criminal. There’s no option. Well im a filipina with a canadian boyfriend. Im 25 and he’s 32. Any hint that i am a scammer? Lol! Well i never ever tried to ask even a smallest amount of money to my man. I dont need his money. I have a pretty good job as a designer overseas which is enough for me and if i want, can afford a weekly shopping. Anyway i do not shopping a lot, im only just being precise what can make with my salary. I only have a sister and my mom got her educational plan when she was still young. My mom still working as a teacher so obviously she have her own money too. Though my grandma is old enough, blessedly she doesn’t get sick, but again if ever any of the family needs to hospitalize, the health insurances of my mom can handle that. Again, I’m a Filipina. And seems like nobody can think that i don’t need money from my foreigner boyfriend. The scamming accusations always freaks me out that my boyfriend and i will never get a normal life together as people may think something wrong with us and specially ofcourse with me. Lol! There’s a lot of nice filipina out there actually. There’s no bank statement requires to meet them, just a bit of common sense and wise thinking, you can have one. By the way, my boyfriend is a working type class. He honestly asked me if i can wait a few years to have a baby after we get married, i understand ofcourse and promise him that i will help him to sustain our soon to be family. I admit there’s a lot of filipinas scammers, but guys please consider good filipinas out there who’s trying so hard to have a good reputations but misjudged by some victims who’s on my own opinion choose it in the first place. Okay respect for some different cases. Hope you dont get me wrong. Just be wise. Chill!
Dear Ezra and other wholesome and good Filipinas,
The reason Filipino women are getting a bad name is because most of the Filipino bad girls operate out of internet and in online dating sites. The internet is the number 1 first point of contact between western men looking for a potential Asian bride. First port of contact is not feet on the ground, its fingers to the keyboard. This is the Philippine front door and instead you have Filipinas scamming guys and giving the good ones a bad name. There are not many men that have managed to never get scammed online at least in some way and thats an alarming percentage which the government should be looking into because its a crime thats out of control, not just in the Filipines. They seem more concerned about terrorists by spying on our emails instead of concerning themselves with real terrorism. .
This is a crime that is hard to detect or prove and obtain strong enough evidence for ,and too costly to take to trial, and would take a police force the size of the american military to controll. Its not going to go away and its causing the Filipinos a bad reputation which is only going to get worse.
I will repeat that I am not saying that ALL filipinas are scamming on the internet but its a large percentage that are. The fact of the matter is that good wholesome Filipinas prefer their own kind, dont have good enough English and the computer skills to look for foreigners online. Most scammers are spawned in colleges where they are taught by other students in the art of extracting money out of a foreigner, because they are also being supported by one. Its the young women that are mostly doing this but its something that stays with them and they keep doing it all through their lives. I personally know a woman that is doing it as a career for the past 12 years.
Its one of the highest paid careers in the Philippines.
The real victims are the scammed foreigners, who by the way nobody has any sympathy for. Its like these foreigners are not human. They are not represented by a lawyer or by anyone and they all suffer in silence. The next thing you will say is, oh well, they probably deserved it anyway because so and so.
Just for the record I happen to have a Filipina wife that is an angel, I will be the first to say not all Filipinas are bad, but I can tell you that there are not many angels either.
I was scammed out of a lot of money in the beginning 5 years ago as well, through the internet of course, like everyone else, but still pushed on holding on to the belief that they cant all be bad, and in the end I got lucky. I lived in disbelief about human nature and still do as as a result of that. Its a bit like being raped, I cant compare it to anything else. Yet it goes on everyday dozens of foreigners are being raped by these smart young cunning women that justify it to themselves because they are helping their family or whatever.
My point is, that instead of pointing the finger and making an argument which is –
that not ALL Filipinas are scammers (which no normal person would honestly believe anyway).
be a little bit more constructive and less ignorant and put blame squarely where it hurts the most. On your own people. I know you are a proud people but so are foreigners.
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Good feedback Adams….10 of filipinas 8 of them is a Scammers for sure.
So beware of this girl and women!!!.
Ted.. I been trying to get scammed for years and have no such luck. ..I’m on 5 dating sites and it’s really disappointing not to be scammed. Just the usual come and see me “and i will take of you “.. If I did go it would be a location of my choice with a security guard who can also remove the trash just incase.
I would welcome scammers they seam to be endless source of humor ..
WOW!!! hahah… well my name is marc and i have a filipina gf since 4 years ago.
she still hasnt visited spain cause a long list of disgraces happent to her
the bill is now at 16.000 euros, and growinng up.
the worse is that i still believe her histories cause i havent got money enough to travel there. i will go there this year ad if i find out all was a scamming i will just kill the whole family with a big shotgun
proud to be spanish, with all our sins, u wont finnd spanish scammers.
unlike phillipines does
Now that you have just told everyone we will know where to find you.
By the way, you can just get a Pinoy to do it, just send him 50 euro through western union and save yourself the airfare cost..
Let me know her email, and i can tell you if she is a scammer. I have a contact at the NBI in the PH
hello Jose / marc,
your would-be reaction is a little drastic and filipinaexpert is perhaps missing the point. Look through the checklist I made when I was scammed and see how many of the items apply to your situation.
Then go to your local airport, fly to see your girlfriend and sort it out in your OWN mind once and for all. The airfare will save you spending ANOTHER 16k !
Here is what you must look for as your first duty is to yourself. There are trends which could give pointers to the sincerity of your intended lady. If you met her in a chat room where she was modelling and you want to save her from such a life you have to confirm IF she really WANTS saving. There are confirmed models who are out there to earn an honest living as they are poor; however there are other bad-apples who do the honest girls a disservice by scamming anyone they can. Let’s try to avoid disappointment ! A few things to think about are here ….
– the benefits and costs of her moving her kids and herself to a bigger nicer property in a safer area – take care to confirm the old and new addresses
– the trauma about what-will-we-do-with no internet connection during the move – although you will be told there’s no connection when in fact there is. This is for her benefit so she can continue camming during the time you think she is laboriously moving furniture and belongings to the “new” place. Don’t forget, the benefits will outweigh the trauma of moving, then the suggestion of moving to a better ISP provider will be tabled
– don’t even begin to think that the internet connection she had at the “old” property will be transferable to the “new”
– the benefits of purchasing TeamViewer, SplitCam , ManyCam and other applications will be raised in a bid to help her get more custom – but beware – they could be used behind your back
– the benefits of purchasing a bigger better faster pc if it doesn’t already exist
– the benefits of her kids all having their own mobile telephones if they don’t already possess them
– the benefits of setting her up with her own little business [popular here is karaoke, etc]
– the benefits of setting up your own studio in addition to the undisclosed one(s) she already has. This you may think will provide an extra buck or 2 – yes it will, but you won’t see a red cent of it because the employees in the studio will be ones who are controlled by her already and the clients will be other boyfriends further up the league table than you will ever be.
– the explanation you have to offer for chatting with one of her friends without letting her know – even though they are so loyal and networked, they will have chatted about you already. Don’t forget the contact they make with you are not niceties – they’re money extraction methods.
– the reason why her webcam seems to freeze after about 10 seconds and why its always around 10 seconds
– the reason she wasn’t online at her normal time
– the reason she STARTS TO TYPE IN UPPER CASE from time to time – this is to not mistake her chat with you with the other chats she has open
– the reason there is always the same Guest Number in her room – this is simple for you to do too – just create a camsite id beginning with Guest
– the reason there is a mismatch from the view you last saw when her webcam froze to what you see when it restarts
– the reason the chat in her room stops showing or scrolling when you visit it
– the reason her room mysteriously gets disconnected when you visit it
– the situation when you thought you saw her room online immediately after she said she was on her period and wouldn’t be working
– the situation when she asked you to look for something for her on the web and you realize her eyes are everywhere except looking at you – whilst you are looking for that thing on the web she will have taken another Private show
– the situation you realize her hands are typing but you are not receiving any messages
– the reason she opens yet another room when you visit
It is quite sad that the culture of earning a quick buck or the easy way has not improved among the majority of the Filipinos, and seems getting worse among the youth through the quick acces to technology. I used to work for one of the two major broadcasting network in the country and I used to wonder why there were so many young girls always on the station auditioning to be tv stars, (Ironically most of them half white young girls) don’t they go school? The media itself propagate this mentality, be a dancer for a noontime show earn money quickly why study? “Tell us your pathetic sob story hold your tears in cue and I will probably give a thousand to the saddest one”, the tv host would mock a contestant of a tv show.
What I am trying to say is, these girls learned it from the best scammers in the country , the corrupt society which gives so much value to wealth or show of wealth than education. The politicians that keeps the poor poor, that would not freaking pass the RH bill. I feel pity, anger and frustration that some has to resort to this lowlinessss out of ignorance, poverty and laziness.Nobody is educating them any better. it is a quagmire and nobody can get out.
Agree of your comment Jofelyn…
I think what you are talking about is the same here in the states. The news media, Television shows putting porn stars or others with lack of morals on TV as if they offer something relevant to society. It all has to do with shock value more shock more ratings = more money. What they fail to relies is that children are watching also and that to a child and desperate adults it seems like a viable alternative to the struggling.
I have been speaking with a pinay for about a year now. She is always saying her connection is getting cut. How much does it cost to heav internet at home? She also says she is hungry all the time and after I stopped sending her money for food($50 every two weeks) she say she has no food? How much a month does it cost a single person to live comfortably? Yes I know I have been scammed
Please stop giving alms to filipinas so they will be forced to study or earn an honest living. You are not helping the situation in this country.
Please read and share if your truly care about this young filipinas. They need guidance. It is time to change this kind of perception about filipinas.http://jmkhaprawannatellyouastory.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/my-dearest-young-filipina-educate-yourself/
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Everything is very open with a precise clarification of the challenges.
It was really informative. Your website is very helpful.
Thanks for sharing!
rule 1 never send money
rule 2 always meet them in philipines
rule 3 do not date cam girls/bar girls
rule 4 treat them with respect
rule5 do not lie
result happiness
very nice!!! so true…never rush..
Rule 1 Never Never send Money
Rule 2 Always meet them in Philipines
Rule 3 do not date cam girls/bar girls
Rule 4 Treat them with the least expenses
Rule 5 Never Give them money
Rule 6 Never feel sorry for anyone
Result I’m Happy
Taylor!, A few of them is well trained to became Scammers, The victim is normally American, Canadian and Australian. So watchful when meet them in Philippines or any webcam dating sites.This is from my past experience of this kind of girl…..
Every country have scammers, Sorry some of you fall victims of my fellow Filipina. But not all women here like that. Even in the western part they had. I joining also online dating, but the main purpose finding the one for me. I very much attracted in the western part. Some of their culture. I guess it’s need time to know person very well. When comes involve money issue never entertains them. I don’t have right to judge to anyone them, I do respect everyone opinions. Please don’t be so prejudice. What comes around goes around..You reap what you sow. What matter’s our intentions was true. Use you’re instinct. If woman really like you can gauge her without asking for anything….
in any races if women asking you for something.or money..think about it? same as a man….because if woman really love you even her difficult times she will not ask anything from you. Love can’t be solve, and buy..self respect and trust is important..Use you’re instinct. Take care everyone
Before online dating is helping us finding someone for us. Sad part it was use as bait in many evil thinks. 419 scammers, baiting others to a lured money, human trafficking, sexual exploitation etc……Never send any money from anyone you meet in online. Let them work…or else simplify their needs…live according to their means.
Your means of describing everything in this paragraph is genuinely good, all be capable of easily
be aware of it, Thanks a lot.
If you would like to confirm if they are really single ask them for Cenomar. To verify if genuinely single issued by NSO. If she still hesitate to gave you this. Then about time to think, that she try to cheat you. Be safe everyone
there are many lady boy also, they looks like real woman ask their birth certificate NSO to find out he or she…..Good luck for searching…:-)
This site was… how do I say it? Relevant!
! Finally I have found something that helped me. Thank you!
Hi there colleagues, good paragraph and good arguments commented here, I am truly enjoying by these.
i’m disappointed why you all are so hard on these scammers.. as they are endless source of entertainment and humor.. one could have them endlessly running around looking for their booty.. just don’t take this online anonymous dialog seriously.. They ask for anything…. promise them everything….so please don’t discourage them by using profanity with them in your conversations..
Remember we Have they Want ..so Enjoy ..I do..
Even when you are 100% sure you have identified her as a real scammer – what can you do about it anyway ? Write to the local Burgy Hall ? Write to the Website ? Write to the NBI ? Write an article into a site forum such as this ?
I would say the answer is completely ineffective whichever route you choose.
Writing to the local council is pointless as the corruption begins at the top; the local councillors and police are liklely to be in certain pockets. The girly camsite only cares about revenue generated thus condoning the majority of model action. The NBI can only go on hard evidence. And site forums such as this, although useful are retrospective.where everyone airs their previous scam experience.It is too late then.
Why is there no official Scammers Repository like there is for so many other fraud and vice registers ?
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I will learn plenty of new stuff proper right here!
Best of luck for the next!
The problem with scammers is sometimes you get hooked by one real good. I know this for fact. And while I was taking care of a dying parent she was taking orders from her mother back in the philippines to dump me as soon as possible. She now lives with a daddy warbucks who managed to get her, her greencard based on a false claim of asylum after she divorced me to live with him before the conditional phase was done. Right now I am trying to have her removed since I have evidence against her. It is compiled now and all i need is to have it notarized. Hopefully this one deceitful filipina gets thrown out of this country soon.
The only way is to somehow scam back. Yes, it is quite time consuming and requires contacts and money but it is worthwhile. Quid pro Quo.
If you hit the family of the scammer, then their own little scammer world falls apart. And they are so busy trying to find out what happen to them that at least they will not have time to scam some more. Family is sacred in the PH. Again it requires contacts, money and a very cold heart.
revenge? playing games? hitting them or their family back? if that is the kind of person you are you don’t deserve to have a good Filipino woman. I thought the whole purpose of this site is to educate people as to what some have experienced in the past by a “few” ( yes a few compared to the amount of honest Pinay looking for love) bad apples so maybe they don’t fall into the same thing but if you feel that because it happened to you it’s ok maybe you should not seek love in the Philippines
Dave,
NM is referring to a scammer NOT a good Filipina woman. There is a BIG difference. If the scammers don;t get a taste of their own medicine, they will never think twice about scamming.
I know what he is referring to, I have been scammed by the few I have learned I have continued my search and I have found a good one! again imho if he you or anyone else thinks it is “ok” to deceive, hurt, give back, scam etc to the “few” then you’ve learned nothing except revenge! there is a very good book I tired to read it says do onto others as you would have done onto you also one that talked about an interesting thing called Karma I happen to believe in both so if you heart is cold as ice and you think it’s ok to do it back you get what you deserve.
To my honest and warm hearted friends still looking Good luck and don’t give up!
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly to keep looking as inevitably one of the many good ones will be found. However on the road to that blissful end, there’s nothing wrong with leaving your stamp on a few deserving bad-apples. I was scammed by a whole family team; there must be deterrents.
In other words..Don’t make a close relationship of this kind of girl if you knew she is trying to scam you….Don’t ever give them money even a peso or showed your sympathy if she’s need your help….watchful guys!!!
seems to me people on both sides seem to think that it’s a game and that is too bad in opinion. If you know someone is scamming post the info here and move on if you suspect someone there is plenty of advice and help right here on this site to help figure it out. Life is to short my friends if you are looking for love it’s out there lets just hope u don’t miss it because you to busy trying to give back the hurt and pain you received from someone else
Sorry to say Dave…I have been scammed too by 2 of this kind of girl from Philippines…just I want to give a advise to all our friends here for more watchful if interested of any kind of relationship a girl from Philippines…..
Unfortunately these FEW scammers hurt the very good rest of the good filipinos, so it is about getting these few out of the way.
NM, i applaud your sentiments however the chances of that are slim. When the corruption begins at the top it is very hard to stop the rot down the hierarchy chart. I KNOW of a woman who is an “arranger” – if you need the definition of what that means, say so – she has a real job in a local Burghy and isn’t in a junior position ! Then follow the people who work processing such documents as Postal Id’s, etc etc – you can guess they are not legitimate. Need I go on ?!?! Suffice it to say, money has a one way flow – and it is not back to your WU account as a refund.
Richard, it is not my intention that somehow the money comes back to me that ship has sailed!! But if with some little effort and contacts i can make some scammer life difficult that will be just my personal crusade. I know what an arranger is, have met some of them at NSO, PNP level. Unfortunately you have to check double and triple in pinoy land. Diba!
Just found this in the net, if it is true or not i cant say. But it is a constant reminder that things can go terribly wrong in the PH if you’re not cautious.
1. THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY…MY LIFE IN THE PHILIPPINES .
It all started back in 2006, about February when I went into a dating Website and found what I will call Miss X, from Davao City in the Philippines . She came across as welcoming and sincere, telling me that she was only poor but wanted happiness for her and her baby (That she admitted that she had tried to abort). Both my Father and daughter from my first marriage actually pleaded with me to let it go and not visit Miss X, which I intended to do in June of that year. During the time we first met on the Internet until much later on in our relationship I sent her money, clothing, magazines on a weekly basis and even a camera!
In June of that year I went to Davao City , and on arrival was greeted at the Airport by Miss X, her Mother and a number of relatives. We all went out to lunch which I paid for and I should have realized at the time that something was wrong when her Uncle said had I got an International Credit Card. For these two weeks we stayed in a large apartment, and so did half of Miss X and her relatives, with me paying for everything. Even one morning another relative pleaded for PHP8,000 which I stupidly gave as he claimed his sons were ill and needed medical attention. (Later I found out this was a lie).
I got engaged to Miss X during these two weeks. We had a small party in the apartment, against the wishes of Miss X’s Mother who would have rather had a party fit for Imelda Marcus and her cronies!! During this period arrangements were made for Miss X and Her Mother to take an apartment at Landmark Three in Sasa, which I would pay for, as I decided to return to Cairns , Australia , resign my job at the Shangri-la Hotel and return to Davao . We chose a modern apartment that my Mother in Law of the future said was PHP5,000 per month which I later found out was a thousand less per month. The scamming had begun.
I returned to Australia and came back to Miss X in Davao . During this time up until the marriage at the Halls of Justice on May 12th , there were a lot of warning signs that I chose to ignore, partly to prove to my daughter and Father that I was right and they were wrong, but as you will see from this story how wrong I was !!
Miss X started to steal money from me that I left around, relatives were invited to stay at my expense and I paid for a nanny for Miss X’s baby girl. This in itself was a mistake as this gave Miss X freedom, like one night late telling me she was going to church (Midnight) but I saw a bottle of Vodka sticking out of her handbag!! Later I was advised she often met other “Boys” to have a good time
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We ahd some good times flying together to places such as Manila, Leyte, Negros and other parts of the Philippines staying in good hotels. Bought a second hand car that my Mother in Law later stole and sold.
I blundered on ignoring the warning signs and got married hoping that Miss X would become more responsible as she matured. But I was wrong and things only got worse. The Marriage day was very disappointing for me, and one of the saddest days of my life. My daughter flew in from Australia , but that was all – even Mrs Dagger Mother in law boycotted the wedding after I refused to pay for a lavish affair befitting a Prince and Princess.
As my employment meant a lot of traveling to places in Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, South Africa, Vietnam, Mauritius and Maldives I was away a great deal and as they say whilst the Cat is Away, the Mice do Play”, and Mrs Dagger got up to.all sorts of adulterous mischief. I did take her to Thailand and the Maldives , where in the latter location she enjoyed her days swimming and drinking “Sex on the Beach” Cocktails. During this time I received emails from her boyfriends telling me to leave her, as she and her Mother only wanted money from me and nothing else.
Mrs Dagger then returned to Davao and I remained on another working project in Bangkok. She advised me that her Mother had stolen/taken everything from the Apartment, back to their farm/home in Padada. When I returned to Davao I got some of the items back, but I had to also spend thousands more replacing items. Depression set in and I knew that the end was coming and I went to Cebu leaving my wife and her baby,
In Cebu I made many friends, many of which I still have. I went downhill with depression, attempted suicide and had to con my Father on many occasions to
get money from him to survive and I slid into drinking very heavily.
I decided to give it one more go – Me and Mrs Dagger! Stayed in a hotel in Digos near Padada, and then It was suggested I go and live on their farm. Lefty an outstanding Hotel Account with my Passport as security until my Mother In Law,
Paid the Account. Never seen my Passport since! Life on the farm was good at first as I was negotiating an overseas working contract, and that meant money. Once that fell through both Mrs Dagger and her evil Mother wanted me out and openly encouraged me to commit suicide. Saw some of my stolen property on the Farm and witnessed them tampering with Electric cables/Meters to reduce their Electricity Bill, and they admitted that they never paid any taxes whatsoever for farm produce sold, they motor repair shop or Sari Sari store. They felt they were above the law!!
I had to run from Padada and returned to Davao where I ran into more trouble, staying with people who did not like Mrs Dagger, but were passing back information about me to her and her Mother. Stayed here and there as now was getting Death Threats, and even stayed with another person who took me off the street, whom I later found out was a convicted Killer. My health was going downhill rapidly with Pneumonia, Electrolyte In balance and Kidney problems and I spent many nights in SPMC Hospital .
Then it was to Co Su Guin – Home for the Aged. A good modern Establishment, but lacking any form of real security or confidentiality of the patients. The management was weak and some of the male staff negligent in their duty.
There were two occasions where the breach of Confidentiality could have resulted in harm to me or death and that is no exaggeration. The one saving grace in that establishment was the female head nurse that was magnificent.
Then I thought I was saved again being taken out of that place, but alas it was out of the Lions Den and into the Lions mouth, and for many reasons I was soon on the run again after another Death Threat. I wandered the streets, spent one night in hospital again, another night in protective custody at a Police Station, where they gave me accommodation and food. Then as I was sitting beside Laurel Avenue on the steps of a derelict building a good Samaritan saw me, and took me in into their home where I am now. Other people have helped me and one in particular who I will call “Hot Potato”.
Immigration do not want to deport me, but eventually I should get out on an “Indigency Plan back to Australia I hope. But I need Justice as my scheming, adulterous, defrauding, thieving and fiendish wife has Bankrupted me, and basically just wants me to pass away. The PHP2,5 million I have spent on her has gone and she is now moving from foreigner to foreigner doing the same old thing, grabbing money with the help of her Mother. She ahs just had a Baby with her Japanese boyfriend, so all I can say she is proud of what she is doing and will continue to do so until the law decides to do something about her and her mother. Finally I still love the Philippines .
Richard H Dagger
Secret Location.
Republic of Philippines
sad to heard that…she doesn’t realized how precious you are? it’s so hard find someone who real
NM and Mr Dagger,
One solitary sentence in Mr Dagger’s heart-pouring sums it all up….
They felt they were above the law!!
….and indeed they are. I really feel for you.
Funny story just make sure you let people know it’s science fiction and your miss x is from planet X..
Hi,I am 46 from USA, my fiancee is 20,Filipina. I have always been cautious about the girls I have wanted to get serious with as it seems that they will leave their husbands/boyfriends at the first sign of trouble. this is not the case of course for all American women just my experience. This perhaps could be the “type” i am attracted to. I have never dated someone over 30 and the last girl i was seeing here was 24. Shallow maybe. but i realize I am getting older and still no children (which I do want)When I met my gf online.I chatted and talked to her for a while with no expectations as friends. I was amazed at the stories she would share with me. Doing chores for neighbors who intern would help her financially to continue ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. Her mother had to work so she would bring her baby brother to class with her at the age of 6.
All of the struggles I was hearing pulled at my emotions of course but I was still skeptical and she was only sharing,not asking for anything.
When i met her she was a first year nursing student (She graduated this year)
After a few months of chatting the next time I talked to her was after a 1 1/2 years she was getting ready to begin her 3rd year of collage. and since then we have been talking on skype morning and night every day and on the phone at lunchtime,midnight my time, to this day she has NEVER asked me for money although I spontaneously sent her 10K peso last year for a hospital bill. She was it seemed embarrassed that i sent her the money that she needed.
The humility,Loyalty,Passion,dedication and maturity level that i have seen in her is amazing to me. And like NO ONE of that age,many at 30 or even some at 40 years old where I am from.
I think that a lot of western men that meet a girl online or go to the Philippines for girls either don’t get to know them first or they are delusional in their expectations.
The first time I came to the PH was last month. I booked my hotel room with her name on the reservation so as she could check in for me (my plane was arriving at 11:30 pm)also I had a driver pick her up at the hotel before coming to the airport to get me. I also sent her $1000.00 to exchange for me so I could get a better exchange rate as opposed to the airport.
Guess what Guy’s NO SURPRISES NO EXCUSES. My money was in tact when i got there in the denominations I wanted. she was even more than I expected.
Congratulations, keep us posted and enjoy…
What’s up mates, nice paragraph and good arguments commented at this place, I am actually enjoying by these.
Gus, the contact page shows the email address you require. Also if you or anyone else reading this is going to use services shown on any website especially using an investigator, make sure you use one with a license. It has been known for unlicensed companies to change sides and warn the subject she (or he) is being investigated whilst telling the person who wants the investigation done his intended lady is squeaky clean. They then share your investigation fee. How about that ?!?!
Richard , That makes no sense to me, why would the “investigator” share the money you pay with anyone. Now, If you were to say he would try to double dip and get paid from her also to feed you bad info that would seem more believable.
Yes thats right – does it really matter which way around it is ? it still proves there is a ring of thieves.
Vito, Congratulations!!! I’m with a real Doll too!! In fact she sent me $1000.00 to come and visit her… At first I was afraid and paranoid because of hearing all the negative crap here on line. So I kept making excuses . No Money! broke.
.sorry , had to pay bills. Finally she said I will loan you the money.. Just imagine how bad I felt when this GORGEOUS FILIPINA Sent me airfare to come and see her… OF COURSE I Bought the ticket and gave her all of her money once I got there… We are still together and that was over three years ago. So please all of you losers, stop that damn complaining… it really getting on my nerves and I’m an American!
Cliff
No Filipina has that sort of money to throw around unless she is working as a prostitute or has a drug dealer pimp boyfriend.
You better find out where she works and who is financing her before you end up on the barbaque. I would be extreemly concerned.
Hi Taylor,
Thank you for your concern, I truly appreciate it. With that said, perhaps I can provide you with the facts. 1) I can sincerely discern that you are not familiar with the Philippines, as much as you pretend to be. I have no reason to lie here. I am only telling what occurred with me. 2). If you chose not to believe me, then so be it, as you have that right. 3). As for the statement you made “No Filipina has that type of money”, trust me many do. In fact they probably get it from guys like you. However, my Filipina g/f sent me the money she had been saving. She works as English Tutor. She has her own house and car too!
So, just hang in there and stop Categorizing all Filipina’s… Would it be fair if the people here in the Philippines said all foreigners are sex perverts and all they want is to give their money away for sex, and then afterwards complain they were scammed? How would you feel if that is how you were viewed? Rather then look for fault in others or accused the entire female population. Try taking the blinders off, and look for a true sweetheart. Keep in touch and, once again I appreciate your concern.
P.S. I been living here with her for three years now…(Go Figure!)
congrats Cliff! and good luck to all that are seeking real love it’s there it may take a while to find it. what is most important is to educate yourselves on the people both the customs and what to look for not to get scammed treat your intended love with honesty and respect if you treat her/him like property or an ignorant child you don’t deserve to be happy. there is some very good advice here but there is also so not so good and some advice here is from ones who have been scammed and hurt and their advice may reflect feelings that are backed by hurt and revenge. the ones who are truly looking for love and not something else will be able to make the right choices from the information
here just use you head be safe.
P.s.
This advice comes from one who HAS been scammed, hurt and found true love
Taylor
reply to Cliff
I know you are a Filipina and not a foreigner as you pretend to be. You are trying to make Filipinas something they are not by telling us this BS story. Firstly no Filipina can save that much money working as an English tutor in a lifetime. You may be able to pull the wool over the innocent and still unexperienced foreigners but not this one. So Cliff is not a foreigner it is a Filipina scammer trying to paint a picture to save her species.
Most Filipinas that get themselves involved with a foreigner do so for money, security and ambition and not for any the right reasons. They convince themselves that they love the guy so that they seem more plausible. Its prostitution gone mad.
@Taylor
You seem to have a lot of experience with girls, Wow, I for one am impressed, However can you tell me what country it is in your vast knowledge that their are not gold diggers ?
As far as Money and Security isn’t that what a everyday girl would look for ?
And since when is ambition a fault ?
Personally I see nothing wrong with a girl who wants to better her life.
The fact is that as men we still have to have common sense and i believe that anyone will know in their gut if they are being PLAYED that being said whatever you do with that gut feeling in up to you. If you allow yourself to be robbed and scammed whose fault is that?
Hey Guy’s, I apologize for saying losers.. as I know you’re not.. I didn’t mean that. What I am trying to say is, if at first you don’t succeed try, try again. Trust me you will indeed find the Filipina of your dream!
Good Luck!!
Hopefully by the time you go broke going through them.
I’m so happy for you guys, so happy and i rejoice in the surety of your comments, its like a conversion on the road to Damascus. The point is proven so now I’ll unsubscribe !
Richard is another Filipina – wake up guys !!!
Taylor
Seems like you’re one STUPID F*K! you need to stop masturbating behind your wife’s back and grow the F*K up! not everyone is as stupid as you are, and love being a loser. If you have been scammed and someone tells you they’re story, accept and be happy for them. You stupid A**HOLE!
Congrats Cliff and Richard! I wish you well.
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Love Filipina Scammers.. .endless source of humor .
Filipinas beware, Foreigners are getting smarter and your tricks are becoming old hat. Filipinas need to lift their game or face a bleek future and a possible economic collapse if foreigners stop coming here and dont get trust back in the Female FILIPINO SPECIES. Latin American countries are becoming a better choice.
I am a filipina and i know that most filipinas scam n used their foreign boyfriends. But there are some too who loves their foreign partner and in relationship because of love. Most people think of having a foreign bf is a good catch fish n thats the thinking that i do not want. I had a foreign bf before that closed my age. I never asked for money n infact do not like him first coz i love older men but he showed to me he is sincere. He sends me love letters and do phonecalls. Before he visited me. I talked to him about what other people think n he is a good catch fish. I told him that than he knows it someone else. It is true people think that. But on my part i was inlove with him. I told parents he is student n poor so they not expect he is a good catch. I fight for him. Defend him even parents said i should have someone better. After days. My parents see i love him n he loves me. They accepted us n love him. He went back n we continued our long distance relationship but i had a feeling he was not becoming true. Then i found out he has a someone there n hiding from me. Two years of long distance relationship after he visited me throw away to waste. Well. Not all filipina are the same. Im one of those good ones who is just looking for love n attracted to white guys. They are handsome n their white skin looks clean and attractive. Kik mj_sweetpinay
It’s always sad to hear of a good girl loosing out. The Philippines needs more women like you. However corresponding for 2 years and living apart may be ok for you but for a foreigner that’s just too long. You got to understand that a man especially an older one has different needs and emotions to you. You may be able to dream about him and that was enough for you but usually men need a physical connection that is just as important to them as your childish fantasy is to you.
@ Dave: Thank you!
Please scam me i have a 850 fico ..3 retirement pensions and i’m so lonely for some Real LoveI.. Have plenty of credit cards and i know where Western Union is also LBC.. I just want to see a cute filipina gambling in las vegas with me..
here is my e-mail.. thirdgearallrite@yahoo.com PS please no tramp stamps sorry that may eliminate some of you .. “Call Me Maybe ” ،♥‿♥
You guys who screamed “I got scammed!” should have known better and not bought the BS that Pinays make the best wives etc. Also, you want young firm bodies for your old, fat disease riddled bodies? You pay!! If you’re stupid enough to believe the Pinay’s “age don’t matter, looks no matter, I love you honey”, then you deserved to get scammed! Use your big head, not the little head!
To all you Filipina scamers and like minded sympathizers
You all seem to believe that a foreigner deserves to be scammed if they are stupid enough??? Thats like saying well she deserved to be raped because she was partly to blame.
You use such stupid justifications that come out of your equally stupid culture.
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Wrong analogy! Rape victims do not chase their rapists and say “come rape me”. (so called) Kano victims actively seek very much younger Filipina for whatever reason – pure lust for young flesh, delusion that in their minds they are still these 20 something studs or that a 20 something Pinay would really fall in low (unconditionally) on a guy old enough to be her father, sometimes old enough to be her grandfather!
As an example, I once joined a dating site and specified in my profile that I only wanted to meet maximum age of 40 years old (since I am in no need of a rescuer). It amazed me how many guy in their 50s, 60s and even a couple in their 70s try their luck on me!
I have no doubt that some are probably honest. However, having clearly tried their luck knowing that their age was beyond my preference? What would you call that then if not being a dumbass?? I got fed up from receiving emails from Senior citizens, I closed my profile.
Therefore, some of these so-called victims are not just naive. They became victims because of their desire for young Pinay flesh. You want young firm hard body? You pay!! Coz she sure is not enjoying being humped by some wrinkly old Grandpa.
The reason you only got old foreigners replying to you is this. 90% of Filipina looking for foreigners are either 18-25 or 50 and over. All the ones in between are married, and that goes for internet or or on the ground in the Philippines. Give any man a choice between the two age groups and they will go for the young women. The reason you had old foreigners reply to you is not because they are all some maniacs but the foreigners under about the age of 55 are still working in jobs and are married. Its only the retired or semi retired foreigners that are in a financial position to hunt for asian women, hence the majority are in that age bracket. The Philippines regards itself as a retiree haven for westerners including western women.
Now an interesting fact is also this. I am a young foreigner by normal standards and when I was looking for my Filipina wife online I was 48 and I had a hell of a time as most Filipinas want old guys, so work that one out.
you said – ‘Rape victims don’t chase their rapists and say come rape me’.
I say – Foreigners don’t chase scammers and say come scam me either. You are missing the point. Nobody deserves to have any injustice done to them regardless of if they are naive, stupid, drunk or whatever. Scammers do come with a user warning and would normally win any academy award for best actress..
I am with my german bf now and i am now starting to hesitate to continue the relationship after reading all the comments posted here. I love him very much though i had known him for a month. He is my first foreign boyfriend. I am a single mother of 3 wonderful kids and he is divorce from his previous marriage with one child. He is 9 years older than me and he says he is not rich… and i dont care if he is or he is not. after all im not after his money… i have live my damn beautiful life independently without depending unto anyone. but i was so naive about this kind of perception that most foreigner has towards a Filipina. I am now thinking if he thinks the same way too. Now i also have this doubt that my german bf is just one of those sex-tourist coming here. He will be coming this August…. i am really so confuse….love… doubts… and now im starting to feel less of a person because i am a Filipina. Pls help…
Dear Blue Violet,
Unfortunately many bad Filipinas have given good women like yourself a bad image and it’s just going to get worse in the future because it’s all out of control. You have 3 children and by the fact that he shows interest in you shows he genuinely likes you. Once he comes to the Philippines and sees so many young Filipinas walking hand in hand with old foreigners he may get other ideas, only time will tell. If he dumps you whilst he is here, it will not mean he has become a sex tourist, it would mean he is pursuing lets say other possibilities (of which there are many). There is a big difference between a sex tourist and a foreigner looking for a permanent relationship.
My advice is to keep looking, don’t give up hope because there is always an exception to the rule and there are some foreigners who don’t mind a woman with 3 kids.. However don’t judge him too soon and see how it goes, Don’t feel bad about yourself because you are not like the bad Filipinas who are only looking for money. If it works out bad, then put it n to experience. move on, be strong, determined and keep working on looking. Its very very hard and frustrating I know but what have you got to loose?
Filipino men are deffinately not going to be interested in a mother with 3 kids.
man, this is the best blogg read on the internet..
Be extremely suspicious if an online connection starts asking for money. This is a sure sign that you are dealing with a scammer. Scammers will often use excuses such as paying for an Internet connection by the minute in a cafe or library. If someone chooses to do online dating, then she should be willing to incur the cost beforehand. Do not reply to any requests for money.
Romance scammers have one goal: to get whatever you have. Whether that is your credit card numbers and bank information, money, or marriage in order to get a visa, these con artists know exactly what to say and do to use your human need for love and acceptance against you. You think you’ve met the man or woman of your dreams online. Witty, attentive, with a sexy voice, he or she says all the right things, except…
The truth not only Filipino was been involve scam don’t be so bias..it’s world problems
Your person claims to be American, Canadian or British, but then within days is on his way to Ghana, Nigeria or some other country in South Africa for business. He or she is in computers, oil exploration, agricultural equipment sales and service or is involved in some kind of mission work.Within a few days to a few weeks, he or she is mugged or robbed, or has to pay some kind of exorbitant surcharge to get equipment released. Alternatively, he or she has an accident, heart attack or some other medical emergency; sometimes his own health, sometimes claiming a family member is seriously ill. He or his “doctor,” call asking you to send money for hospital fees.If you persist in telling him that you have no money, he will ask you to borrow from friends or relatives, or sell your belongings and send him the funds. If you still have no funds, he will ask to send packages to your home for you to re-mail. These packages most likely contain items purchased with other people’s credit cards,probably those of their previous scam victim. If you re-mail the items, you are an accessory to credit card fraud and can find yourself subject to prosecution.
This mostly happens..if you just be keen you’re mind….and do thorough research. Don’t be so stereotyping
If you’re in search of a significant other, you may encounter some unscrupulous people who will take advantage of the fact that your desire will cloud your judgment. Learn to spot a romance scam before someone cheats you out of your money, your time and your trust.Dating and romance scammers attempt to lower defenses by appealing to an individual’s romantic or compassionate side and play on emotional or societal triggers to achieve the response they crave. These scams play out when an individual meets someone over the Internet or through and advertisement who quickly begins to profess love and ask for money or gifts.
International dating and marriage scams have mushroomed in recent years, helped by the popularity and global nature of the Internet. Criminals prey on lonely people seeking romance in their lives.
The answer for that….don’t be so emotionally..be feel complete and happy…emotionally unstable people more easily take advantage of you. Use you’re instinct not be so prejudice here
Use your head and not your heart when searching for love online. Internet dating no longer holds the stigma of the past as more people discover this convenient way to seek companionship or find romance. However, placing your trust in a stranger can make you vulnerable. The Internet provides the anonymity necessary for fraudsters to find their next victim. If you are blinded by infatuation, you will overlook the red flags and become a prime target for con artists after money, your identity or a United States permanent resident card.
See not only Filipina was scammer…So How about some people here being lured and take advantage there situations. Grow up….
Relax. If someone is legitimately interested in you, they will not rush you into commitments of any kind. Scammers often ask for an email address to correspond outside the confines of the dating site. They may use Web-based email accounts, such as Hotmail, Yahoo or Gmail. Many legitimate people use these accounts, but accounts provided by Internet service providers are easier to verify.
Protect your assets and identity.
Keep your wallet shut. A fraudster may ask you to cash a money order and send the money overseas because they lost their identification or are having problems with visas or travel arrangements. Never send money in any form to a stranger, no matter how endearing they are or how tragic their tale. Some fraudsters claim to have relatives who are dying or need an
To Eric,
No I did not just have old foreigners replying to me. Most were around late 20;s to late 30s. However, getting OLDER men replying when I’ve clearly stipulated age limits was wasting my time and their time. Perhaps they were hoping they’d get lucky. A common introduction thread runs like this “I know I’m over the age you specify, but I’m hoping that you will overlook my age…”
DUH! see what I mean? There are many, many genuine Filipinas in their 30s and 40s looking for life time partners in the west. I have no doubt that their objectives are also for a better life. The difference is, scammers around their age levels are less likely, as opposed to late teens early 20s age range.
Do we not seek love and marriage for companionship/mateship? Therefore, an older man, especially one who’s been divorced once, twice, and some even 3rd times (gee, I’d be asking what’s wrong with you?) should concentrate on a woman’s qualities that will give a prospective marriage the likelihood of surviving. Not just because she’s an eye candy.
Well if you are patient and lucky who knows you may find someone right for you. I spent 2 years talking to 600 women, 2 visits to filipines got scammed 3 times, before I finally met my now wife. I tell you though, I was just about to give up the search and she came right at the end. She is 8 years younger than me and she is the best and most compaitable person I ever met.
There are genuine good Filipinas out there, but I went through hell to find her and it shouldnt have been so hard if it hadnt been for the time wasters, the posers, the scammers and the just there curious ones..
Its incredibly time consuming and hard work, but mine did pay off in the end. I was lucky.
To La Bella
Well when you go on these dating sites ofcourse you are going to get all sorts of ages contacting you regardless of what you specify. So what is your point?
Are you living in the west or in the Philippines?, was the dating site based in the west or in Asia? The social norms are very different in both places.
I do agree that there is more chance of younger women being scammers and foreigners need to be aware of that. However it’s wrong to say they deserve to be scammed for wanting a young woman? They are entitled to choose a young Filipina and should’nt be judged poorly or should deserve to be scammed. That’s just plain old Filipina jealousy coming from you perhaps, maybe you are not so young and find it harder. I know that any woman in the Philippines over the age of 35 is considered old, over 50 and you are seen to be really old. Many Filipinas are paranoid about becoming old even worrying about getting old at age of 25. Its a hard society to understand.. Filipinas are sometimes hard to understand as well, especially if their English is not so good, hehe
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LOL! I must be old if I’m in my mid-20s then. I live in the west, a good career in the medical field, and quite attractive (or so I’m told) hence my standard is quite high compared to Pinays. And no I’m not desperate. Let us call that one a social experiment.
So the outcome of that “social experiement” was I discovered that just as there are many desperate women in the Asia (of course not just the Philippines), there are equally desperate guys in the west.
And I can understand that. Over here, loneliness is a HUGE factor in mental health and suicide. However, same lonely old men who seek a second, third chance at marriages are NOT the creme de la creme of society here either. It’s not just they are old, but old and poor (meagre pensions,a renter as opposed to howeowners) are not the preferred mates for poor western women. Why should they? And so these poor sods go to Asia to try again. But instead of being sensible and marry someone they are closer to to their age, they get blinded by the attention from these young women. However, not all get scammed. Why? Becaues they ‘ve done their research! Internet scammers have been around for many, many years. No excuse for stupidty and naivety. If you don’t do do your research, then your’re a dumbass for doing. And so, God since you seemed to champion the so called dumbass victims here, you must be one of those OLD, FAT. BALD, with rotting teeth Kanos. 🙂
To la bella
Firstly I am 53, handsome, and married. You are narrow minded and have biased views that are founded on lack of research and arrogance. I despise people in any medical field because as far as I am concerned medicine has been invented to kill people or to make them suffer more by people who work in this proffession (if you can call it that) who are sadistic and ARROGANT.
You dont even understand the deffinition of a pedofile. If a girl is of legal age then it does not matter how old her partner is, she can make her own choice. But ofcourse you hate old foreigners so to you that means they are paediophiles and deserve to get scammed if they havent done their homework?
You know nothing about the world of scamming. Scamming comes in so many forms and continually evolves as an artform by the craftmanship of your species, who are the worlds experts (comes naturally).
How many people are victims of crime and its their own fault for not doing enough research and taking enough precautions? you have been reading too many uni texts, the world is stranger than you can imagine.
You resent the fact that desperate low income foreigners can go to the Philippines and have a young wife and live well. I SAY GO FOR IT. THE WESTERN WOMEN SUCK AND SO DOES THE SOCIETY.
By the way, it is not just the Philippines (or Asia for that matter) that scamming happens. It happens in the west too! and sometimes men scamming western women. I’ve had a few female patients getting admitted for suicide attempts after a BF took everything she owned. She came from a financially secure woman of independent means to a homeless one with little prospect of regaining everything she lost. By then, another BF are the last thing in their minds, unlike their male western counter parts who tend to view the Philippines as a “wife market” (flesh market for sex tourists).
One time, a guy (western of course) told me he was off to the Philipines to find a wife, must be no taller than 5 feet tall, long black hair, brown skin and must be a good cook! . I told him “you sound as if you’re shopping for a wife”. He replied “I am!”. I find such commodification of the Filipina women demeaning.
And yes God, I do object to old foreigners picking too young a wife. Where do you draw the line on Paedophilia then? Just because one is 18 and he 75, so it makes it right?? Just because she was only 15 (and he 72) when he expressed his interest to marry her, wait till she turns 18 before he takes his booty *while supporting her through school) makes it right?? So you expect this young girl to stay faithful till he dies, alternating between changing their child’s diapers and changing his in the meantime? So just because she falls in love with a younger boy closer to her age and runs away, so that makes her a scammer?
Yeah sure, no one forced her to. Are you sure? Some of you swho ides with that argument need a crash course on Pinoy culture.
La Bella,
Although I agree with you on some points, I have got to say you sound very jaded. Don’t you think that every relationship is beneficial to either the man or woman. The age gap is very wide between me and my GF (read my story above) she can for sure find a younger BF in the Philippines as she is smoking hot, but still she talks to me morning, noon and night, her facebook page comments and pictures have been consistent to what she tells me for 3 years now. She never asks for things and is teary eyed if i am late to Skype or call her. I am however neither desperate or stupid and have my eyes wide open and I have not seen deceit in my GF at all after hours and hours of daily conversations.
That being said, I fully understand the poverty issue and how it makes a girl want to be “creative” to better her life a lot of times they turn into hookers (bar girls) and it seems to be common place in the PH and their families don’t ask too many questions because they like the money. I would equate those girls to the party girls here in America that like to bar hop, change guys like changing their panties and for what ? they do not gain monetarily for this but the results are the same… Fucked Up relationships and scrambled eggs for brains…. And I will say that they are so easy to spot as gold diggers. i believe a lot of men are trying to play Captain Save-a-hoe and get pissed if it don’t work out in the end to them I say you can take a girl out of the bar but you cant take the bar out of the girl, but the girl should have some type of gratitude for being removed from a terrible life wouldn’t you agree ?.
DONT BLAME FOREIGNERS – BLAME YOUR CULTURE
to bella
FILIPINAS PREFER OLD FOREIGNERS – they not interested in young foreigners, because older men are more financially secure, what else.
If she then leaves him and takes his house and land with her because she falls in love with some trIcycle driver, thats ok?
In your view the foreigner who took care of her, put her through UNI, built her a house is the BAD GUY?
Your mindset falls in the same category as these scammers.
we need more imput here, readers, this is getting boring
I’m sorry for all these scamming cases. I also was a victim of a Philippine romance scam some years ago. If you want to know my story, you can read it on the link of my name.
fuck your opinion! not all filipina are bad! some western guys too ..asshole and jerk! user!I was in bad luck..when i met that western guy in that dating site..i thought his really nice ..i thought were both in love! i was really overwhelm of my feeling about him ..so i gave him my full time chatting with him in 2 years ..! i never ask him anything! its just happen that i really love him..I think i was insane loving him with out meeting him in person..but sadly i do love that shit man! we do fun talk, plan in life, dirty talk, cyber sex, everytime we come online i do nude on cam and him too ..to show that even were far we can have sex even in only just dreaming..i do all for him ..! till he decide to come here in the philippines to meet me in person ,But hell ..the dream become night mare when i met him in person! i never change i love him b4 and after meeting in person.. So here’s the bad experience goes. I pick up him at the airport ,when we saw each other he hug me tight,kissing me as if he really do love me! he stay here in one week ,i go with him at the hotel we do sex every time. When we go to the mall he never hold my hands , and he always stare to other pretty woman whose passing by and give them remarks like ..she is very pretty !so i could heard him..he made my insecurities worse !then when we walk at the street we saw a bar club with many hookers ..he said direct in my face..iam lucky i fuck free! that made me cry! when we are in private place i ask him if he love me .. shit he look at me straight in my eyes and said yes i love you.. the hell why he treat me that way? that time ..i was really confuse , I ask him to buy me a teady bear , teady bear is not too much! i just wanted to felt that iam special for him…but hell, you know what he said? you are a selfish and materialistic! i was really felt bad ..he really broke my heart! So time for him to go back in his place ..i told him..you dont love me obviously! dont contact me again ! But when he got his home , he call me , and asking me to come online …i told him i felt really bad when he was here ..he said he never had woman so he dont know how to show his love for me! goshhh! any reaction? till now he always call me…but i think he just want sex on webcam.. but i never do that again with him! his kinda user! any ways..his 46 and iam 28 ..46 years old guy that dont know what to do in life ?..girls leave him alone! he will just cost you a lot of pain and emotionally abuse! so come on……..not all people are same way! so dont dare comment that just like all filipina are bad u too guys …kinda user! thanks!
tony@ see your self , ask if ur perfect crazy asshole! how dare you!almost western guy are just pervert ..thats why they use net for there fantasy for the filipino woman! we are damn so pretty ! thats why you guys are so eager to fool filipino woman just for sex!
I have my heart for you Black Lily….never trust anyone online..most men or let say 60% wester or europen guys are pervert …… NEVER EVER TRUST THEM TAKING VIDEOS OF YOU WHILE ON BED..becauSe for some they are selling that in europe…theres a BITCH OLD GERMAN GUY DOING THAT..HE IS DONE WITH THAILAND GIRLS…AND HE IS NOW TARGETING PINAY LADIES..HE BEEN HERE IN PHILS EVERY 2 OR 3 MONTHS MEETING DIFFERENT LADIES..HE HAD BEEN TRICKING PINAYS LIKE SENDING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL AND CONVINCING YOU OF YOUR PLANS TO OPEN A BUSINESS WITH HIS MONEY…BUT RIGHT AFTER HE GOT YOUR SEX VIDEO , HE WILL PRETEND TO BE JEALOUS OF YOU BY ACCUSING YOU OF MANY CHATMATES..LIKE ASKING YOU YOUR YM TO CHECK YOUR CHATMATES..ETC…ETC.. ETC..HE WILL FLY AWAY FROM YOU….AND FIND ANOTHER VICTIM đź¦
WE ARE WORKING ON BANNING HIM NOW ON PHILS
So to all white man out there, who would not say good about filipina woman ,You are a loser! disparate ! shut up and go to your room and jerk off! no one will ask u money for ur cum! asshole!
YES…FOR SOME WHITE MEN WHO ARE NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND PINOY CULTURE…THEY UNDERSTIMATE THE FILIPINA WOMEN AND ABUSED THEM EMOTIONALLY AND SOMETIMES PHYSICALLY…I KNOW THEY KNEW THAT FILIPINA WOMEN ARE SUBMISSIVE…THAT WAS AN ACT OF CULTURE BEFORE…FOR NOW.. WE HAVE THE WOMENS RIGHT TO EDUCATE THE PINAY WOMEN FROM THIS KIND OF ABUSES..
ALL IS FAIR IN LOVE…FOR PINAY SCAMMERS ,WE ALSO HAVE TO ASHAMED OF THEM DOING THAT BAD THING THAT PUTTING OUR IMAGE IN BAD SHAPE…..THEY MUST STRECTH OUT THEIR MUSCLE TO FIND A NICE JOB THAT MATCHES THEIR OWN CAPABILITIES…..GUIDE IS….NEVER LIVE BEYOND YOUR MEANS…DO WHAT YOU CAN DO TO FIND A GOOD SOURCE OF INCOME…WHITE MEN ARE NOT THE SOLUTIONS….WOMEN CAN LIVE WITHOUT MEN IN HER LIFE TO SUPPORT HER..ALL SHE NEEDS IS THE RIGHT DISPOSITION AND HARDWORK FOR HER TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE AND SURVIIVE THE HARD LIFE…
LIKE SELLING CLEAN READY TO EAT FOOD LIKE FISHBALLS AND KWEKKWEK WITH GOOD YUMMY SAUCE ON THE SIDEWALKS OR NEAR THE SCHOOL CAN REALLY BE A GOOD SMALL BUSINESS 🙂
MORE POWER TO PINAY WOMEN….
dont you just love Karma…..payback is so sweet….
Pinay women can you answer this for me, I am from the usa african american TALL MAN nice looking clean cut guy. I fell in love with a girl 22 Im 40 lives in dumaguete i plan to visit her soon, i met her mom & dad 7 brother & sister on webcam. SHE INSIST THAT I DONT STAY AT A HOTEL, TO SLEEP IN HER ROOM IN HER BED BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.
IS THIS A SETUP FOR ACCUSATIONS FOR RAPE??? ANYONE PLEASE…
how well do u know her u been chatting long? it may be more cautious for you to plan on staying in a hotel or apartment just in case everything doesn’t go as planned you won’t have to struggle for a place to stay. I got a nice apart when I went to cebu and met my fiance 300 us for two weeks but i was planning the trip for 6 months.
Good Luck to you
Hello Dave, we have been seeing each other for about 6 months online, & twice a week on phone, we laugh, tell jokes really bonded. I was told that rape is a easy thing to accuse someone of in the phillipines and that they will put you in jail no bond until you pay off the girl. So if im sleeping in bed with her at her parents home i could be setting myself up for some real trouble, She is 22 but what do you think?
I have heard story’s about similar things happening but usually it involves under age bar girls or freelancers and there is still much corruption in law enforcement.
I would still get your own place and if you feel when you meet her in person that you will be ok then stay with her. if you have doubts then listen to what your gut (not your heart tells you) I know its tough the first one I met online took me and my heart for a ride and lightened my bank account by 1,500. before i was educated then the ones who are not serious and only want money were way easier to spot and finally I met the one for me. If I may ask when are you planning on going? is it your first trip to the Philippines? also you can contact me directly hrtstpr@gmail.com
Hey, was just wondering how everything turned out? If it’s not too late I definitely would not sleep with her at her parents house. The least she could do is stay with you at the hotel, after all you’re flying thousands of miles to see her …Plus it’s a sign of respect..
Hey Big Tea! haven’t heard back from him either I hope if he went all is good!
As for me my life is great after a bad scammer start I met the one for me and after a year and a half of meeting her online and in person Dec 2012 I finally go her here to the USA on a k1/k2 visa (Dec 14) we are Married (Dec 31st) and i couldn’t be happier with her and my step daughter there is a “but” however she is 1 extremely home sick 2 hates the food here 3 hates the cold here (Minnesota coldest winter in 30 years)
to all that are entertaining having a foreign wife or husband and bringing them to your country watch the new series 90 day fiance even though a lot i think is staged it also has many informative things also understand the culture they are from and the climate you are bringing them to or you’ll have nothing but trouble đź€
http://www.dateinasia.com/flordeliz
dont let this woman fool you, she even has a page for her daughter on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/franchescaangelie.fabie?fref=ts
Not all Filipina women are scammers. I think most Filipina ladies seeking foreign men is because they want to come to the West to change their future. Thousands of Filipino girls come to the West every year. Many of them accept older men as well.
It’s truly very complex in this full of activity life to listen news on Television, thus I just use web for that purpose, and get the most up-to-date information.
everybody has their own opinion,in my case it’s rare I met my fiancĂ© on a dating site,,we exchanged emails and were very frank and direct to the point of our purposed first thing we did we proved to each other that we are real,and even check our compatibility through NUMEROLOGY,were very opened from the very beginning after 2 months he bought a ticket and sent to me a copy bought our wedding rings and sent 3000$ in preparation for our wedding,next week..but I keep all the receipts to be transparent we will get married for love and trust,,it’s doesn’t matter where where we gonna live as long as we will be together..(we can even move to mars lol) ..but we are happy and thrilled,,i know it’s rear my family and friends were still in shock I’m getting married so soon soon..but we are very much ready to commit ..after we are settled we will plan for adopting a child..all I can say,,everything is possible,,but still be smart ..trust people with an open eyes…the right person will come at the right time.
Your Story sounds about as fake as they come… Married so soon?? Adopting a Child? Sending thousands of Dollars after only 60 days??? Ahahaha! Sounds like you need to grow up and stop dreaming
Most of the American guys who seek girls out of United States Of America are just probably tired of the same old culture of women in their own country. Because the majority of them are whorish in nature. They have become materialistic and superficial that makes their morals really down the drain. They act spoiled and shallow. Well it could be bad parenting or most of the females in the US are feeble minded, they can only conform with what is going on with Hollywood. Well most of all it is also a matter of taste. But who cares about that? The topic is all about attacking A race. For all you guys who are scammed online, Why don’t you go out and find a real lady out there if you have enough balls to be in a “real” relationship? Why are you guys hooking up with girls from the Internet? My comment is maybe a clutter but my point is, name all the Filipino women who scammed you people but do not say that All the girls from the Philippines are slutty, gold-digging prostitutes. I have this inherent distrust towards western men because of what i heard and see on the news about them; being associated with pedophilia and creepy things are just two of them.Probably we all have the same thoughts that we all ponder…why trust people from the internet? . Most of the guys now are treating women like whores and they will say that they are only doing that because women are all credit card grabbers. Well first of all why are they so into superficial things? Maybe because they know that most men love curves and skanky girls. They say that women worship money but hello… Guys are are worshiping Porn and sex. So what do we have here? It’s sad to say that this whole boy-girl relationship ends up as a Whore Game. Why And how can you trust someone who is not even into you? But because of what you have? I am fully aware that the economy of the Philippines is really worse than ever but it doesn’t mean that the entire archipelago is a whore place. Why did i even comment here?!? I see here that they are only focusing on Fillipina girls, Wake up people… Prostitutes and whores are everywhere. Same as not all American guys are pedos and perverted creeps.. They are all over!!! Love can wait, Love is blind, Love is deaf and Love is also not judgmental. If you want to be all smart with Love you won’t be able to find one. Love can tame the beast and Love can purify the corrupt. And For the Internet’s sake… Go out and stop masturbating on Porn.
@Pepai and other honest Pinay.
I am James and I am planning to retire and move to the Philippines in a year and a half. I am a 61 year old retired college educated white divorcee. I do not mind a woman who has one or two children. I am clean, honest and easy going but I place great weight on honesty. Lie to me one time and that is it.
Otherwise I am so loving and fun to know. So if any are interested in a pen pal then later more contact me. PS, I grew up in Hawaii and am from mixed White, Hawaiian and American Filipino family.
no offense James, but if you’re not use to being lied too, then the Philippines is not for you. every other word out the mouth here is a lie. I wish you the best.. but know that you’ve been forewarned!
James please be very careful. If you go for young women you will invariably be duped. Take you time. Somebody who asks for money all the time is no good. Just my 5 cents
Never trust a filipina, its the best advice I can give.
beware of lilian gador/angelyn gador of pagadian in the philippines she is a scammer and works as a prositute she scammed me for 1.5 million peso yes i did meet her made wedding plans paid all the wedding fee’s then she called it off and took the money it was never paid for i am now pursuing this matter with the police and hopefully shewill be in prison soon
i know i never get my money back but just the satisfaction of knowing she goes to prison will help heal my heart and my broken bank account it will tack 5 years of hard work to repay the bank
Charles…..give it up..she will never see the inside of a jail for the police will take her side and just laugh about this. I live in Philippines and talk to a lot of people here and this thing happened all the time. I have male friends that starts chats with western men then hand them over to ladies for a fee and she ends up getting money out of him. I know a lot of highly educated ladies that do not need a western man but would like to meet a good man that she can trust but I will not connect them with any of my friends because I do not trust many western men. Just take your losses and move on with your live.
charly …you are nutty…that what I can say to u..
Hey You got any More Moola you don’t need??? I accept all handouts too…
Sounds to me you were the fool here… People are not stupid so why post this BS here!
ANOTHER CAUGHT SCAMMER IS GAY AND DRUG ADDICT with email harangangel@yahoo.com , he almost victimize one of my friend who have a gold heart helping poor filipino family..he pretended to be a woman with so many hardship life stories 🙂
I rarely comment, however i did some searching and wound up here Filipina Scammers | The Critical Thinker(tm).
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Never trust a Southeast Asian woman in general. Thailand, Philippines, etc… they all the same mentality towards Westerners. I read a few of the sob stories here and, honestly, all you losers that got scammed should have seen it coming. Man the hell up instead of crying and having a pity party.
Also… they have very bad genetics, if you’re 6’2 do you really want to have a son that’s 5’7?
No matter if some one searches for his necessary thing, therefore he/she needs to be available that in detail,
so that thing is maintained over here.
Now …I had chat mate ,his 54 iam 32 his very rich but he is disable ..I never ask him money but he did send me 5000 a week then he said if that’s not enough u can call me then I will send you again..so I was direct to him ..I told him what if I cant do love u when we meet in person?he said all iam asking you is to showup at the airport ,and be with me u can bring ur friends..we can be a goodfriend but I will fight for ur love I will give u all..so I told him ,for me money is just a secondary and love is primary ..then he said just pick me up in airport then we will know when we meet inperson ,i just met this guy on Filipino kisses..in about 6 moths after I breakup my ex ..I had been hurt b4 with a normal but jerk. now I have disable man willing to marry me..and show me respect..i have seen him many times on webcam he had really beautiful face but his disable ..honestly I don’t know how to handle disable man and iam not sure what really I felt for him, but I miss him if he dint call me if I dint see him on cam..and every time we talk iam happy ..his is really an a mazing guy his not prefect but he can hadle his life happy, his a happy person I can say that.right now iam really confuse what really I felt for him..i just don’t know ..and I told him that . but he just said he love me and he want to have me for his life. NOW MY QUESTION IS WE DIDNT MEET IN PERSON YET BUT HOW COME HE SENT ME MONEY 5000 WEEK ?DESPIT OF ALL I SAID TO HIM THAT IAM NOT REALLY SURE HOW TO HANDLE HIM.
2, ABOUT HIS FEELINGS FOR ME, DID HE REALLY LOVE ME ?OR HE JUST FELT ATRACTION ,
3 HOW CAN U SAY THAT U LOVE HER/HIM WHEN U HAVENT MEET UP INPERSON? IAM JUST REALLY CONFUSE WHY HIS SPENDING MONEY FOR ME TO THINK THAT WE JUST MET IN ONLINE AND NEVER IN PERSON YET?IS THIS POSIBLE THAT HE REALLY LOVE ME?ITS SOUNDS ODD..I need advice ..
This Trishtine Del Valle person is stealing somebody else’s identity.she is not the one in the pictures……https://www.facebook.com/trishtin.delvalle?fref=ts
Trishtine Del Valle is a scam artist.She will definetely milk your wallet dry.Be aware and be careful
Ibang klase tlga tung fan page or group page ng isang internet celebrity na kadugo ko.pa-anti poser poser pa kuno pero mahilig mag NAKAW ng pictures dun sa mga kaibigan,kakilala o KAMAG ANAK ng mismong tao whether sa FB o sa Instagram o sa Webstagram o kung saan man tapos mag po post sila ng lumang piktyur nung insan ko with her ex boyfriend and then palalabasin nilang bago eto by changing the dates or modifying the dates(cgurado akong mga IT tung mga putang inang mga to) kahit isang taon na ang nakalipas.Tapos yung mga poser nman gagamit yung mga piktyur na pinost ng said fan page which means pareho pareho lang silang MAGNANAKAW.Alam nyo na siguro kung anong fan page itechi.Ni hindi naman sila kakilala o binigyan ng pahintulot ng maganda kong insan…
Eto yung putragis na fan page na ang ip address sa pasig located.uulitin ko na wala silang credibilidad.pareho lang sila ng mga poser na magnanakaw ng retrato
https://www.facebook.com/RiaSacasasOfficialPage
TRISHTIN DEL VALLE IS SCAMMER.SCAMMER IS TRISHTIN DEL VALLE
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Hello everyone. I’ve been living in the Philippines nearly a decade. The bottom line is this, “They can’t be TRUSTED!” They really, and I’m being completely honest, don’t know or understand the concept of trust, honesty and pride of truth. Of course this goes with BOTH Pinoy females and males. Give ’em a hand and they will take your arm!” is a realistic saying here especially when dealing with males. Females on the other hand are not only overly secretive but have such low intelligence they really think foreigners are stupid. Generally shallow, materialistic and temporal. Take it from me and I’ve been wise NEVER to give out money like an ATM machine and because of that they will respect you on one side, but on the other side they will try to find one to provide them with money and hide it as best as possible!
The one that you think will be really worthwhile (the 1 in a 100 girl) will likely turn out to be a very good liar and hider….ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE SEXY! That is the price!
My prior asian girlfriend, who really could be trusted, said Filipinos are the worst and lowest class of Asians. Perhaps it is culture…and the culture really sucks here! There is little real culture!
For us Westerners, TRUST and HONESTY is the likely THE ultimate foundation of a relationship…..good luck building a stable structure that will last with a Filipina. It is not impossible but go with the numbers. You are looking, probably, at 1 in 1000 chance of finding (.1%) a hot and sexy filipina that will be really trustworthy. Good thing there are millions of them!
The price of sexiness is high and so is the competition. The best cases i’ve seen is where the woman is not sexy then the chances are more in your favor.
If they look like a slut, act like a slut and walk like a slut….guess what!????
I don’t get it..if they are that bad why in the hell would you torture your pitiful self and stay in such a bad environment. You make the claim “you been living there close to a decade”,as though that’s something to be proud of..
no offense but its really time to grow up and go back to your old Asian girlfriend that is so trustworthy or pack your bags and get the hell out of the FIRE!
@Reggie…yes I’ve been here about a decade but NOT FOR WOMEN, which i failed to mention. It’s been my first lengthy experience after a LONG TIME of observation. There just happened to be this ONE that sparked my interest and i gave her the benefit of the doubt. That is love, you can’t help it. If you are here long enough anyone is bound to run into something that they think is superb. There’s many wonderfully scenic places in this country and yes i’m proud of having been here for so long and spending so little as compared to the west!
Hi all, I have just cheated by a Filipina. I lost about 12000 ringgit Malaysia. We knew each other on a website called FilipinoCupid.com. Her name is Vincess Sales and she’s such a cute and pretty girl.
She’s really expert in cheating people. All the fake stories brought by her were so real. Hospital fees, airport terminal fees, bus and taxi fares, travel check and pocket money for immigration checkpoint, bla bla bla.. Everything was planned properly and looks like real! I was so trust in her and that’s why I lost that much of money.
sorry for what happend to u..like i said “dont give anything”..hope that it wont happend again to others..
Hi
I have a question:
As far as I know, the law of consent says 12 years old.
So is it ok to have a relationship with a 17 year old filipina?
Or is it risky?
Thank you.
depends..but its too risky..18 is the legal age in the phil..
Hi may I know how I can hire a honey trap for a guy in Dumaguete City?
Hi I learned this the hard way too. The pinoys are respect full and helpful. But the woman I met online said she will meet me in manila. I sent her 1000 php for bus fare she never showed up. We had been internet friends for over two years so I trusted her but was a mistake. Never seen liars like this in any country that I traveled.
Sorry to hear that Manny! Seem’s like I been meeting one Liar after another there in the Philippines. I have never in my life met as many gamers and liars, like I have met in the Philippines..
If you meet a 30 year old woman named Rena Joy Alba Codoy, of Cebu City, be very careful. She is a ‘professional’. She’ll convince you she is not a prostitute with her sweet words and acting but will indeed cheat behind your back with as many guys as possible and she’ll get money and gifts for it too. She got a full set of braces and now she’s gotten a nose job. She’s made a life like this, apparently for years, without working. You can find her in DateInAsia and other of these sites in the Philippines She may get you hooked with her sexual pictures. She’ll tell you she loves you and wants you forever but don’t believe her. She has a 5year old son she hasn’t seen for over a year. She lied to me saying she was spending time with her son when in fact she was with other men cheating on me. She lied to me the entire time I was with her (nearly 1 year) and can’t be honest. The biggest hypocrite I’ve ever meet because everything she told me not to do SHE was doing! The ironic thing is that after I met her and searched her name Rena Joy Alba, there was a scam complaint against her and I was trying to help to have it removed. Now I see the truth after all this time. I should have listed to to the other guys complaint and not gotten fooled. I asked her so many times if she want to be with other guys or an open relationship but lied to me and says want’s only me. The hidden prostitute types are the worst! Just be open and real about it!
She’s legally married but says she can get an annulment for P100,000 and be with you forever.
This is she: http://postimg.org/image/a90ti9zzv/
This what she wrote to one of her ‘guys’ asking for money: http://postimg.org/image/sjmybi4zz/ and http://postimg.org/image/frnk2qe0t/
This is one guy she was recently engaged to: http://postimg.org/image/x128j27l3/
Her newest victim: http://postimg.org/image/kkh9hw5o7/
Nose job: http://postimg.org/image/45u6e0ln3/
i recently met a Filipino online. She went balls out saying how honest and respectful she was. The second time we chatted and i asked her to stand for me just to see her figure, she whipped off her top and showed me her tits saying she had her period so that’s all she could show. It soon got to her wanting to see my cock and then the cam sex started followed by the sob stories. It took few more chats before she started with the real b’shit hardships she had and the need sic for help from the heart. I resisted of course but she persevered. I told her I understood what she did cos she needed mney and I didnt object at the same time as grilling her for the truth and she finally relented giving me access to her SKYPE AND YAHOO accounts so I could read her mail. So fucking stupid cos I saw all the guys on there she was giving cam sex to for fun. She actually thought I would think more of her. After more grilling she told me her twin sister’s husband regularly fingered her and she gave him hand and blo jobs. Sis didn’t know of course.
And all the time she was telling me I was he only one she loved and she wanted me to come there and marry her.
I might add I have been fleeced for hundreds of dolldesars in the early days when I was a shmuck but now I can spot a whore a mile off. Easy lesson. If they call u dear or honey after the first few chats, they are after you readies so beware.
I’m a Filipina who’s always been socially inept. I don’t go out to bars or coffee shops because I’m awkward and not really that attractive. So I’m trying my luck on online dating.
Funny thing is, I’ve never asked for money, never showed my tits, never called a guy I barely know my boyfriend, and I’ve never slept with a foreigner. I don’t ask nor accept dirty offers because my quest for love is genuine.
However, all throughout my online experience, I only met foreigners who are out for nothing but sex, sex sex. They get mad when I don’t show my body, call me stuck up when I refuse to have sex with them, and an opinionated bitch when I speak my opinions.
If you’re the type of foreigner who’s in it to play, then you DESERVE TO BE SCAMMED. Be a gentleman if you want a lady.
And if you generalize, then you deserve it even better. Stop asking for photos of their tits and if you want respectable women, then don’t date women who is too easy.
Leave our country and go to Thailand. We don’t need jerks here.
im am a filipina too..pls not all filipina are like some kinda “gold digger or scammers…yes indeed there are some filipina who do such bad things as that but not all of them..
if they ask you for something like money then dont give any single of it..
f they really love you then u dont need to give anything just to love you…
Dude, ALL women are after ALL men’s money. it’s what they do. If women did not get a benefit from marriage, they would not marry us. Get over it, except the fact that you gonna give up ALL your money no matter who you marry, White, Black, Asian, Martian, it doesn’t matter
What’s the point in proliferating this kinda scam videos? To deter potential Pinay scammers?
Albeit widespread propaganda against scamming, why do I hear increasing number of Americans joining the bandwagon of expats leaving their country for good and living in the Philippines? Simply because expat find that he’s better off living in the Philippines than living in his home country. Spending in peso, his $ can go a long, long way.
Come to think of it, analyzing the scenario, Americans leaving US for good and living in the Philippines are really economic refugees … can’t survive the very expensive US lifestyle.
And speaking of women, …..
“Love is nothing else but an insatiate thirst of enjoying a greedily desired object.” (Montaigne)
Once satiated, says to himself, “Ok, I’ve had enough of her. Time to find another”. In the Philippines, women outnumbered men. And lots, lots cheaper than in, say, USA.
As one said, “Buying a Pinay in the Philippines is as easy as buying a burger in US.
To compound the problem, puti are preferred to OFWs by the Pinays.
We, the overseas (o/s) Pinoys, packed up our few worldly possessions and traveled across oceans in search of a new life; toiled in sweatshops and settled the West; endured the lash of the whip and plowed the hard earth. Time and again, o/s Pinoys struggled and sacrificed and worked till their hands were raw so that people back home might live a better life.
This is the journey we, o/s Pinoys, continue today.
But, after long hard years of struggle and sacrifice, when he goes home to retire, he is treated as 2nd class to the puti. Subjected to abuses like being called dom with lecherous inclination.
That’s great, isn’t it?
@@ Juan;
You are misinformed, or clearly have no knowledge of what you are talking about. While reading your novel I began to think you wrote that just to impress yourself. It is easy to discern that you never been to the US because you speak without facts. The truth of the matter is it’s very expensive to live there in the Philippines far more costly for foreigners to live there then it is to live here in the USA.
You speak of your own people having to go aboard to survive and find suitable employment, what does that have to do with foreigners? wrong comparison!
The fact of the matter is your Govt make it very hard and burdensome for foreigners not only to live there, but also to visit there as well.
We foreigners have to pay visa fees, custom fees, application fees, ACR Card fees and the list goes on. These fees are not a one time fee but they are basically monthly renewal fees.
Trying to find an apt or condo to rent or lease there is no joke. for example: when Filipino citizens see foreigner he/she jacks up the price, even the vendor on the street selling food has done this to me and I refused to buy from him because of it. tricycle drivers charge outrages cost if foreigner needs ride. Please don’t categorize all foreigners as being rich and living the life of luxury. The same I as refuse to categorize all Fiipinas as scammers and liars.
Personally I enjoy the tropical weather, the lovely beaches,and of course the beautiful people there. However, I have to save many months before going there and it doesn’t take long before that savings is depleted once I’m there. Sure the women are lovely and I’m sure most foreigners will agree but when it all boils down women are women and people are people. I’ve met just as many liars and cheats there, as I have in the US, if not more. I’ve never seen so many women that lie like I have in the Philippines but I guessing it because of their needs.
regardless of that, I want you to know the facts before spewing out your uninformed information. Please feel free to reply and correct me if you feel I’m wrong. However as an American and well traveled I’m 100% certain of the things I wrote about here.
Pls dont talk in general guys! Like n all countries, there’s a bad and good people. Sorry for all the victims but pls not all women are the same. Thank you.
No one is blaming every Filipina alive.. I’m only Speaking FACT’s!
Whether you like it or not, that’s your option. You have no idea how many Filipina Liars and Gamer’s I have personally come in contact with and yet I know there are good ones too.. So please allow us to share our experiences and try not to take it so personally!
@mary Couldn’t agree more.
But the irony is that, albeit videos on Filipino scam being proliferated, more and more foreigners, especially Americans, are leaving their country for good and join the bandwagon of expats going to the Philippines to live there.
Strange but true.
@juan:
Thank you for the laugh today, as I had to chuckle after reading your comment directed to me.
To answer your question: I am a World Traveler. I travel all over the world, not just the Philippines. in fact was I lived there (Philippines) for 4 months and recently returned home (USA) in June, 2015. while it is true that I enjoyed my stay there, I want to explore, see, and experience other countries as well.
I hope that’s OK with you.
I will say this, and that is, someone needs to get a handle on all the kidnappings taking place there. as far as I can see, that would be the number one reason reason why anyone would be hesitant to visit the Philippines.
Any suggestions on how the Philippine Govt can stop this, being that you are so knowledgeable about expats and the countries they come from.
No offense just thinking you could be of great assistance where its really needed..
WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN THAT THEY’RE NOT LIVING IN PARADISE!đź•
I’m a Cebuano who migrated to Australia in ’80. Plan to retire in the Philippines and marry a Pinay, 16 – 25, whose brain is a gold mine. Many have similar plans.
Goes without saying in the Philippines that OLD CARABAOS EAT YOUNG GRASS!
I’m 65.
My postings are in multitude of sites. Eg., The basics of the Filipina Chat Scam
@reggie
So you don’t wanna go back to the Philippines anymore??? Not ever???
That’s too bad!
@reggie
Believe you, Yankees, are to blame.
After WWII, USA was the richest country in the world. Having fought side by side with the Pinoys, treated them as little brothers. Providing charity without accountability. Later, adventurous Pinoys, pursuing their American dream, did the same — sending home periodic remittances but too timid&scared­ to make them accountable.
Consequently, this has created a culture in which Pinoys back home exhibit too much dependence on us, OFWs, and big brother, American … hence, the word scamming.
They don’t call it scamming. They call it practicing Christian charity. As the saying goes, “When in Rome, live like the Romans”. So, where is your Christian charity spirit? “To give and not to count the cost” (St Ignatius de Loyola)
And speaking of scamming, as mathematicians say, “The number of possibilities is infinite”. Kidnapping is one.
Before leaving the Philippines in ’80, Singapore was no different from the Philippines — a 3rd world nation. Now, Singapore’s an economic superpower. But the Philippines is still a gutter.
Heard its economic growth is accelerating. But still, 70% of the population is living below the poverty line.
Wanna change that world? Help yourself.
@ juan
Nicely Stated! Although I know little about Singapore, and practically nothing about that church you mentioned. Nevertheless, I can see you speak passionately about the issues being discussed and I admire that. I sincerely thank you for your approach and the enlightenment. I’ve personally met a number of filipino’s and they too are OFW’s . I like them and enjoy spending quality time with them. I try to schedule my trip to the Philippines when I know they will be on vacation.
in case you are wondering they are guys as in (male) not female. Yes we foreigners like the Philippines for the people both male and female. lol Hopefully one day you and I can sit down and have a few beers together and discuss whatever, as I can see you a good man and that my friend is why I enjoy going to the Philippines. because of the quality people.
As for the filipinas, I enjoy them too. just looking for that Special one, that one a guy don’t mind writing home about… anyway I sincerely thank you for your reply and I appreciate your respectful delivery as well.. Take Care and
Keep in touch!
@reggie You might be interested, …..
Average tuition fees in Cebu college levels depends on the school, courses and subject units they take. More or less it starts from Php18,000.00 ($400) on competitive average schools to Php50,000.00 ($1,111) on top universities for one semester. Payment for tuition and other school fees may be done in full at the time of enrolment or by monthly installment.
Daily expenses for a student run approximately $4 per day, this includes jeepney or bus fares, internet cafe and lunch. Students who lives far in the province usually rents a bed space or boarding house near the school. This cost about 1,000 pesos to 3,000 pesos per month, including light and water. Every year, colleges and universities increase their tuition fees without prior notice so parents really need to have prepared funds.
Higher education institutions in the Philippines are either colleges or universities, and classified as public or private. Colleges are tertiary institutions that typically offer one or a few specialized courses, for example, in the sciences or in liberal arts, or in specific professional courses, such as Nursing, Computing, or Maritime Studies.
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Offering money/scholarships to a lovely Pinay, 16 – 25, to become an engineer in exchange for becoming my wife.
So can earn me truckloads of cash to bring into my next life.
If you’re thinking what I’m thinking … and she walks out on you after grad … I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE!!!!!
I would like to know more information about Filipino scammer there . My H is one of the victim but he in love think she love him to support his dream. She only 25 doesn’t work and has 3 years old daughter. My H 52 lost his job ,now he stay there with her . He think is so cheap to live in Manila. Can the girl only met you online tell you she love you and support your dream? That is TRUE love ?
@ reggie
The longer you stay in the Philippines, the more “fun”!
“Adventure is a path. Real adventure – self-determined, self-motivated, often risky – forces you to have firsthand encounters with the world. The world the way it is, not the way you imagine it. Your body will collide with the earth and you will bear witness. In this way you will be compelled to grapple with the limitless kindness and bottomless cruelty of humankind – and perhaps realize that you yourself are capable of both. THIS WILL CHANGE YOU. Nothing will ever again be black-and-white.” – Mark Jenkins
This situation is not at all new, everywhere women cheats and scams, come on! but ok since this is a pinay topic, am game on it! i have also known 2 pinay one who is already married with 1 kid and the other has 3 with several partners like a UN deploy, and they both have foreigners supported them, this makes me mad why??! the HONEST ones got dragged by these fuckin’ gold digger who likes to flatten their fuckin’ back to their pinoy lovers, husbands or anything for that matter for lust sake’s and strip down online for fuckin’ dollars to support their fuckin’ lifestyle and when the idiot foreigners find out, they will generalize WOMEN for being cheaters! what the hell, i hope white men will be more smarter too! not just swayed by young girls stripping for their own lustful fulfillment!!!
You get what you get when you go for it!
I went to work in Manila March 1997 after a couple of months I met a Filipina she was 20 I was 44 after going out together for 4 months I asked her if she would move in with me if I got a nice condo so we did, 3 months later it was her 21st birthday we had a party loads of my friends came and only a couple of hers.
One day we got talking about families and she said the she hadn’t had contact with hers for over 4 years (her family lived in Mindanao) I was horrified as I thought they must be worried to death about her having a couple of daughters around her age I know that’s how I would have felt, so I told her to give them a call she said they had no phone but she would write so a couple of months passed and no reply so I told her to try again this time she did and mentioned that she was living with a foreigner, big surprise she got an answer this time, so Christmas was coming up so I said to her lets fly to Mindanao and stay there for Christmas & new year, we flew to Cagayan took a taxi to illigan City found a good hotel after we checked in we went to see her family in a village 13 kilometers away,only her father and one brother was there her mother 4 sisters and 2 brothers we far away in Zamboanga del Sur and her older sister had gone to Manila 2-3 years before that, she told me we can’t go to Zamboanga as it’s too dangerous for me to go there so I gave her old man money to go there and bring them up to see their sister, 2 days later they came all except her oldest brother, her youngest 2 sisters didn’t even have any shoes or even flip flops on their feet, anyway we would spend time with them during the next 9-10 days during which time I suggested to take her family out in groups her father then said no we will go out in one big group and we will take her cousins and other relations with us and I said no I am paying for it so we do it my way, the real reason for this was if we went in smaller groups it would give her more time to talk to her brothers and sisters and get better quality time also there was vast differences in the age groups and I wanted to let each group enjoy what they wanted to do, it was getting really boring so I said to her lets go away tomorrow back to Cagayan and find a nice hotel on a beach and have some fun for the last 4 days which we did.
After that we went back to Manila and got on with our lives she would get the odd phone call from her family saying her mother was sick (I should have mentioned before none of her family worked) anyway I was offered another job im March 1998 with the Americans in Pangasinan so I took it and off we went things were great just her and I together couldn’t have asked for anyone better probably the happiest time of my life we decided to get married we had a civil service in November 1998 and then we went back to Illigan City in early December and got married in a church so she could wear her big wedding dress had a big reception in our favorite hotel, then back to work for Christmas & New Year, everything going great, I gave her some money and she went back to Mindanao in July-August for 2 weeks to buy us a house (First big Mistake)
By the end of October 1999 the job was complete so I was offered a job in Egypt and took it working 47 days on and 21 days off good money and return flights every few weeks got a builder in told him how I wanted the house changed put her in a hotel for 12 weeks paid in advance put her living allowance in her bank account for when I was away, came back on leave threw a fit with the builder kicked them off the job got a solicitor and went after them,
was speaking to my bank manager who was very honest and helpful he suggested to rent a house while we were sorting out the builder helped me to find a good one at very reasonable rent, tried to find good furniture which was very difficult but found a very good furniture maker and paid him a 50% deposit up front and left her with the balance to pay upon completion anyway went back to work came back 7 weeks later some furniture in the house but not all I asked her why he had not finished it all as he said 4 to 5 weeks all would be complete then was told he needed the balance I said what do you mean her mother and father had been taking Utang (Credit) in local shops in the village and were going to be locked up for not paying it so she used some of the balance of the furniture money.
To be continued (it’s along story)
MBB
My H met his OW on filipino chat online . She from illagan island too. My H believe that she love him and he in love with her because she willing dedicate her life to him . He think that she support his dream to be a writer on fitness and health. She only 25 years old has three years old daughter and never work. He believe she is a very honest person and believe in God. She knew him marry that time before he visit her in phillipines. She texted me wished both of us good luck get my H. He send her money before he visit her. Everyone can see that she only using him as a provider for her family ( money and green card) . She had her old post on Facebook regard her German 2012 the same time she was pregnant with her Filipino boyfriend. Her posted that she looking for someone provided better life for her family. she lost her chance to get fiance visa to German because she was pregnant that time. My H lost his job after the affair and took his retirement money to live with her in Manila now. He left me and three kids behind. I would to talk to u more about your stories.
My ex fell for a Filipino Scam. He met her through a girl at work. He wrote me off after sneaking around in chat rooms without my knowledge. I am an Western and so is he. He like some older guys must have had a fantasy of the sexy much younger Asian woman being at his beck and call and endless sex. I wish I would have been a fly on the wall to see how easily he was a push over for her and her so called friend he worked with. He was so easily set up for the take. The Filipino girl that was working with him he would confine in and talk to and probably told way to much about himself. With that knowledge she relayed the information to her partner in crime and the plot was set. She appeared to have identical interests as him. Even liked the same sports (doubt she even knew those sports) Even said she liked the same teams (I’m sure were never aired in her country).
I have no idea how much money she got out of him, but I know she ended up getting a good chunk of change. He even paid for her air fair to a remote place where he was temporarily living for his job, only a day after he met her on line. I assume the air fare was not less the 3,000 dollars one way if not more.
She only stuck around for 2 days where he was. Stupid him left her with Internet access at his apt and all his passwords were saved to his bank accounts and even his company access needless to say I started getting scammer’s emailing me as she acquired all his addresses. Probably figured out we were in along time relationship and thought I was as stupid as him to fall for some Male Filipino guy. Needless to say shortly after she left his company or I should say the company he worked for was scammed out of several thousand dollars. He ended up losing his job due to that as they put 2 and 2 together and figured out it was her as she found out enough about him to successfully scam the business he worked for.
He tried to come back to me and tell me he loved me and only me and I told him to take a hike. I laughed when I heard he’d met her at the Airport and she looked much different then her photo’s she sent him and as well her FB pictures. She claimed she was 37 yrs old (he’s 54 yrs old). She looked in those pictures like an 18 yr old. He said when he purchased her ticket it was confirmed her age and she wasn’t 18, but looked young for her age. When he actually saw her she looked very average and Asian.. Since he paid for her flight in and already offered her to stay at his place he was stuck with her for a couple days. He foolishly went to work while leaving the woman at his place and she robbed him blind. She left in a hurry claiming there was an emergency back home in her country. He stupidly paid for her flight out.
I still remember the picture he sent to me of her before her arrival. Nothing like throwing salt on the wound what an A.. Hole She was very young looking like a teenager. Had a top on cut down to her naval with part of her nipples showing. I just loved the big cross necklace she had on too. Really went with the attire. I said wake up dude you are being scammed. I said I sure the hell don’t want you back, but it’s time to start thinking with the right end of your body.
Once she left, the following day he found she’d hacked his bank account, got him fired from his job and stole any jewelry or cash she found in his place.
He couldn’t find her under her chat name in the chat room. She unfriended him on FB and when he tried to get her reported, her FB account and everything vanished. Also, found out the name he had the plane ticket made out for was a fake name as she had a fake passport and all.
God only knows how much money he lost. Do I feel sorry for him. NO. He’s a piece of crap in my eyes and deserved what he got. He had a good woman me. Faithful, honest and caring and far from unattractive. Seriously no young woman has a true loving interest in a middle age or elderly man. I know I wouldn’t want to be with a 60 or 70 yr old at my age. If I was a gold digger yes. I would prefer a man in my age category as I have nothing in common with an many 20-30 yrs older then I am.
If the young woman isn’t after your money she’s after freedom to live in your country. There are good and bad in every country in women and men. Just because something turned ugly with a girl from your own region doesn’t mean you should hold it against all the women there. How can a man not feel like a pervert if he’s having sex with a woman that could be his own daughter or even grand daughter. Common interests with that much of an age gap are far and few between. It’s better to stay within your own generation regardless of what nationality the woman is. Cultural differences are also a challenge as you literally come from 2 different worlds if they are from a completely different culture.
Those type women and men that scam Western people have no heart. They are cold calculating and are crafty with their scams. They are more trashy then a prostitute.
I wish there would be more out there on these scams so men and women wouldn’t fall into their web. I wish it would get Media attention and be on the news, talk shows and the victims of the scams would be interviewed to give others a wake up call.
A life partner is someone you can enjoy the same pleasures. The same music, movies, conversation. Grow old together. Not die 20 yrs before them.
I was scammed by Janice Santos…at least that is who I sent my money to. She has gone by many names on Facebook. In addition to her own, she has used Jha Santos, Jhanize Santos, Ezinahj Santos, and Janice San Juan Santos. Last I knew she was using JS Bentekwatro. She claims to be from somewhere in Bulacan. She has got thousands off of me over the last four years with her hard luck stories, I finally got proof she has been in a relationship a long time. Her M.O. is to always ask you for money so you never have a chance to visit.
Been posting my saga in The Guardian’s “Ask Kim Duthie if she’s surprised that women are still blamed for their abuse”. Interesting to see those censored. Yep, that article is really a feminist propaganda. Hehehe
Anyway, my saga can be found in many other forums, eg., “Filipinas (Pinays) marrying and migrating overseas.”
Speaking of having a kid, what have in mind. Difference between ex- and me is that I can still have offspring. Our children are adults now … youngest born in ’88. Hence, out of the equation.
If I marry a 16-yr-old lovely Pinay and have baby, court might rule in my favour as the big sign in the system says: PARAMOUNT CONSIDERATION IS ON BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILD.
But, what if, after all’s been said and done, my new wife will divorce me? Hahaha
the moral is, should you marry a Pinay, don’t live in Australia. Hehehe
More feminist propaganda in The Guardian’s “ROSIE BATTY: By teaching children, we can change the culture of violence against women”.
BEWARE OF POSTING IN THE GUARDIAN!!!!!
NEWSFLASH!!!!!
Yet another FEMINIST article published today …
TheGuardian > “Stepping out from the shadows: how domestic violence caught the nation’s attention in 2015”.
As usual, my posted saga was censored. Hehehe
“What a fine persecution—to be kept intrigued without ever quite being enlightened.”
― Tom Stoppard
Been browsing The Guardian’s “Rosie Batty: By teaching children, we can change the culture of violence against women”.
As a child, must have been living with pity … learned to feel sorry for herself. Acquired skills in drawing people to empathize with her … won sympathy from feminists … and secured generous govt funding.
Marvellous!
No different from a Filipina scammer … those heartbreaking stories .
Once again, why pick on the Pinay?????
Analyzing the scenario …
Alleged been living a violent life with him for 10 yrs! Why didn’t split with him ages ago? Wasn’t only yesterday that strong feminism was born in Australia.
Action = reaction. She must have had provoked him.
Oh, yeah, she garnered the Australian-of-the-year award.
“Domestic violence campaigner Rosie Batty named Australian of the Year”
Followed by poll count showing domestic violence a greater threat than terrorism.
“Domestic violence a bigger threat than terrorism, poll shows”
And ousted PM Abbott’s awesome speech.
“PM Abbott says men must speak to men about domestic violence”
And the advertently ignored male responses
“Why we don’t hear about male victims of domestic violence”
Just shows the kinda public servants Australia has — idiots, morons, imbeciles and the like.
Don’t you love farce?
P.S. Want to post this in The Guardian. But know will only be censored. Hehehe
Too much feminism has a negative effect on the child, though. As what’s happening here in Australia, domestic violence a greater threat than terrorism.
Divorced/separated parents … estranged dad … abusive mum … raped by step dad … mum wouldn’t dare break the silence … for fear her lover will walk out on her.
Lost kid.
Husband/wife bashing isn’t born; it’s taught.
And homegrown terrorists, too. If I were to cultivate one, I’d pick a lost kid like this.
Re: The Guardian’s “Rosie Batty: By teaching children, we can change the culture of violence against women” …
Wonder where Ms. Rosie Batty was when her son was murdered. Why wasn’t she around to protect him?
“What a fine persecution—to be kept intrigued without ever quite being enlightened.”
― Tom Stoppard
My wife, now ex-wife isn’t poor … belongs to the Navera clan … the richest in Siquijor.
When they learned that I was among the hi-income earners in Australia, many IT Filipinos were, suddenly everyone had countless “brilliant” business proposals on how to invest my money to maximize return.
Flatly refused. Told her, “If they’re really confident with their proposed ventures, why don’t they borrow from the bank? Later, when they need more money to expand their thriving business, I’ll be only too eager to lend”.
As mathematicians say, “The number of possibilities [to scam] is infinite”.
@ reggie,
@ Dragon, et al.
When you’ve nothing else to bore you …
“Abuse exists because of secrecy. If I can use this platform and talk about it and break the silence, somebody can get the help and support they need. It’s such a common problem, and it doesn’t need to be. All you have to do is talk about it and break the silence.”
(Chris Witty)
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Taking out the dirty linens hidden in the cupboard and showing them to the public so those lazy public servants will wash them, so to speak.
Started posting in AUSTRALIAN DADS FORUM. Been existing for 10 odd years. Weeks before Ms Rosie Batty was proclaimed Australian of the Year, AUSTRALIAN DADS FORUM was shut down.
WHY WASN’T I SURPRISED?
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Reached end-stage renal failure and started dialyzing beginning Nov ’97.
04 Jan ’98. Wife, now ex-, created a little farce. Police came, charged me with assault and, instantly, imposed AVO against me. Thrown out of the matrimonial home.
Later, found NOT GUILTY, but the AVO remained enforced.
Last AVO proceedings ex-wife instituted against me was dismissed in court. Made no difference as, every time visited the matrimonial home, police ordered me to leave.
On one occasion, police said, “You no longer live here”.
On another, “She doesn’t want you here”.
On yet another, a junior officer suggested to his senior to charge me for breach of peace. His senior declined.
Guess police were concerned about DV should there be another man (or men) living inside the house. They didn’t even enter the house. We were only talking outside. Guess they didn’t want to become witnesses of intruders.
BRILLIANT POLICE STRATEGY, DON’T YOU AGREE?
To date, still fighting for my rightful share of the $800K+ matrimonial home and the MESNE PROFIT from 04 Jan ’98.
Ex-wife’s modus operandi are, get a lawyer to write a BY-NO-MEANS-CERTAIN offer, then, terminates her lawyer and deals directly with my lawyer.
AND PLAYS UP!
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A fortnight after I was found NOT GUILTY, ex-wife instituted another AVO proceedings against me … this time on behalf of one child. According to her, I hit the child so hard with my belt, left a scar in his arm. Child was examined by a doctor … said scar caused by a stick.
The police forgot to ask my ex-wife, “Is your husband a magician? Did his belt turn into a stick the moment it hit the child”? Had I not written to the media, she would have had instituted other AVO proceedings for the other 2 children. Yeah, she would have had AVO galore against me.
Not long after, it was headlined in a newspaper, “POLICE RESPONDED 77,500 DV INCIDENTS” … tougher AVO laws must be introduced.
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On men’s group …
Before starting my application for contact with the children, rang up various outreach organizations. Same advice … go to court as a self-represented litigant.
After a few court sessions, judge insisted that I hire a PRIVATE lawyer as an ordinary father like me is no match against my ex-wife’s FREE legal aid lawyer who was experienced in the law.
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My ex-wife kicked off my application for contact with the children by blurting out the stupid, insidious and unfounded allegation, “Your honour! I strongly object for the children to have contact with their father because he beat them until they were black and blue! He also LITERALLY threw the children out of the house!”
Because my ex-wife’s allegations were so horrendous and overwhelming, at the end of the day, the judge had no choice but to dismiss my application for contact with the children.
I HAVE NO CHILD-ABUSE CONVICTION!
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Had zero contact with my children. Even birthday cards sent to them were returned. The words â€RETURN TO SENDER’ were in my ex-wife’s handwriting.
When I mentioned this to the counsellor at the Family Court Counselling Section, she said, “Not my job! Talk to your solicitor”.
When I mentioned this to my PRIVATE lawyer, she replied, “Why didn’t you re-send them”?
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During my first FAILED attempt at having contact with the children, had to pay a PRIVATE clinical psychologist to write a report ensuring that the children were safe when having contact with me.
The clinical psychologist said that it is absolutely essential for the children’s health to maintain regular contact with their father.
Before the judge signed the out-of-court settlement dictated by my ex-wife, he mumbled at my ex-wife, “It is important for the children’s health to maintain regular contact with their father. Otherwise, when they grow up, they’ll have difficulty with their social relationships”.
Guess protecting the mother’s privacy is more important than the children’s health.
Made numerous attempts at having contact with my children using different PRIVATE m&f lawyers. Got me nowhere. Lost a fortune instead. Became an enticingly lucrative prey for shysters.
Ex-wife was simply enjoying free legal aid services.
I HAVE NO CHILD-ABUSE CONVICTION!
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Made one last desperate attempt to have contact with my children … went to court as a self-represented litigant. As happened before, judge insisted that I hire a PRIVATE lawyer as an ordinary father like me is no match against my ex-wife’s legal aid lawyer who was experienced in the law.
Replied, “I give up, your honour! Easy for my ex-wife as she’s merely enjoying free legal aid. But I have no more money”. In a crowded courtroom, the judge was more cautious … ordered that a child’s legal representative [clr, now called independent child’s lawyer (icl)] be appointed.
The clr wrote me asking $1500 as initial payment for his service. Told him to get the money from whoever hired him – Legal Aid Commission (?). Upset, he acted as my ex-wife’s de facto lawyer … kept attacking me … everything based on ex-wife’s allegations.
The judge ordered that a yet another child protection expert write a yet another family report. Yes, myriad of family reports from myriad of child protection experts. According to this child protection expert, my ex-wife had nothing to do with the children’s behaviour and action. EVERYTHING CAME FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE CHILDREN’S HEARTS.
At the end of the day, in a courtroom that was practically empty (NO SPECTATOR!), the judge dismissed my application for contact with the children.
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Courtrooms are almost always jam-packed … inundated with cases. Judges are complaining about suffering from work-related stresses. Yet, in every attempt I made at having contact with the children, at the end of the day, before the judge issued the final order, i.e., signed the OUT-OF-COURT settlement dictated by my ex-wife, the courtroom was practically empty (NO SPECTATOR!). Guess the judge was too timid&scared­ to let the public know what the final order was.
Had similar experience with every AVO proceeding ex- instituted against me.
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On AVO proceedings …
Male AVO defendant is not entitled to free legal aid. Hearing started with the judge asking, “Do you consent to the AVO without admission of guilt”? If consent, judge signed the order … end of proceedings.
Otherwise, hearing is adjourned to another day. Another judge asked the same question. If same response, again adjourned to another day … etc., etc. If, after numerous trips to court, defendant still refused to consent … on the final day … in a practically empty courtroom [NO SPECTATOR!], judge dismissed the court proceedings.
Made no difference as, every time visited the matrimonial home, police ordered me to piss off.
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Fortnight after my first FAILED attempt at having contact with the children, got a phone call from XXX Family Relationship Center. Said that ex-wife wanted property settlement matter done via mediation. I pay $90/hr and my ex-wife pay nothing. I refused.
Fortnight later, XXX rang again. Said that ex-wife will include contact with the children in the mediation. Wanted to reply, “But I thought she has extreme fear for the children’s lives from me”?
Anyway, replied that I want it in writing.
I did receive something posted from XXX. But it wasn’t what I wanted. Instead, it contained brochures on the myriad of services XXX offered.
FANTASTIC!!!!!
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More on mediation scam …
In another FAILED attempt I made at having contact with my children, the counsellor at the Family Court Counselling Section (FCCS) insisted that I attend mediation with a family relationship centre (frc), e.g., YYY Family Relationship Centre.
Later, I learned that, at one time, FCCS underwent retrenchment. Some retrenched “found” jobs with YYY. What a wonderful sense of camaraderie between FCCS and ex-comrades in YYY!
I had to pay “donation” per session while my ex-wife paid nothing.
The mediation was BS! The mediator kept attacking me … everything based on my ex- allegations. I HAVE NO CHILD-ABUSE CONVICTION.
Then, in one session, don’t know whose idea it was, property settlement was included. At the end of that session, I was charged $370 while my ex-wife was charged nothing.
Following day, wrote to YYY, “Unless my ex-wife will share the mediation expenses 50-50, I don’t want property settlement to be included in the mediation”. Upset, YYY recommended supervised contact (sc) only.
My ex-wife insisted sc only with the youngest child for 2 hours a month … was done at Central West Contact Service (CWCS) in Granville (western suburb). Don’t know who chose Granville as I lived in the eastern suburb. As usual, I pay for the service … but my wife … FREE. Anyway, contact was only for a few sessions. After that, the child didn’t appear anymore.
Years later, the then Federal Attorney General Philip Ruddock launched the massive family law reform program … establishing myriad of frc all over Australia. What a brilliant strategy for hiding political infection [government corruption]! Transfer â€excess baggage’ from FCCS to frc to avoid public scrutiny on the FCCS.
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One family report was from a child protection expert in the Department of Community Services (DOCS).
Recommended zero contact with the children.
According to this report, she had worked on our case for over two years. After reading her report, I won’t be surprised if DOCS has a library of child-abuse reports from my ex-wife against me. My ex-wife had been a frequent visitor of DOCS for ages without my knowledge. DOCS was only too eager to entertain my ex-wife so can have something to fill up their time sheets.
I HAVE NO CHILD-ABUSE CONVICTION!
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Children wrote me hate letters.
According to my ex-wife, she had absolutely nothing to do with those letters. In fact, she even did her best to convince the children on the importance of maintaining regular contact with their father.
But the children hate me so much …
But how come she had copies of those letters presented in court? Guess the children poked a gun at her head and said, “Mum! You’d better make copies of these letters and present them in court. Otherwise, we’ll blow your brains out”!
Kids, able to know how to plan such things? Guess they were taught in school.
Makes sense, doesn’t it?
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Ex-wife applied for passport on behalf of the children … required my signature. I refused.
Ex-wife took the matter to court via free legal aid. Before the judge signed the court order, told me, “Had you signed, the children would now be only too eager to have regular contact with you”.
Almost shouted, “BS! YOUR HONOUR”.
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Children are adults now … youngest is 27. No longer living in the matrimonial home.
Last time heard, the older 2 were renting a small place in Chippendale, Sydney. Wonder why they moved out of the matrimonial home when, relative to the matrimonial home, the Chippendale place is garbage.
Ex-wife is living alone(?). Wonder how she’s managing the quite high strata levy, et al.
Matrimonial home is an $800K+ luxury townhouse within a complex having awesome facilities like swimming pool, spa, sauna, gym, tennis courts, barbecue area, etc.
YEP. HAS A QUITE HIGH STRATA LEVY. BUT …
Townhouse has unusually high ceilings, 3 spacious bedrooms, built-in mirrored wardrobes, ensuite, 3 toilets and large courtyard. The smallest bedroom can easily fit in 2 double-decker beds on opposite walls and still leave a generous aisle. Jumbo size double locked-up garage. 1.8km to Kirrawee train station.
WITH THE INFLUX OF RICH OVERSEAS ASIAN STUDENTS, CERTAINLY EXCELLENT FOR ACCEPTING BOARDERS.
OR, … BRINGING IN ILLEGALS FROM THE PHILIPPINES AND LIVE IN THERE.
No wonder, my ex-wife got rid of our 3 children.
MARVELLOUS, isn’t it?
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In summary, my dispute vs my ex-wife involves 3 outstanding issues:
1) my half share of the $800K+ matrimonial home;
2) MESNE PROFIT from 04 Jan ’98 — the day she threw me out of the matrimonial home;
3) robbing the children of their relationship with their father … blighting their lives forever!
I have no child-abuse conviction!
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Been through numerous lawyers …
The fairest approach is to sell the property at auction. If ex-wife’s interested in keeping the place, she can participate as one of the bidders.
But she can’t as she certainly doesn’t have $400K+ to buy my half share … not to mention the MESNE PROFIT from 04 Jan ’98.
So, she plays up.
For as long as the house remains unsold, she continues to have it for her own private use.
SHE HAS EVERYTHING TO GAIN AND NOTHING TO LOSE.
Have to take matter to court. But, with the court so bias against the man, I’m almost certain that I’ll have enough to pay my lawyer. But l’d be lucky to get bread crumb leftovers for myself.
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Months before my 65th birthday last May 2015, Centrelink was hounding me with letters … “grilling” me on every asset I have. But when I mentioned my greatest asset, my rightful share of the $800K+ matrimonial home + the MESNE PROFIT from 04 Jan ’98, Centrelink was too timid&scared­ to discuss with me. Guess it’s not their job.
Emailed numerous politicians. Finally got a letter from the Federal Attorney General’s office. Advised me to contact XXX Legal Aid Center – free service.
Same center went to during my application for contact with the children last century. Manned by fresh law grads and law students. After half-hour interview said, “You have a strong chance of winning”. Then gave me a list of PRIVATE lawyers strongly recommended as the best in Sydney. Later learned that those lawyers were the ones funding the center. DON’T YOU LOVE FARCE?????
EVERY PUBLIC SERVANT TELLS ME THAT IT IS NOT HIS/HER JOB!!!!!
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Currently living in Haymarket Centre, 139 Regent St., Chippendale, Sydney — a refuge shelter for the homeless. Yes, me, a homeless refugee from my ex-wife.
Applied for public housing but application was rejected because I’m part owner of the $800K+ matrimonial home and ought to live there.
But can’t live there as ex-wife badly needs it for her own private use.
Children are adults and no longer living in the matrimonial home.
I’m 66, retired and a renal transplant outpatient. My ex-wife is 3 yrs younger.
F#‪#‎K!
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Here in Haymarket Centre, at one time, a legal aid team came to interview me … young lawyers and a law student. After half-hour, told me they’ve members who are experts in this matter.
Replied to them, “Ahhhh! You’ll get back to me with a list of PRIVATE lawyers strongly recommended as the best in Sydney”.
To date, still waiting for them to get back to me.
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Want to go to the Philippines and retire there. But can’t because still tied up with this property dispute against my ex-wife.
well for me i know why some white people or american get scammed cause some of them…. are choosy too picky. and insted of finding the right woman for them they try to find a woman or girls too much younger their age..and easy to believe when some of the girls talking nice online. not all chatting nice online are really nice in person.
@ lisa
Age gap doesn’t make any difference.
MY EX-WIFE IS ONLY 3 YRS YOUNGER THAN ME.
i had a man that i love from USA also he is not rich but i do really love him.. i was 23 when i start dating with him and to be hes Girlfriend too..he also lied to me…and i did think so. if why he keep talking still to hes ex Filipina girlfriend online who just scammed him before and lied to him…so if he don’t her anymore he should quit or stop talking to him..so i wont get Jelous. and evrytime hes ex message him to ask a question and he response to her message,i ask him” u said wont talk to her again?” then he answered, no i’m not talking to her shes the first message me to ask a question. i only answer her question.so i told him ,okay you aren’t talking to her only typing.then he said also he wont add her ex to hes face book but he did then even her ex mother face book and siblings and relatives he add also.so that time i start crying and was hurt so i started calling him liar. and he said i’m not nice to him all i did is just calling him a liar so now he is cold to me and think i am a bad so he better talk and find other,
even i’m poor also i did my effort to save money to send him give a package in USA since i love him one time happened hes broke even when i am in Philippines i did make a way to help. i did borrow money to my friend and without a doubt sending him the 200 USD. because i trust him before.and i’m sure who ever is her filipina gf right now won’t do same as i do for him.I’M SURE hes new now can only spend time to chat online for him and doing is just talking nice so he will hook up with her and so her goal to make him go with her in philippine ,and i just called him liar and say lots of bad words to him just because i’m hurt and cause he lied to me many times he love chatting to random girls online.and he keep saying not.but i knew he do so not really all Filipina just find foreign just for money we also find someone to be our partner and find someone to love us.some other Filipina do scammed but some of US not Scammer.just only u guys scammed cause u in bad luck to found the wrong ones. because some of you also just want a pretty face and a young ones.
Rich … poor … makes no difference …
BOILS DOWN TO LUCK!!!!
“true love is life’s best treasure.
wealth and fame may pass away,
bring no joy or lasting pleasure.
true love abides all way.
through the world i’ll gladly go,
if one true love i know.”
Fate is the hunter for my holy grail.
sorry
NOT SEEKING SYMPATHY!!!!!
Merely taking out the dirty linens hidden in the cupboard and showing them to the public so those lazy public servants will wash them, so to speak.
“Abuse exists because of secrecy. If I can use this platform and talk about it and break the silence, somebody can get the help and support they need. It’s such a common problem, and it doesn’t need to be. All you have to do is talk about it and break the silence.”
(Chris Witty)
I’m Vania AllĂłn, 25+, Flight Attendant Swiss Airlines. My job is my paradise and I’m estimated of all crew members. I’m often thinking about relationships. I had 2 boyfriends in my life and both cheated me with other girls when I had oversea flights. I’m looking now for a stable friendship with a lady ~ in my age which isn’t only based between my legs.
Regards
Vania, vania.allon@gtmail.com
If you get scammed and the girl has Facebook, you can write to all her friends and tell them she is a scammer, then some of them can perhaps avoid being scammed.
Had an aquintance that was married to a filipina. She and all her relatives saw him as a money machine. When she married him he had a lot of savings. But he was too nice, so all his savings went to her parents, siblings, siblings children, cousins, cousins of the cousins, uncles, aunts and all sorts of relatives. His savings ended and he was forced to work harder and harder to support all those relatives. It all ended with him getting seriously ill (heart problems because of stress) and one day he died. His wife took his heritage and then it was the end of story. So now she has to look for a new provider for her and her greedy relatives.
By the way, why in the first place does westerners go to the Philippines for love and/or sex? What is wrong with western women that the men in their country will not marry them, or have sex with them? Why does these men travel round the whole world to find something they ought to get at home? Very strange phenomena, but also a societal problem. Are western men and western women not compatible with each other?
TO ALL GOOD ASIAN LADIES LOOKING FOR REAL LOVE…..DONT EASILY TRUST ANY FOREIGNERS YOU MET…..MOST ARE JUST LOOKING FOR SEX… A LOT OF THEM A SEX TOURIST….SPECIALLY HERE IN ASIA….SPECIALLY HERE IN THAILAND, A GERMAN GUY NAME MANFRED TROJAN IS A KNOW SEX TOURIST AND HE OWN A LOT OF DATING WEBSITE AND PORNO SITES AS HE IS AN IT EXPERT..DONT BE A VICTIM OF THIS STUPID GERMAN. HE HAD A SERIES A FACIAL CHANGE..THAT HE MANAGE TO TRICK STILL EVERY WOMEN HE MEET LIKE A PROMISE OF HELPING YOUR FAMILY, GIVING U A BUSINESS OR SENDING YOUR SIBLINGS TO SCHOOL, BUT AFTER HE GOT YOUR SEX VIDEO, HE WILL LEFT YOU AND ALAS..HE GOT MONEY FOR YOUR VIDEOS
In Australia, in a relationship, the woman always wins … well, almost always.
The onus is on the man to disprove the woman’s allegations.
Im in the middle of chatting with one of these pinays i met online chat rooms. I could never think i can be a victim of these girls, i always think how stupid to send that much money to someone, its so obvious a scam. but like everyone says, lust love is like some kind of spell. and im fighting it.. the only reason i started talking to one is because my marriage had been rocky the last 5yrs wich ended up in seperation, still married but not acting like it. i havnt had sex in over 2yrs and no emotional love either. so this is me acting out because of that. and when a young pinay starts telling you things i havnt heard in years it feels good., and when they start giving you the attention i cant help but stay in touch. at the same time im telling myself shes just another scammer. theres this fight in my head telling me what if shes real. she tells me alot about herself and im starting to have feelings for her. knowing that shes poor makes me even want to help her. i feel good sending even alittle bit just to hear her say shes thankful shes able to buy grocerys. she even tells me not to send, that its ok. maybe thats one of the lines to make you want even more to send i guess. so in my head im thinking, im not gonna send her no outragous amount, no way. so far she has not come up with some tragic story for money, thats why im confused and fighting this feeling, she seems real, but in back of my mind its a scam, then another thought says, even if a scam, she makes me feel good, maybe im paying for her service at least even if fake, as long its not huge amount.
They all are scammer. Most of them know how to make you feel good and give all the attention you want now. It is part of the scammer make their victim fall in love with them. They make the victim feel sorry for them and willing send money to provide her family . My husband is a victim but he still think he in love with his whore. I found out she talk to lot of older married man in love with them and ask them for money. Smart one don’t send money to her . But my husband don’t think he is a victim and he send her money before he met her . After he met her for six month he went there got engaged with her . And he become her family feeder . Her family even said to me all she does online chat with foreigner to earn money . She never work and has 4 years old daughter . Since my husband met his whore his lost his job and put himself in deep debt . My lawyer has few clients from USA . Same stories divorce the wife and stayed in Philippines with their Filipino online scammer for two years . Took and spend all their money and kick the man out the house . The man broke and lost the job came back to plea the wife for forgiveness . Be faithful with your wife . Water your own lawn make it green. Other side of grass not always green for you . Google it how to save your own marriage instead of blame of your wife not make you happy. Good luck!
not all are scammer! and if anyone believes they are then look somewhere else for love! in every country people will try to do what they can to better their lives even if it means lie cheat steal. some on this site are bitter because they got scammed or bitter because their ex wants someone else or just plain bitter. I myself got taken the first time i met someone online but i don’t blame her I blame myself for not learning enough about online dating and how one can get scammed my next attempts were much more rewarding for me and there were many who tried to scam but many who were genuine but we did not match after months of looking chatting I finally met my wife and after getting to know her I did send her money to pay for our nightly chats in the internet cafe after none months of nightly chats I made the journey over seas to meet her in person she never lied to me nor asked for money that was my decision. we have been married over 2 and a half years now and i have never regretted anything
@ Michelle
Same holds true for any nationality … some, NOT ALL, are scammers.
BEWARE OF PIRANHA WOMEN!!!!!
I’ve been there and lucky I ended it. I was already in a committed relationship which I almost ruined because of a whore in Philippines named Carol Ash. Even when I ended it she took a cheap shot at asking for money because she was pregnant and I was father. She asked me to pay for an abortion and send her money quickly and she will leave me alone forever
Michelle,
Thank you for your advice. Im sorry about the situation that happend to you. Never thought I would allow myself to get into something like this, much less even send a small amount. so far i did both, now im worried it will turn into meeting them, wich right now my feeling for that is its impossible, i cant let that happen. But reading all these comments looks like they somehow hypmotize us to do it. On one hand im believing she is for real, she opened up to me about alot of stuff and even dosnt want me to send money,on the other hand i believe its all scripted lies. She even admit the things shes doing to others just for her babys sake. but she says talking with me is different, says im the only one who dosnt always ask for cyber sex or see her naked, i just talk to her. i dont know, maybe im in denial. and maybe i keep comming up with excuses for her. Anyways im glad there are people like you trying to put some sense back into potential victims. I do wish i can make my marriage work, but seems she made her mind up and not interested anymore. I have low self esteem i dont even want to go out to meet anyone, but doing it this way makes me feel somewhat happy and it lets me look forward to our conversations. i dont know what to think anymore ha.
I’m ready to take the chance again … ready to put my love on the line with one who’s worth all I have … been living with nothing to show for it … you get what you get when you go for it.
Fate is the hunter for my holy grail.đź’‘
http://www.philippine-scammer.com/
They are all scammers! They marry only to support their lazy large filipine family! The foreign husband is just a means to an end to bankrupt him then wait for him to die, or have him Killed for death benefits. I know!
BEWARE OF PIRANHAS!!!!!
“Abuse exists because of secrecy. If I can use this platform and talk about it and break the silence, somebody can get the help and support they need. It’s such a common problem, and it doesn’t need to be. All you have to do is talk about it and break the silence.” — Chris Witty
Via
“The Bible did not arrive by fax from heaven. The Bible is the product of man, my dear. Not of God. The Bible did not fall magically from the clouds. Man created it as a historical record of tumultuous times, and it has evolved through countless translations, additions, and revisions. History has never had a definitive version of the book.”
― Dan Brown, The Da Vinci Code
Juan I would like you talk to my ex. He fall for Filipino scammer that is why he divorce me. He think he in love for the wonderful filipino young girl 28 year old younder than him . He said she believe in God and support his mentally. He been support her family and her kid before his married to her. He won’t even help his own kids here.Â
IN SUMMARY, MY DISPUTE vs MY EX-WIFE INVOLVES 3 OUTSTANDING ISSUES:
1) MY HALF-SHARE OF A $1.2M+ MATRIMONIAL HOME located in 28/81 Bath Road Kareela NSW 2232;…
2) MESNE PROFIT FROM 04 JAN ’98 — THE DAY EX-WIFE THREW ME OUT OF THE MATRIMONIAL HOME;
3) ROBBING THE CHILDREN OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR FATHER … BLIGHTING THEIR LIVES FOREVER!
ROBBING THE CHILDREN OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR FATHER IS A DESPICABLE AND INHUMAN ACT THAT OUGHT TO BE PUNISHABLE BY LAW!
INSTEAD MY EX-WIFE IS REWARDED THE MATRIMONIAL HOME LOCATED IN 28/81 BATH ROAD, KAREELA, NSW, 2232, FOR HER OWN PRIVATE USE.
WHAT KINDA SOCIETY IS THIS? SHAME!!!!!
YES, THE SYSTEM OWES MY CHILDREN FOR CONNIVING WITH MY EX-WIFE IN ROBBING THEM OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR FATHER — A TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE.
The big sign says: PARAMOUNT CONSIDERATION IS ON BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILDREN.
I have no child-abuse conviction!
Ooops! I forgot. Also the punitive damage … compensatory damage … etc … list goes on and on.
I’m a greedy person. I want truckloads of cash to bring into my next life.
🬠🬠🬠🬠đź¬
Anyone know a lawyer who will provide me with FREE legal aid … secure a court order that will guarantee allowing me to live in my $1.2M+ matrimonial home located in 28/81 Bath Road Kareela NSW 2232?
I have no outstanding AVO against me.
đź đź đź đź đź
My ex-wife and I ought to swap places. After all, she’s been having the matrimonial home for her own private use for 20 odd years without paying me rent!
🡠🡠🡠🡠đźˇ
reggie
@ juan
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A school classmate is now Philippine ambassador to Singapore. A long, long story.
1st marriage is imagination triumphs over wisdom; 2nd marriage is hope triumphs over experience.
(Oscar Wilde(?))
For myself, as Barry Manilow sung, “Ready to take the chance again”.
Ex-wife’s hometown is nearby Siquijor Island. Renowned for its gypsies with gold-capped tooth. Must have been given LOVE POTION #9. No wonder, cops hate me.
Read the lyrics on “Love Potion #9”, sung by the Searchers.
“The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.”
(Thomas Jefferson)
What about illegals?????
CORONAVIRUS ARE BREEDING LIKE RABBITS WORLDWIDE!!!!!
ATTENTION! Residents of 81 Bath Road Kareela NSW 2232 townhouse complex,
BE WARNED!!!!!
TRUMP’S CLAMPING DOWN ON ILLEGALS. OVER 1M UNDOCUMENTED FILIPINOS REPORTED.
Must be CORONAVIRUS infected.
Illegals are hiding in my $1.2M+ matrimonial home located in 28/81 Bath Road Kareela NSW 2232.
Yeah, illegals, as tenants will require my approval/signature.
Must be CORONAVIRUS infected.
I have no outstanding AVO against me.
Children are adults and no longer living in the matrimonial home. Last time heard, they were living in Chippendale — COUCHSURFING!
SO CALLOUS OF EX-WIFE!
Blighting the children’s lives forever.
EX-WIFE REFUSES TO SELL THE PROPERTY ON AUCTION!
Instead, she wants to buy my half share for a pittance — $90K.
Ex-wife is renting out the whole place and living in the Philippines where her đź’˛ can go a long way.
💰💲💰💲💰
Ex-wife’s parents are Chinese emigrants to the Philippines. Would’ve friends and relatives keen on buying my share at a steal.
🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
But authorities won’t dare conduct investigations … scared of either backlash from FEMINIST groups or CORONAVIRUS infection.
LONG LIVE FEMINISM!
đźˇđź đźˇđź đźˇ
ATTENTION DADS IN DISTRESS!
BEWARE OF PIRANHAS!!!!!
đź‘ąđź‘şđź‘ąđź‘şđź‘ą
WHY MARRY A MUCH YOUNGER GIRL?
At puberty, the girl’s reproduction system is still developing … not a good idea to rupture the hymen. Like plucking an UNRIPE CHERRY. Wait until she’s 16, and the cherry is completely ripe … hence the term sweet 16.
Yep, gotta wait until 16+. Note that as the girl grows older, there’s a risk of having babies with Down syndrome. WARNED!!!!!
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS The Dallas Morning News
Published: 11 June 2012 06:39 PM
NEW YORK — Finally, some good news for older dads. A new study hints that their children and even their grandchildren may get a health benefit because of their older age.
It’s based on research into something called telomeres – tips on the ends of chromosomes.
Some previous studies have associated having longer telomeres (TEE-loh-meers) with better health and longer lives. Telomeres haven’t been proven to cause those benefits in the general population, but a number of researchers think they may hold secrets for things like longevity and cancer.
As you age, telomeres shorten. However, previous studies have shown that the older a man is when he becomes a father, the longer the telomeres his children tend to have. The new research confirms that and finds it’s extended to the grandchildren.
That’s a cheerier result for older dads than some other studies in recent years that indicate their kids are at heightened risk for things like autism, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.
The new work didn’t look at health outcomes. That’s a future step, said researcher Dan T.A. Eisenberg of Northwestern University. He presents the results with colleagues in Monday’s issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Carol Greider of Johns Hopkins University, who shared a Nobel Prize in 2009 for telomere research but who didn’t participate in the new study, said it’s no surprise that the telomere effect would extend beyond children to grandchildren.
She cautioned that since older fathers also tend to pass more potentially harmful genetic mutations, it’s “not at all clear” whether advanced paternal age gives an overall health benefit to children. In a statement, the Northwestern researchers said their study shouldn’t be taken as a recommendation that men reproduce at older ages, because there’s a risk of mutations.
The researchers’ work involved an analysis of telomeres in blood samples from a large, multigenerational study in the Philippines.
One analysis of about 2,000 people confirmed the idea that the older your dad was when you were born, the longer your telomeres tend to be. That held true throughout the age range of the fathers, who were 15 to 43 at the time their sons or daughters were born.
Researchers then extended that another generation: The older your father’s father was when your father was born, the longer your telomeres tend to be. That analysis included 234 grandchildren. A separate analysis found no significant effect from the mother’s father.
The telomere contribution from a grandfather adds to the one from the father, researchers found.
Some previous studies of the impact of older fatherhood have been less encouraging. In 2010, for example, at least two big studies confirmed a link to having children with autism, with one finding that a father’s age makes the biggest difference when the mother is young. In 2008, a big Swedish study strengthened evidence linking bipolar disorder to older paternal ages, although researchers said the risk was still so low that it shouldn’t discourage older men from having
children.
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The Telegraph By Murray Wardrop 7:31AM BST 02 Jun 2009
Men are likely to live longer if they marry a younger woman, new research suggests.
A man’s chances of dying early are cut by a fifth if their bride is between 15 and 17 years their junior.
The risk of premature death is reduced by 11 per cent if they marry a woman seven to nine years younger.
The study at Germany’s Max Planck Institute also found that men marrying older women are more likely to die early. The results suggest that women do not experience the same benefits of marrying a toy boy or a sugar daddy. Wives with husbands older or younger by between seven and nine years increase their chances of dying early by 20 per cent. This rises to 30 per cent if the age difference is close to 15 and 17 years.
Scientists say the figures for men may be the result of natural selection – that only the healthiest, most successful older men are able to attract younger mates.
“Another theory is that a younger woman will care for a man better and therefore he will live longer,” said institute spokesman Sven Drefahl.
The study examined deaths between 1990 and 2005 for the entire population of Denmark.
On average in Europe, most men marry women around three years younger.
Just continuing my random notes …
For healthier and longer-living offspring, IDEALLY, my sexually partner must be sweet 16.
What else? I have 3 kidneys … one imported … 2 locals. The imported one serves as a turbo-booster for my savage thrust. Gives me that long-lasting endurance for my sexual prowess and stamina … hyper sex-energizer. Etc., etc.
It’s written in medical textbooks. The moral is, to optimize your sexual performance, get a renal transplant. Doesn’t work for women, though … ALAS!
Hence, she must be tough enough to absorb punishment. BDSM is my favourite.
khin Sullivan
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Not always the case. My ex-wife belongs to the Navera clan … the richest in nearby Siquijor Island.
Because I was a hi-income earner (many IT professionals were), her siblings had countless â€brilliant’ business proposals to invest my money to maximize return.
Flatly refused. Told her that, if they have confidence, they can borrow from financial institutions using their properties as collateral. Later, when their venture is thriving, I will only be to eager lend them.
As mathematicians say, “The number of possibilities is infinite”.